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Posted: 9 years ago
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Harshu not got time today, i will post tomorrow.
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Wonderful detail update Harshu⭐️ The dialogues you selected are best ones, you can add the "ghrina" one also😆😆

Jalal threatens the Hakima and asks her why did she say Jodha is pregnant when he did not touch her and he suspected her but she stood up for herself and confronted back to him, he saw that her eyes and heart spoke the truth. Because of her alleged judgment, Jodha's life is in mess and he is lying around to hide the whole thing. Hakima then says its possible someone gave Jodha herbs which give this kind of effect and recites past incident about a MIL hating her DIL. Shehenshah has many enemies so any on them may be Jodha the herbs. Jalal asks how to verify it and stop it. Hakima gives a herb and tells that if Jodha isnt pregnant then she would vomit out blue🤣 🤣 . Ekta and her colorful vomits.🤣🤣 Salima decides to give it to Jodha.


Here Jalal showed his concern for Jodha's honor and Salima supported him. His anger towards Hakima was high since he told her he would chop off her head.

Distrusting Jodha, Hamida as marium makani wants to know who is the father of baby, as Jalal did not touch her. She committed a serious offense and will have to leave mughal sultanate and go away. She will tell the world that Jodha died. Hearing all this Jodha is tearful and heartbroken, whimpers "aamijan" she had thought in agra, she was the only one who understood her completely but alas thats not so but Hamida is in no mood to listen and tells her Jalal would not lie about this. Maham is elated and almost jumping.

In the nick of time, Jalal arrives and looking on the ground, tells Hamida she is wrong and he had infact spend night with Jodha. He was in doubt whether a woman can become pregnant just by spending one night. Jodha, Hamida are shocked and at this Maham alleges that Jalal is trying to protect Jodha. Jodha is angry and informs that she hates the moment her hand was given to him in marriage, she hates the time when he took undue advantage of her, she hates the unborn child. Jalal now says that he just wanted to know whether Jodha had relations with anyone else so he raised his doubt. He wanted to be sure that the baby is his. Hamida gets furious that he mocked the relations and made her doubt Jodha and ask her painful ques. Hamida gets very angry and tells him he has let down the mughal takht and he should leave before she insults the shehenshah. Hamida then apologies to Jodha and Maham is annoyed as her evil plan failed😆😆😆

The whole scene showed the toughness needed by Jalal to take the blame on himself so as to protect Jodha. And Jodha bearing all the brunt earlier and pain of knowing his reason.


Ruq_Jalal scene just showed the haughty nature of Ruq, who is unsupportive but wanted to take adv of situation so she wants to know about the issue but Jalal was cool and calculative who simply told Ruq that he is investigating the matter.

Salima comes to meet Jodha to give her the herb mixed in rose drink and next wait for the result😆 Rahim is playing with Salima and gives her false medicine since she had vomited, Ruq who has come to meet her, taunts that in harem, begums are showing such symptoms like Jodha has. Salima wards it off and tells her it does not suit her royal blood to say it for another royal blood. But Ruq is Ruq- haughty.


Jalal is near tarazu, thinking about the truth and he is restless to know the result of the herb on Jodha. And there comes Jodha full angry mode and tells him that she did not come to argue about his changing decision but just to tell him that she hates him (ghrina karte hai).
Jalal quietly listens to her and next keeps the ring on the balance and another ring on the other side. He says that he had to lie to save her and he accepts her hatred. Ishq hai woh ahsaas plays. Perhaps indicating changing heart/feelings of Jalal for Jodha.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks Harshu for the awesome update. 😊

A lot have been said about HB already so I would not bother with her but contrary to the belief that she was inconsistent in her actions I would say she was who she was to the very end " the kind of person that as long as you do their biding or what they expect of you then they would love you" and she proved that side of her at the end of the Serial during the conversion track so well that's her; we see the kinds of her in our bosses at work. They just expect you to be good and meet their expectation anything less is not good enough.

They say 'silence is golden' and that is the place where Jalal is now he and in this situation it is the best remedy as he is the kind of person that workers with facts and evidence.

Jodha has gone back to one point only and that's why she is lashing out on Jalal without holding back: she was almost believing that she and Jalal could find a way to be friends and get along and then this issue strikes so to her it is all a game and has always been a game of Jalal to show his 'hate' for her. And that has been her fear all along when he started showing so much care, attraction and importance towards her and she refuse to open up to him. Jalal somehow acknowledged this fact that he has made her to believe in this 'game of hate' so her state of hate towards him is justified.

