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Posted: 7 years ago

Lashy - A beautiful edit of our loving leads. The first impression that brought to my mind was where you had left us gaping at the pair after his love confession uttered in two ... well three words including her name.

Her hazel eyes with partial sight which are his gateway to her soul is holding him captive here. The key to their locked eyes are lost in their gaze. Unknown to them her hands are hugging his waist & his are rubbing her cheeks. Their breaths are held still. But the raw emotions that their eyes emote here is priceless.

Those long black tresses & drawn out veil brings out Heera's beauty to the forefront to him.
She appears to be sure that there is no armor he holds against her anymore except what he is wearing.

The light outside symbolizes & beckons him to the hard tasks awaiting his duty.
The darkness inside though for him is illuminated by her presence.
His dilemma is pathetic. He knows he has to go. But how can he refute those hazel eyes & the invitation of her open lips.

Lashy - Thanks for this ravishing picture 😳👏😊



I was re-reading one of your very early chapters & in the below scenario where Heera teasingly let's her friends know her hearts desires. Not all of what she had wanted or imagined has come true. Instead it's a complete turn around of whom she has lost her heart to. What an effect AMK has had on this choti baisa that she completely flipped on her wants.

Copying it below to share with all the B&B's.

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Wrapping her palms around her knees, she began singing 'Alright... I have a confession to make... I did dream of someone, lately...' now that she'd taken everyone by complete surprise, she stopped her song, all of a sudden

'You dreamt of someone and you haven't spoken of it for so long?'

'Tell us about him... please baisa...'

'Was he tall?'

'How did his voice sound?'

'What about his colour? Was he fair? Or, dark?'

'Which state did he belong to?' Was he a prince or a soldier?'

'Hmmm...' she pretended to muse, and then did nothing but blink her eyelashes flirtatiously - testing the limits of their patience as she did so

'You've hummed and hawed enough, baisa...'

'Stop tormenting us this way...'

'Oh my...' the heiress broke out into a lengthy fit of chuckles

And just as they were about to give up on their quest, she decided to give in to the lovably-sullen faces of her maids - young ladies who were more 'friends' to her than they ever were 'maids'

'The man who came in my dreams was a gentleman...' the heiress paused, waiting for them to react

'Oh...'

'A refined gentleman... who knew how to treat everyone with kindness...'

'Really?'

'And...'

'He had a large family' she spread her palms out, relishing the thought. Growing up without an extended - or even an immediate family - had made her crave for the presence of a busy household more than most 'Lots of sisters and brothers to interact with... and even cousins, nieces and nephews to dote upon!'

'All right...'

'And then... what else?'

'What about his face?'

She bit the insides of her lip, aware of precisely what they were waiting for 'His smiles were so warm, they lit up my world...'

'Oh...' the enthralled audience remarked in unison. By this point, the ladies were listening so intently that they had lost sense of place and time. Even the pesky twilight insects hovering around their ears had stopped bothering them.

'And what about his looks?'

'Tell us more...'

'How should I know? I didn't see his face!'

The very next instant, her fit of chuckles resurfaced

'Choti Baisa...' they moaned and groaned, slumping their shoulders as they realised she'd been taking them for a ride. Nevertheless; they loved her for it and hoped she would soon find her man - a man as good as their older heiress had found.

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Vmanoh


Selvi - lovely tropical treat Hope they also make you feel better soon.

Lana - Wonderful as always 👏

unable to shake off its gala charms the clouds stand still

watching over natures drawing come to life by it's magic quill

Sandy beach decked with swaying palms a tranquilizing treat

Oceans blue water sends an invitation to enjoy it's quite retreat

Rugged mountains that dwell amidst the tropical sea so calm

Watches green waves rolling to rub the sand with it's magic balm



Vatshy, spectacular as always! 👏👍🏼

To rub the sand with its magic balm are the splashing waves,
Incessant retreating and forwarding in a rhythmic motion, raves!
The line of coconut trees stands high and tall on the white sands,
Beach chairs to rest and relax satisfy all the tourist's demands!
The wild blue yonder is donning the Sun's bright sparkly beam,
The hills form a cove on the sea giving a look of a tropical dream!
Greenish blue water beckons the mind to a vast Euphoric state,
We see a paradise of sublime beauty that nothing can equate!
Edited by lghosh - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

Reserved for reply 😳


Lashy = Thanks for this post. When you did a very short response I thought it was because you were busy getting the teaser ready as I mentioned earlier. So your gesture did take me by surprise.😳 But I would really love to see if time permits from you is your Bold / underlines of the portions that resonated for you.

