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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">There were a few undercurrents in the Chapter that stood out lending it credibility and subtlety, sheen and strength...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">AMK's change of heart...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Choices in life are easier to make when they are between the good and the bad But when one has to choose between two goods or two dear ones, it becomes the toughest internal battle, a moral dilemma that clouds ones thoughts and impedes the decisiveness of even the best minds. AMK was exactly in one such predicament, where he had to choose between the man who lended a helping hand when Akbar's life was in the nadir, who recognized and sharpened his talents and shared a mutual respect trust and friendship with him and the woman who brought sunshine in his life. Ultimately the balance tilted in favour of his mentor and AMK placed loyalty above love. And he decided to rob her of the farmaan and hand it over to the Shehzaade in all sincerity and hoped to compensate her and her people with other means.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">In the previous chapter i had said that</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">The Bansi Royals have turned away a daughter who loved them whole heartedly and the Shehzaade has risked the unwavering dedication of his most sincere loyal.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">And that</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">AMK will now find that the Shehzade for whom he chose to overlook his heart, has chosen to overlook his loyalty.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">
</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">This was the clincher that lent clarity to his thoughts...the tiny crack in trust, the breach of faith that merited similar reciprocation. The scales then tilted in her favour. The Shehzaade had wronged Akbar and Heera was wronged BY Akbar in his quest for his master. That gave AMK the impetus to invite the Shehzade's displeasure for the sake of her welfare. I might have respected Akbar less had he crossed the line to her side for a lesser reason. Excellent authoress...👏</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">2.Farmaan for a farmaan...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Trust is like a pristine glass, that has to be handled with care</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">For even if you mend it if broken, the cracks are always there..</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">The Shehzaade in his haste to make use of a conducive political scenario, chose to overlook his most trusted Officer's authorities and gave an upper hand to the very man whom Akbar wanted to keep off from the assignment. And dented Akbar's pride and faith. Akbar had in exchange of the farmaan just wanted a promise in return...to be able to do his best compensation to the people of the place he had betrayed to his master. But having seen him go back on his earlier promise due to changed circumstances wouldn't be satisfied with a mere promise. He wanted it in writing and with official authority and powers and position. His every word since then was to extract the same from the Shehzade. He used every art and cunning he possessed...appeared to have liked Parnagarh for the valleys, for the men, for his horses,...reminded him of his promise...provoked him if he had the authority to grant such a farmaan as he demanded...worded his demand as a promotion which even Shehzade had to admit that Akbar was the most deserving of one, and reminded him of the family protection clause AFTER the farmaan was recieved. </font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">3. The ordinary card...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">AMK was a baazigar according to how SRK defined him in the movie. Everything was down when he reached the capital. Heera was engaged to a Rajvanshi prince, he was betraying her trust and the trust of her people, Khalil was authorised to deal with Parnagarh in his own way, Shehzade was not willing to stop him, Heera was in danger, and with racing thoughts and lighting quick decisions, AMK worked out a quick solution to ALL the problems with one stroke and executed it with elan. The importance of the farmaan was diluted with the changed circumstances, it was no longer the trump card of the Parnagarh politics. But Akbar used it to his best advantage - to fill in Shehzade with a sense of guilt for not believing him. His dramatically producing the farmaan with a 'Have i ever let you down Huzoor?' The farmaan was also a reminder of Akbar's talents and resourcefulness, that he could find the real one without any damage or uproar where Khalil could only obtain a fake with all the furore. And he retained poise and calm till it was authenticated and celebrated before he asked for a return gift. That was a great player in action.👏</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">4.The farmaan's purpose...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Durga and Heera had strived to save the farmaan as it was a proof of the permanent Mansabdari of their family, a viraasat to sons and daughters alike. Now though Akbar had taken away the farmaan from Heera, it would be returned to her with similar effect with the new farmaan. As a Mansabdar's wife if not a Mansabdar's daughter and it would pass on to her heirs. They would come under the sovereignty of the Shahenshah/Shehzade anyway.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">5. Safe with me, not away from me...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">The main reason Akbar had chosen to stay off Heera was to protect her and her interests. If he married her, she would be shunned by her relatives and community. The Shehzade might question his loyalty as the farmaan was not found yet then. He would be at crossroads between Shehzade's purposes and hers. But now she was already disowned by her people. The farmaan was found and handed over to the Shehzaade and none can question his loyalty. And the Mansabdari would give him scope to satisfy both their purposes. Akbar's solution was what was best under the circumstances. But now that Heera is safest as his wife, he wasted no time in declaring her as his bride and future family.😳</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">6. The devious prince...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">What made the chapter more interesting was the the Prince was equally cunning and clever. It was a battle among equals. Evenly poised that makes victory more satisfying. Both could read between lines, bore into each other trying to decipher each other's intent and are honest with each other, atleast so far. The prince did not mislead AMK with false information nor did Akbar. But perhaps the Prince had never been made to do something by someone else. He could not refuse Akbar what he asked for as</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">- he had just wronged Akbar and was feeling guilty,</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">- He knew what Akbar asked was within the limits of reasonable demands,</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">- He knew that Akbar and his loyalty deserved any number of promotions and</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">- He had made a promise and was reminded of it.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Had he granted the Mansabdari on his own volition, it would have been different. But Akbar had extracted it from him which might have wounded his pride. Wonder how he would retaliate. But the talented and equal master of the game he himself was, he could not but temporarily appreciate Akbar's tactics.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">7. Akbar's pride...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Hemay be a recluse with simple tastes. But his pride is very strong. One stagger of trust and things are the same no more. He hated the very name of the man who was supposed to marry his sweetheart. And felt immense relief and unbridled joy when he heard that the lady had risked everything she had and turned that man down perhaps for his sake. This even when he didn't know that her erstwhile betrothed was a swine.( I can hear Lashy say...phir se shuru ho gayi...😆) Perhaps Akbar's speciality was not that he had no pride, no ego, no weaknesses, or no fears, but that he had all of these but knew how to control and overcome them. That is the mark of a hero.👍🏼</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">P.S: Like many others i am also waiting to see Mahendar's reaction when he learns that Heera has got the man of her choice AND Parnagarh.😈😈</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Mansabdars</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Ok... Mansabdari/Jagirdari system is an extremely complex system... and when Akbar started it off there were about