But soon Jodha would realized it stopped being a game to him a long time ago and all he wants now is her, acceptance, closeness, love and trust.




Edited by BeaBea - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Harshu, I loved reading your detailed analysis for today's episode.

In this entire false pregnancy fiasco, the viewers are able to see the gracious, magnanimous, mature, pragmatic and selfless side of Salima Begum. I simply could not miss her face lighting up with a smile on hearing Jalal acknowledging to the Hakima that he fully well knows Jodha is not pregnant and is confident of her being a loyal wife. Him declaring that he is aware of her emotional turmoil with the allegation of a false pregnancy, has also revealed to Salima Begum that Jalal has begun to develop feelings for his Rajput wife. She is genuinely happy about this development and decides to help ease out both Jalal and Jodha's pain by feeding the ark to Jodha, that will prove Jodha's innocence in this entire drama. The manner in which she stands up for Jodha while discussing her with Rukaiyya, proves that she is truly noble. Lesser said about BEK, the better.

We had Hamida Begum see-sawing with her reactions again, today. Fault lies with wrong characterization on the part of the Creatives. They have made a joke out of her character, in this situation.

Jalal as the distressed husband and Shehenshah was awesome today. The manner in which he stood up for Jodha by silently allowing his mother to rain abuses on him and the manner in which he again silently listens to Jodha declaring that she hates him for playing with her emotions, is simply outstanding. Once she leaves, he softly says, that she is totally justified in her anger towards and hatred for him. That both Jalal and Jodha will stand by each other through thick and thin, is obvious with both the rings balancing themselves on the weighing scale today.

Jodha is the victim here. Jalal's inconsistent replies to her about being intimate with her have completely confused her. She is really angry with him because she feels cheated and used. If only she realizes why her husband is uncharacteristically uncertain and wavering with his replies, matters would have been completely different. Right now, the self respecting Rajvanshi is too upset about her character being tainted, and cannot think about anything else besides her morality being questioned. I would have reacted the same way too. Once the truth is out, her opinion of Jalal will completely change.

Manisha, RT and PS, all three came up with awesome performances today.


Edited by Charu.S - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-

Lovely analysis Harshu di. 👏

Coming here after almost a week. Feels great. Had been so busy in the past few days. 🥱

As for the episode, it was a nice one.

The first scene. Jalal was in the angry young man mode, as you said. But that was needed here. His assumption seemed completely plausible here. The Hakima could have been hand in gloves with the culprit. It is another thing, that here it was not so. So, Jalal was awesome here, in interrogating the Hakima strictly, and wanting to know the entire truth. ⭐️

What importance she holds in his life, need not be proved now. When he came to know about her pregnancy, he could have told everyone that he had never even come close to her. But he didn't. Whatever said or heard, he himself couldn't doubt her outright. And now, see how he tries every possible way to bring out the truth, and end both of theirs misery.

I really don't want to comment on the Jo - HB scene. 🤢 It seems as if HB is also having that kaan ka kaccha syndrome. Wasn't she too hasty in confronting Jodha? Contrast it to SB's reaction. Salima Begum had so much trust on Jodha. Despit the fact that Jodha has been much more close to HB, than to Salima Begum. This is only because Salima Begum has a much greater understanding of human nature, it seems. Whereas HB is believing whatever she heard, even without any sort of cross - checking or confirmation. She is such an experienced person, and such actions of her really puzzle me. If Jalal had reacted the same way, it could have been understood. He is a young emperor, still in process of understanding his wife, who claims to hate him. But he still came out much better than HB. He too confronted her, but that was kinda expected of him, as I said above. But not for HB, she is someone so close to Jodha, and she loved her so much. Imagine what would have Jo felt like. Her support in Agra, seemed to shatter in front of her own eyes.

Loved Jalal in this scene. He tried to save her from public humiliation, even before the actual truth was out. That is because, his inner self had already told him the truth. The result of the Hakima's test was only to satisfy his brain's, and the others' doubts. His heart already knew the truth. I was really confused in this scene, for whom should I feel pity here? Both Jalal and Jodha are in so much pain, and bearing so much. Jalal, to save her, from all these allegations, is taking up everything on himself. Knowing that both Jodha nd his Ammijaan, and all of the rest too, are going to hate him after this. If this is not love, then I don't know what is. 👏 And Jodha, cursing her fate, thinking what kind of a life she has been made to live. Is this the same person, she had started understanding in Amer? Her pain and hurt, is really immeasurable.

Loved how Jalal is ignoring Ruks in this matter. Because as he said, she won't be able to understand this, even if she wanted to.