Reading through the posts of all the effort you had put to get the new banner picture afloat shows your dedication to your creation. We really appreciate that . 👏👏👏

Good Night !!!
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


The first lines that came to my mind were from the song Chaudhvin ka chaand ho...

Zulfein hain jaise kaandhon pe baadal jhuke hue
Aankhein hain jaise maey ke pyaale bhare hue
Jaan-e-bahaar tum kisi shaayar ka khwaab ho...

>>>❤️


i better run away before Lana borrows Kuki's axe.😲
>>>😆

Originally posted by: --cute.manasi--



Hazaaron khwahishen aisi ke har khwahish pe dam nikle
Bohat niklay mere armaan, lekin phir bhi kam nikle

(Thousands of desires, each worth dying for...
many of them I have realized...yet I yearn for more...)


Lovely
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Posted: 7 years ago



Mohabbat me nahi hai farq jeene aur marne ka
Usi ko dekh kar jeete hai, jis kaafir pe dam nikle
( When in love, there is no difference between life and death
we live by looking at the infidel who we are willing to die for)
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Posted: 7 years ago
Copy paste frm our antakshri thread i hope u all find this article interesting..

An insightful article by SOHINI GOSH in THE WIRE on padamvati controversy...

What Gulzar's Meera' Has to Say to Those Opposing Padmavati'

https://thewire.in/210724/gulzars-meera-say-opposing-padmavati/#disqus_thread

Copy of article text..

The legend of Mirabai, like that of Padmavati/Padmini, stands on the cusp of history and mythology, and seems to speak to our present historical moment.
Deepika Padukone as Padmavati.
Deepika Padukone as Padmavati.

Padmavati now Padmavat by the decree of the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) continues to be held hostage by competing claims of authenticity'. No sooner had the CBFC agreed to certify it in exchange for five "modifications, a member of the Mewar Royal family has threatened "social unrest if the film is released because it "misrepresents revered heroic characters. The Rajput Karni Sena has carried out its savage agenda on similar and other absurd grounds. Even the more reasonable Amarinder Singh, who condemned the violence against the film, stated that nobody had the right to "distort history and that "cinematic license does not give anyone the right to twist historical facts. If films are discredited on the basis of this seemingly reasonable statement, then the history of world cinema would have to expunge some of its best films. Let me test the usefulness of the authenticity' claim by revisiting Gulzar's Meera (1979) about Mirabai, the 15th/16th century Krishna devotee and mystic saint. I take this example not only because the legend of Mirabai, like that of Padmavati/Padmini, stands on the cusp of history and mythology, but also because the film seems to speak to our present historical moment.

Meera is set against the fratricidal wars of the many Rajput kingdoms and Emperor Akbar's ascent to power. The warring Rajputs are in a dilemma. Should they ally with Akbar or should they unite to oust him? When Akbar (Amjad Khan) is introduced, he has called for a temporary truce with the Rajput kings in order to celebrate Holi and the birth of his son. Akbar is delighted at having received gifts and greetings from "all corners of Hindustan, whose imagined contours are different from that of present-day India. Therefore, the gift of hing (asafoetida) a condiment that Akbar likes his lentils flavoured with has come from Kabul. He is happy that people are beginning to realise that he is "Hindustani and not an invader from Samarkand. After all, his forefathers lay buried in this land and his son had Rajput blood flowing through his veins. But not all are ready to accept him. Rana Vikramjit Singh Sisodia (Shammi Kapoor) sends Akbar a snake-charmer's flute to welcome the off-spring of an implied viper, while the Shia community sends him sandalwood paste, cymbals and a sacred thread to express their displeasure at his proximity with Hindus.

In order to unite the Rajputs against Akbar, Raja Virendev (Shreeram Lagoo) offers his daughter Krishna (Vidya Sinha) in marriage to the family of his longstanding enemy Rana Vikramjit. But this only aggravates conflict because his son Jaimal (Dinesh Thakur) has already arranged her marriage to a Rajput family in Ajmer. Consequently, both Rajput families laying siege to Virendev's fort staking a claim to Krishna. To save family honour, Virendev asks his daughter to kill herself after which their younger daughter, Meera (Hema Malini) is offered in marriage to Vikrmanjit's younger brother Rana Bhojraj (Vinod Khanna)