8000 Mansabdars (went up to approx 15,000 by end of Aurangazeb's reign) - with 66 ranks...
so, I'll give a basic gist... also there are differences/exceptions in many cases...I only used those parts of it that'll be helpful for my story...</font></p><p><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">So, please don't use this as reference, just a general explanation...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Mansabdar
just means officer - can be civil (like Heera's father was) or Military (like
AMK shall be)</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">I'll describe the military based Mansabars</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Military
Mansabdars (most common type) - maintained a portion of men for army. They also
collected tax & handed it to Emperor.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Lowest
ranking Mansabdars took care of about 10 horsemen. Highest ranking about 10,000.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">2500 horsemen and above were called Amirs.</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">The higher
Mansabdari (5000 horsemen and above) were only granted to royals and their aristocratic
relatives.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"></font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Now
Mansabdars needed a large place to hold/take care of/maintain these men. So, apart from
the salaries they received, they were also given land grants/lands (jagirs). Generally,
Mansabdars were not in charge of administration of the lands - the land was only meant as a revenue to maintain the army men. (Jagirdars used to collect tax hand it to Mansabdars.. in some cases, Jagirdars and Mansabdars were the same, in some places they were different etc etc)</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"></font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">In order
to make sure that these Mansabdars didn't act like Lord of the Land' Akbar was
very clever and ensured that these Mansabdars were transferred every three
years (much like how Govt/bank officers are transferred today so they don't
become Lord and Boss of their departments) Also, their positions/salaries/Mansabdari
wealth etc was not hereditary - to help keep corruption to a minimum.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"></font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">However, in
special cases, exceptions were made. And sometimes, the lands were granted to the Mansabdar as a permanent holding - Watan jagir/homeland jagir it was called. Watan Jagirswere hereditary and non-transferable.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Again there were different cases of Watan Jagirs too. Most common example was where ancestral
property was permanently given to family (like in Heera's case). Sometimes, for a particularly favourite Mansabdar, the land could be permanently granted in his care and remained with his family after his demise. (Which automatically meant the family were being cared for even after the demise of the Mansabdar). </font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Now THIS is the
clause/term AMK was referring to when he said a Special Mansabdar, but permanently
posted at Parnagarh (I would have to go into ALL these details of the Mughal
administration system... if I had to describe it - so kept it simple)</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Anyway, by the time of Aurangazeb's era, the Mansabdari system had become a corrupt system.. there were different officers, different parts of the country, using these laws to their advantage...</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">and Akbar basically did something like this...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Footnote</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Akbar was
the architect of the Mansabdari system.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">It was an
amazing system started by Akbar... but as the years went on, it fell apart...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">There were
many clauses to ensure it remained smooth - for e.g. that the Mansabdars didn't ill-treat the people they
were in charge of (like peasants couldn't be overtaxed during famine etc) but
many didn't pay heed to it.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Corrupt
Mansabdars used to hand in their record-books saying they were taking care of
thousands of army men, and receive high salaries in return, when in reality
they would only maintain hundreds.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">And whenever
there used to be an inspection, they would round up barbers/slaves/farmers etc
dress them up like soldiers and present them to the inspector. (Even Akbar has
mentioned how he saw this happening, but was unable to come up with proper solution to do away with this practise)</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">As time
went by, they started catering to their own families. Even if Mansabdari system
was not hereditary, a Mansabdar's son would somehow get a lot of advantage and get easy promotions to high ranking Mansab...</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">AMK was at a time, where he saw nobles taking advantage of the system day in day out. When the circumstances were bad, he also took advantage of the system, like the other officers of his time... to save the lady of his life.😊</font>
@Bindu
Beautiful review, darling!👏Akbar stole the show in this update.But,Heera-Gauri scene was actually very very touching and a significant one. I loved ur views on Gauri and Heera!😃
Originally posted by: karkuzhali
"Festival offerSweeter than the sweet PongalChapter twenty Five!Periyamma.
OMG Chellam what a mind game you're plotting. I'm so so impressed with the current plots. OMG it's so enthralling. What are you eating to develop this kinds of cunning plots. Yup we all saved because of Periamma's forewarning. I've fastened the belt so tightly so that I'm out of falling down or sudden jerks. Brilliant Chellam. Loved it soo soo much.
I'm just loss of words. Nothing on mind. I'm just impressed a sly grim permanently pasted in my face as Prince impressed with our beloved Akbar. You still remember my ultra squeezing hug right? Because I'm giving you that now even tighter than it appeared. 🤗Both Heera confession to her friend and Akbar confession to his mentor. So touching. I admire Gauri.. she's worrying for her friend though they're not sure about their future.😭 When Heera saying 'for that I've to alive long', truly it tugged my heart so hard. And surprisingly this time I'm impressed by Prince too. I really like him today. 😳Now breathlessly waiting for our Damakka AmK in action. and thank you so much for this ssaravedi pongal treat. Dandanakka Nakka Nakka Nakka Dandanakka Nakka!
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