The Ruks - Salima scene. I loved Salima Begum all throughout this track. Here, see how she stops Ruks, and says, " Gustaakhi Maaf, Ruqaiya Begum." Awesome! 👏 This is the kind of response I have always wanted from Jodha to Ruks. Dignified, yet insulting. SB is one person in Agra, I so love besides AkDha and Rahim.

As you said, the best part is here. I don't really know why Jodha came there. Only to announce once again, how much she hated him. Jokes apart, a very symbolic scene this was. See the way, he balances both the sides of the balance with rings, one of Jodha's, and one of his own. And then, says, " Aap ki nafrat humare liye jaayaz hai, Jodha Begum. Humein aapki nafart qubool hai." OMG...This is a kind of moment, which can't be expressed in words. Kind of goosebumps feeling. 😳 ❤️ I mean, there are numerous love stories, we have heard and seen on TV, that begin with hate. But, have we ever seen someone accepting the other's hate for him? I guess not. This is what makes this story special, acceptance of each other. Loved loved loved Jalal here...👏⭐️ This story, is really special, in many aspects, and many of them will unfold in this track itself. 😳



Very beautiful analysis. You described the two pivotal scenes very well. In Jalal Hamida scene, the pain of both Jodha and Jalal. In the Tarazu scene, the quiet stoicism with which Jalal accepts Jodha's hate.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: RamSiyaRam

Wonderful detail update Harshu⭐️ The dialogues you selected are best ones, you can add the "ghrina" one also😆😆


Jalal threatens the Hakima and asks her why did she say Jodha is pregnant when he did not touch her and he suspected her but she stood up for herself and confronted back to him, he saw that her eyes and heart spoke the truth. Because of her alleged judgment, Jodha's life is in mess and he is lying around to hide the whole thing. Hakima then says its possible someone gave Jodha herbs which give this kind of effect and recites past incident about a MIL hating her DIL. Shehenshah has many enemies so any on them may be Jodha the herbs. Jalal asks how to verify it and stop it. Hakima gives a herb and tells that if Jodha isnt pregnant then she would vomit out blue🤣 🤣 . Ekta and her colorful vomits.🤣🤣 Salima decides to give it to Jodha.


Here Jalal showed his concern for Jodha's honor and Salima supported him. His anger towards Hakima was high since he told her he would chop off her head.

Distrusting Jodha, Hamida as marium makani wants to know who is the father of baby, as Jalal did not touch her. She committed a serious offense and will have to leave mughal sultanate and go away. She will tell the world that Jodha died. Hearing all this Jodha is tearful and heartbroken, whimpers "aamijan" she had thought in agra, she was the only one who understood her completely but alas thats not so but Hamida is in no mood to listen and tells her Jalal would not lie about this. Maham is elated and almost jumping.

In the nick of time, Jalal arrives and looking on the ground, tells Hamida she is wrong and he had infact spend night with Jodha. He was in doubt whether a woman can become pregnant just by spending one night. Jodha, Hamida are shocked and at this Maham alleges that Jalal is trying to protect Jodha. Jodha is angry and informs that she hates the moment her hand was given to him in marriage, she hates the time when he took undue advantage of her, she hates the unborn child. Jalal now says that he just wanted to know whether Jodha had relations with anyone else so he raised his doubt. He wanted to be sure that the baby is his. Hamida gets furious that he mocked the relations and made her doubt Jodha and ask her painful ques. Hamida gets very angry and tells him he has let down the mughal takht and he should leave before she insults the shehenshah. Hamida then apologies to Jodha and Maham is annoyed as her evil plan failed😆😆😆

The whole scene showed the toughness needed by Jalal to take the blame on himself so as to protect Jodha. And Jodha bearing all the brunt earlier and pain of knowing his reason.


Ruq_Jalal scene just showed the haughty nature of Ruq, who is unsupportive but wanted to take adv of situation so she wants to know about the issue but Jalal was cool and calculative who simply told Ruq that he is investigating the matter.

Salima comes to meet Jodha to give her the herb mixed in rose drink and next wait for the result😆 Rahim is playing with Salima and gives her false medicine since she had vomited, Ruq who has come to meet her, taunts that in harem, begums are showing such symptoms like Jodha has. Salima wards it off and tells her it does not suit her royal blood to say it for another royal blood. But Ruq is Ruq- haughty.


Jalal is near tarazu, thinking about the truth and he is restless to know the result of the herb on Jodha. And there comes Jodha full angry mode and tells him that she did not come to argue about his changing decision but just to tell him that she hates him (ghrina karte hai).
Jalal quietly listens to her and next keeps the ring on the balance and another ring on the other side. He says that he had to lie to save her and he accepts her hatred. Ishq hai woh ahsaas plays. Perhaps indicating changing heart/feelings of Jalal for Jodha.