Meera is a reluctant and unusual bride. Her mother worries that she is more jogan than a princess. A fervent devotee of Lord Krishna, Meera considers herself married to him. She writes poetry and composes songs about her love and longing for Krishna. When on their wedding night, she tells Bhojraj that she is already married to Krishna, he laughs good-naturedly. But soon tensions begin to surface. When the newlywed Meera prepares the traditional bahu bhoj (feast cooked by the new bride), she breaches family tradition by refusing to cook the meat of the sacrificial animal. The Khsahatriya Sisodias are Durga and Kali worshippers for whom sacrificial meat is sacred mahaprasad. The royal priest engages her in debate only to rue his decision. Meera is articulate, knowledgeable and fearless in speech. She informs him that as a devotee of the makhan chor (butter thief), she knows nothing about sacrificial meat. The priest reminds her that Rajputs are warriors entrusted with defending the nation therefore butter would only make them weak. Meera reminds him that it was the same makhan chor who gave strength to Arjun in the battlefield of Kurukshetra. The priest asks: "Why then do you oppose the offering of the swords? Meera replies: "Because weapons should be used against the enemy in a battlefield, not against mute, helpless animals tied to a stake. That is not valour but cowardice. The priest storms out regretting his decision to argue with a woman. The literal-minded vegetarian vigilante might read into Meera's words and actions an endorsement for vegetarianism, but only to be disappointed. Meera values nothing more than personal freedom. For her, spiritual liberation lies in following a path that one has voluntarily chosen, not one that has been imposed by tradition.

As the distraught but compassionate Bhojraj looks on, Meera breaks one family tradition after another. She leaves the palace as she pleases, worships Krishna in a small and neglected shrine, sings and dances in gay abandon with other devotees and becomes a disciple of Sant Raidas, a low-caste cobbler. When the outraged royal priest tells her that she should only consider her pati (husband) to be her parameshwar (god), she replies that only parameshwar was her pati. As chastisement, Meera is sent back to her maternal home from where she is turned out by her brother. Having lost both families, Meera is liberated. She sings and dances with ever-multiplying crowds of ardent devotees
One day, Akbar asks Tansen (Bharat Bhushan) whether in Hindustan there was another voice that could match his own. Tansen takes him to hear Meera sing at a Krishna temple. As devotees dance to Meera's bhajan, Tansen and Akbar take their place on the steps of the temple. Akbar is dressed as a commoner so as not to be recognised. The two are mesmerised by Meera's bhajan. Tansen is so moved that he joins her in singing. Meera recognises the voice. When the bhajan ends, a conversation ensues:

Meera (looking at Tansen): "This voice of love and prayer why have you caged it in the court of the Emperor? There is no voice like yours in the country. I cannot mistake it.

Tansen (glancing in embarrassment at Akbar); "The emperor has honoured me by making me a part of his court...

Meera: "The honour would have been greater if the emperor had left the court and joined you in your prayer. Tell your Emperor that voices can be bought but not Allah.

Tansen: "You will not be able to say that about my Emperor...

Meera: "I am very aware that I am saying all this in his presence.

Akbar: "Subhanallah! Subhanalah. Please accept this gift from us

(He offers her a pearl necklace).

Meera: "There you go again... offering remuneration...

Akbar: This is not remuneration but a gift. Please adorn the deity in the temple with this.

A smiling Meera accepts the gift with folded hands.


For Rana Vikramjt, Meera's acceptance of Akbar's gift is the ultimate act of treachery. He imprisons her and produces her before a dharm adalat (religious court) for a public trial to be conducted by the royal priest. The allegations against Meera are read out in court. The charges include her refusal to adopt her husband's religion, her forging of relations with other men, befriending people from lower-castes, spending nights away from her husband's house and for accepting someone other than Bhojraj as her husband. As the charges are formally presented to her, Meera responds through poetry, with lines from her bhajans. The royal priest thunders: "Have you no responsibility towards your family that feeds and clothes you? With calm fortitude she declares: "Today, this very instant, I give up my family and this society.

The riveting exchange of words in this extended sequence culminates with Meera responding to charges of treason.

Priest: "You are accused of being a traitor (deshdrohi). You accepted a gift from Emperor Akbar, the country's sworn enemy.

Meera: "I have no enemies.

Priest: "Isn't the enemy of your country, your enemy?

Meera: "For you, your country is limited to only where your power ends...I do not accept your parameters to be my country.


As the trial comes to a close, Meera's calm is undisturbed. She tells the royal priest: "We both know what the punishment will be. I free you from the sin of killing me. Meera gets the death penalty. She will have to die by drinking poison from a bowl in the court. The verdict of the dharm adalat finds little support among the spectators. People begin to cry. Even Raja Vikramjit pleads for her life. The royal priest agrees to forgive her but only if she apologises and accepts her husband's religion. Meera remains silent. A distraught Bhojraj makes a last attempt. He begs her to apologise. Meera tells him gently: "Just as one never calls back a warrior on the way to the battlefront, don't call me back. I am walking the path of my truth. Meera drinks the poison and returns the bowl back to the man who handed it to her. His hands shake. The bowl drops and falls with a resounding clatter. In the next sequence, Meera sings her way to the derelict Krishna shrine. Multitudes of people follow her. As she enters the abandoned Krishna temple, they wait outside. Only Bhojraj's sister follows her in but Meera is gone. At the feet of the deity lies her ektara and in another corner, her book of poems. As the bhajan plays over the soundtrack, the undulating desert sands bear the imprint of Meera's footsteps.

