Jodha Akbar 34-36: Shaahi Shaadi - Page 8

Originally posted by: Bindu_nhbr

Aunty,

Thanks for such a marvellous analysis of astounding Shaadi and pre-wedding stuff😊

I enjoyed reading ur post and others' views on these set of episodes thoroughly.

Keeping aside all the characters for a while,I must say all the actors were fairly good in these episodes including mithai wala and his assistant😆

Jo's brothers except BD, were not up to the mark and Ashwini's expressions were lil OTT😔

Paridhi and Rajat were so good that no adjectives are enough to praise.For me,they are the best couple onscreen and compliment each other very well.

You've described everything perfectly and I have nothing to add aunty.I didn't give much thought to the aftermath of Jodha burning Shaadi ka joda and her 2 conditions until I read ur post.

You rightly said that she forgot her statements made earlier to her baapusa and acted unwisely.She must have thought of Amer's future and the consequences of her act.

But like few other friends,I too feel she could not be blamed entirely.She was ready to marry anyone irrespective of their age,looks,nature etc provided,he is a Rajput and could gift her Jalal ka sar thus helping Amer.(She failed to perceive the strength of Jalal or may be she had high confidence in fellow Rajputs).

She acted responsibly as a princess and comforted her father.This shows her respect and immense trust she has on Bharmal,but doesn't relieve Bharmal & Co from their responsibility.

She might not have thought that her father had chosen this path to save Amer when she stopped him from mentioning the name of veer yogdha.She is deadly against marrying a mughul,that too jallad whom she loathes.(even though he is extremely charming and dashing who has invaded her mind from the time she saw him at the Gangaur😉😆)

So,her reaction is not that unwarranted,IMO.She was deceived by her family and enraged by Maham's attitude later.All those jewels and gifts infuriated her more and reminded the insult they were subjected to by mughuls.Everything was so unexpected,disturbing and shocking to her.(I'm glad she burnt that dress.The so called unique and special one was nothing when compared to the one she wore😆)

By the way,Abhay has mentioned that the date of birth of MUZ mentioned on the internet is wrong.It was in mid 1546 and not 1542.

Her two conditions for marriage was actually a planned and calculated move unlike the burning of Shaadi ka joda.May be,she thought Jalal wouldn't harm Amer if he himself backs off from this alliance.

One thing is clear to Jalal now,she is not an ordinary princess or like his other begums who die for his one glimpse.She will not give up without putting up a fight.

Jalal made clear to Jodha that he will get what he wants,no matter what.

I feel Jalal wouldn't have waged a war on Amer even if he had to back off as he doesn't want the name of Rajputs to be given a higher place in the history.He fears this more than the damage to Mughul's fame which is evident from his conversation with badiammi.

Of course,Jodha doesn't know what Jalal thinks,so I'm not sure whether she believed they could continue their support to Mughul Sulatanat without any relationship or she failed to think of Amer.

I agree with everything else aunty like Maham's impatience to slap Adham amidst the marriage preparations and others.

I hate this Maham😡 and once again Jalal was shown dumb.He should've doubted Adham's over action.

Another interesting point that was raised by someone on Harshu's thread is Sharif's behavior.No where he feels jealous or enraged for not being able to marry Amer ki Shehzadi.He is only irritated with Hindu's rituals and jealous that Adham was given a chance to perform ritual but not him.Only after few days,he starts scheming against Jodha-Jalal and we all know his stupid acts later.

The whole shaadi looked every bit a shaahi one and I just couldn't take my eyes off from the gorgeous couple just like Jalal did with Jodha😉.

The last scene b/w Jalal and his cute little saalis was lovely and as u said,so much of hungama, for juthis was unnecessary.

Originally posted by: pilluitla

hi Shyamala ji

i read u r all views and excellent analysis i like it . this is first time iam giving reply to u r post. i agree with u r analysis but bindu, devki ,donjas, coolpie have given different views on jodha and those r valid points too.

thank you

srilu

Originally posted by: Bindu_nhbr

Aunty,

I know you would have said the same even if I had completely agreed with ur views😆 and thanks for your advice😊

From 1st October,I've decided to strictly stay out of IF.But I feel, I should do it from today itself and go for something else for a break.

But I would've been happy if u had mentioned something abt my views Aunty.

Originally posted by: Bindu_nhbr

Aunty,

Thanks for such a marvellous analysis of astounding Shaadi and pre-wedding stuff😊

I enjoyed reading ur post and others' views on these set of episodes thoroughly.

Keeping aside all the characters for a while,I must say all the actors were fairly good in these episodes including mithai wala and his assistant😆 He was really very funny, as was the way in which Jalal acknowledged his presence!

Jo's brothers except BD, were not up to the mark and Ashwini's expressions were lil OTT😔 Little? Quite a lot, and as Jalal does not look at her and she does not care who else does, she carries on happily making odd faces!

Paridhi and Rajat were so good that no adjectives are enough to praise.For me,they are the best couple onscreen and compliment each other very well.