Wonderful detailed writeup with clear step by step description of all major scenes.
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@Donjas, Thank you so much. Glad you liked my analysis. 😃
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Originally posted by: BeaBea

Thanks Harshu for the awesome update. 😊

A lot have been said about HB already so I would not bother with her but contrary to the belief that she was inconsistent in her actions I would say she was who she was to the very end " the kind of person that as long as you do their biding or what they expect of you then they would love you" and she proved that side of her at the end of the Serial during the conversion track so well that's her; we see the kinds of her in our bosses at work. They just expect you to be good and meet their expectation anything less is not good enough.

They say 'silence is golden' and that is the place where Jalal is now he and in this situation it is the best remedy as he is the kind of person that workers with facts and evidence.

Jodha has gone back to one point only and that's why she is lashing out on Jalal without holding back: she was almost believing that she and Jalal could find a way to be friends and get along and then this issue strikes so to her it is all a game and has always been a game of Jalal to show his 'hate' for her. And that has been her fear all along when he started showing so much care, attraction and importance towards her and she refuse to open up to him. Jalal somehow acknowledged this fact that he has made her to believe in this 'game of hate' so her state of hate towards him is justified.

But soon Jodha would realized it stopped being a game to him a long time ago and all he wants now is her, acceptance, closeness, love and trust.





Very thought provoking analysis. My response-
1 Your analysis of Hamida's behaviour is spot on. In my opinion, she is a fair weather friend, always there when everything is fine but disappears when trouble hits. Of course, in fairness she did help out Jodha in the conversion issue.

2 That game viewpoint also seems logical. The number of flip flops that Jalal has had to do regarding that infamous stormy night must have confirmed Jodha's suspicions.

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Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-

@Donjas, Thank you so much. Glad you liked my analysis. 😃


Your reviews are always classy. I look forward to your analysis of today's explosive stuff.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Charu.S

Harshu, I loved reading your detailed analysis for today's episode.

In this entire false pregnancy fiasco, the viewers are able to see the gracious, magnanimous, mature, pragmatic and selfless side of Salima Begum. I simply could not miss her face lighting up with a smile on hearing Jalal acknowledging to the Hakima that he fully well knows Jodha is not pregnant and is confident of her being a loyal wife. Him declaring that he is aware of her emotional turmoil with the allegation of a false pregnancy, has also revealed to Salima Begum that Jalal has begun to develop feelings for his Rajput wife. She is genuinely happy about this development and decides to help ease out both Jalal and Jodha's pain by feeding the ark to Jodha, that will prove Jodha's innocence in this entire drama. The manner in which she stands up for Jodha while discussing her with Rukaiyya, proves that she is truly noble. Lesser said about BEK, the better.

We had Hamida Begum see-sawing with her reactions again, today. Fault lies with wrong characterization on the part of the Creatives. They have made a joke out of her character, in this situation.

Jalal as the distressed husband and Shehenshah was awesome today. The manner in which he stood up for Jodha by silently allowing his mother to rain abuses on him and the manner in which he again silently listens to Jodha declaring that she hates him for playing with her emotions, is simply outstanding. Once she leaves, he softly says, that she is totally justified in her anger towards and hatred for him. That both Jalal and Jodha will stand by each other through thick and thin, is obvious with both the rings balancing themselves on the weighing scale today.

Jodha is the victim here. Jalal's inconsistent replies to her about being intimate with her have completely confused her. She is really angry with him because she feels cheated and used. If only she realizes why her husband is uncharacteristically uncertain and wavering with his replies, matters would have been completely different. Right now, the self respecting Rajvanshi is too upset about her character being tainted, and cannot think about anything else besides her morality being questioned. I would have reacted the same way too. Once the truth is out, her opinion of Jalal will completely change.

Manisha, RT and PS, all three came up with awesome performances today.


Need I say that this is so interesting to read. My views-
1 I don't think the characterization of Hamida has been inconsistent. She has always been like this. A fair weather friend, who is nowhere to be seen in times of trouble. She will be around, all smiles when everything is fine, but always takes the easy way out when trouble appears.

There is another point, the Jodha Hamida confrontation again proves that a mother will always look after her own first. This situation arose because she knows her son and is convinced that he can never lie.

2 Jalal's flip flop answers, of course due to no fault of his have convinced Jodha that to Jalal this is all a game, hence her fury.

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