The entire sequence of events recounted in Meera does not stand up to any authenticity' test or historical scrutiny. Mirabai is one of the most celebrated figures of the Bhakti movement but the facts about her childhood, marriage, subsequent life and death are deeply contended by historians. Of the thousands of bhajans attributed to Mirabai, only a few hundred were authored by her. The rest were composed by her followers. Apart from Krishna-bhakti, Mirabai's musical legacy bears testimony to her rejecting the institutions of marriage and family. He rebellion against the oppression of women and the lower castes continue to inspire people of many faiths and none. Yet, no definitive reconstruction of Meera's life is possible because the scattered historical references are enmeshed in legends and folklore. Mirabai, for instance, did not live during the reign of Akbar but possibly during the time of Babur. But the story of her encounter with Akbar and Tansen is so popular that it became an integral part of the legend. It finds a place in Gulzar's film as well as in Ellis. R. Dungan's Tamil Meera in 1945 and its Hindi remake in 1947. Starring M.S. Subbulakshmi, both films are classics in the history of Indian cinema. Little is known of Mirabai's death. According to legend, she merged with the Krishna idol at the Dwarka temple. Was she killed by the Rana's emissaries? Did she end her own life? Or did she, as one scholar suggests, escape through a door in the temple to live among other devotees? What remains undisputed though is that her adversaries which include communities that continue to denigrate her as a promiscuous and disreputable woman have failed to extinguish the legend of Mirabai.

Today, a vocal alliance of groups and individuals are using the authenticity' argument to suppress Padmavati. What they really fear is not misrepresentation' but an unconventional representation because the legend itself is full of intangible provocations and possibilities. One of the five changes demanded by the CBFC includes modifying the song Ghoomar' to make the "depiction befitting the character being portrayed which is a direct response to Rajput groups raising objections to a woman of the royal family dancing in public. Was this not what the dharm-adalat had held Meera to be guilty of?

Whatever the immediate fate of the film, the eventual defeat of its detractors is assured. Like creative imagination, legends are impossible to control.

Shohini Ghosh is professor at the AJK Mass Communication Research Centre, Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi..

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: lghosh


Rose! 🤗 You know you have an excellent memory!! 👍🏼 You remember everything about every Sahibas here! 👏 Wish I had such a 'badami' memory but apparently I don't!! 🤔 And yes, you are right I simply kept staring at the picture for 10 minutes though I have seen such a scene live innumerable times but that sea-green colour always gets me!! Loved it! 😃


Excellent memory , I am not sure, Lana but it served me well in this instance. 😉But Lana, your memory is top-notch, too, especially when it is related to Kuki's affairs.😆

Lana, Vathsy- are we to be mesmerized by the visual paradise or your magical lines, Sahibas?

Totally charmed, ladies! 👏 👏 👏



Originally posted by: --cute.manasi--


it happens rose di , when logged in from mobile avatar pics do not appear only signatures r viewable !

while from lappy i could not see lashy di & lana di's dp...😔


Thanks Manu dear for explaining it to me. 🤗Some ( actually most 😆 ) computer-related things are beyond me. 😭

Lashy Sahiba, not even a greeting from you today.😭 If you are busy, we understand , but we would have loved at least a 'hola' from you, dear author. 🤗
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Posted: 7 years ago

Jiya, thank you so much for posting Shohini Ghosh's article. Having heard of but not knowing much about the legendary Mirabai, this article came as an eye-opener for me. Enjoyed reading it immensely. 👏

Waiting to see the fate of Padmawati. 😊

The poetic lines👍🏼

Periyamma still up? Almost 12.30 a.m.😲

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: --cute.manasi--

Pics that lavanya di shared from her jaipur trip...😃


Sheesh Mahal at Amber Fort



Chaar Bagh at Amber Fort



Jain Temple at Sanganer fort



Hawa Mahel lit up at Night



Albert Muesuem at Night



Step Well at Abhaneri




Beautiful pics⭐️ ,Lavanya di and thanks for the additional information😃
Thanks Manu di for sharing🤗 them and Sandy di for explaining the stair well😃
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Posted: 7 years ago
Lashy, hope you are not seriously spending 20-30 hrs editing Khan Sahib's expressions.😒 We were both just jabbering rattling like Kalgiakka.😆
Where art thou?😔

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