You've described everything perfectly and I have nothing to add aunty.I didn't give much thought to the aftermath of Jodha burning Shaadi ka joda and her 2 conditions until I read ur post.

You rightly said that she forgot her statements made earlier to her baapusa and acted unwisely.She must have thought of Amer's future and the consequences of her act.

But like few other friends,I too feel she could not be blamed entirely.She was ready to marry anyone irrespective of their age,looks,nature etc provided,he is a Rajput and could gift her Jalal ka sar thus helping Amer.(She failed to perceive the strength of Jalal or may be she had high confidence in fellow Rajputs).

She acted responsibly as a princess and comforted her father.This shows her respect and immense trust she has on Bharmal,but doesn't relieve Bharmal & Co from their responsibility.

She might not have thought that her father had chosen this path to save Amer when she stopped him from mentioning the name of veer yogdha.She is deadly against marrying a mughul,that too jallad whom she loathes.(even though he is extremely charming and dashing who has invaded her mind from the time she saw him at the Gangaur😉😆)

So,her reaction is not that unwarranted,IMO.She was deceived by her family and enraged by Maham's attitude later.All those jewels and gifts infuriated her more and reminded the insult they were subjected to by mughuls.Everything was so unexpected,disturbing and shocking to her.(I'm glad she burnt that dress.The so called unique and special one was nothing when compared to the one she wore😆)

As for the dress she finally wore, I agree with you, and if you remember, I said so in my post.

As for the rest, we have to agree to disagree, I think. One point,what if Jalal was not so far-seeing and he had let Sharifuddin and the even worse Adham loose on Amer? Is that not what Jodha should have expected from a kroor Jallad? And yet she does not spare a thought for the fate of Amer, and indulges her own feelings to the full. I can neither admire nor excuse such behaviour.

By the way,Abhay has mentioned that the date of birth of MUZ mentioned on the internet is wrong.It was in mid 1546 and not 1542.

That of course is what he says. Then again, the reel Jodha is said to be 17+. If, as Abhay claims, she was not even 16 at the time of her marriage in February 1562, I must say she preaches a lot for a less than 16 year old, and then when delivery time comes, welshes on her own promises. And there is no way the reel Jodha looks less than 16! 😉

Her two conditions for marriage was actually a planned and calculated move unlike the burning of Shaadi ka joda.May be,she thought Jalal wouldn't harm Amer if he himself backs off from this alliance.

One thing is clear to Jalal now,she is not an ordinary princess or like his other begums who die for his one glimpse.She will not give up without putting up a fight.

Jalal made clear to Jodha that he will get what he wants,no matter what.

I feel Jalal wouldn't have waged a war on Amer even if he had to back off as he doesn't want the name of Rajputs to be given a higher place in the history.He fears this more than the damage to Mughul's fame which is evident from his conversation with badiammi.

No, I agree that he would not have attacked Amer. But how could Jodha have been sure of that? Moreover, as I have noted in my post,

"What she forgets is that even if he does drop the idea, and does not attack Amer to take revenge, Bharmal and Amer would be back in the same parlous plight in which they were before Chughtai Khan took Bharmal to meet the Shahenshah. Sharifuddin would again have squeezed Amer dry under the thread of destruction in a mukammal jung, and then annexed it when the royal treasury was bankrupt.

So once again Jodha displays a sad lack of the political understanding that one would expect from an intelligent princess. That her ploy fails, and this sad prospect along with it, is another matter altogether. "

Then again, given her black picture of Jalal, how could she assume that he would not hit back at being thus outwitted by a chit of a girl? I am not going to repeat myself, but you might like take a look at what I wrote to Donjas on page 3 above, in response to a rather enticing theory of his.

Of course,Jodha doesn't know what Jalal thinks,so I'm not sure whether she believed they could continue their support to Mughul Sulatanat without any relationship or she failed to think of Amer.

There is no way, after accepting all your arguments about what Jodha felt about Jalal, that she could have expected any such reaction from him. She simply thought only of herself, then why all these bhashans?

I agree with everything else aunty like Maham's impatience to slap Adham amidst the marriage preparations and others.

I hate this Maham😡 and once again Jalal was shown dumb.He should've doubted Adham's over action.

Another interesting point that was raised by someone on Harshu's thread is Sharif's behavior.No where he feels jealous or enraged for not being able to marry Amer ki Shehzadi.He is only irritated with Hindu's rituals and jealous that Adham was given a chance to perform ritual but not him.Only after few days,he starts scheming against Jodha-Jalal and we all know his stupid acts later.

I agree 100% with this, my dear. At this stage, there is NO indication of Sharifuddin still pursuing his dreams of acquiring Jodha.

The whole shaadi looked every bit a shaahi one and I just couldn't take my eyes off from the gorgeous couple just like Jalal did with Jodha😉.

The last scene b/w Jalal and his cute little saalis was lovely and as u said,so much of hungama, for juthis was unnecessary. Yes, it was all OTT in the beginning and as I wrote, uncalled for and unsightly too.