Jodha Akbar 15th April 2015 .. Analysis Updated on Page-2 , Pic on Pg3 - Page 5

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sindhu, Charu and Ndi

Thanks for sharing your views :)

Charu, I agree with you that the CVs need to pull up their socks and show more substance than just the romance between JJ and, worse, between SA. Yesterday, I was dismayed that the mazhar declaration was done away with so casually. Who among the audience would have registered its importance.? I wouldn't have, if I had not been educated about this by Abhay.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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hi to all i read all posts and very well expressed .
RADHIKA i will try to write in simple Telugu and THANK Q .i liked u r views on jj scenes and u r ques r very valid. i read all u r previous posts and i liked u r views. i cant write that much but i like to read all views. i waited for u r post on tuesday.
ABHAY i liked u r details on epi.and yes episode was good.my view on promo it is a dream of some one because HB already knew about jo wanted to convert to Islam but jl rejected then why will ask jo to convert.but any way we will see .
yest i couldnt reply to u r posts due to net problem.
THANKS TO ALL
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes Abhay,
I loved yesterdays episode. It was too good. Of corse Akdha scenes were cute and romantic. Their chemistry is just unmatched.. No one can recreate it. That too with jst eye-locks OMG.. They both were fabulous. But on political front too things are now moving.. but why is HB so concerned about not spoiling relations with Shah-Iran.. She was talking about getting Khanum married to some one in Shah-Irans family.. I think she would interfere and stop Jalal from declaring war against Iran.. Now Jalal will be in a fix .. HB S does not want war..so she will pressurize Jo to convert to Islam.

Yesterdays decree did not seem good enough.. It shold have been more strong as you had mentioned in your thread "Master stroke" .HBs interference is going to be a cuse of concern..

For once Ruks habit of snatching others things should have taught her a lesson for her life. She always wanted what belonged to Jo.. Kaash ki shwal pehen hi leti... This track is going to extend more.. I dont mind if they keep showing good episodes like the one yesterday along with some sizzling JJ scenes..


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Posted: 10 years ago
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you both are n fire.. Lovely views.Both of you are bang o n..Hope CVS read your comments... Just one query.. does such a poison actually exist By touching it one would die? OMG.. I to would really be scared accepting such gifts.. thank God we are not royals..Lolz.. Yes and about the decree, after reading about its importance from Abhays post..yesterday..it just came and went.. and like you said ,had we not known the importance of this document, we would not have understood the importance of it..CVS took it too casually.. We have to relish whatever morsels of history they throw at us. .. But Akdha scenes are always refreshing ..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I love this post,everyone writes so well and different povs are shared without any kind of clash. sO MANY TIMES i HAVE fumed with the epi but here someone's thoughtful positive post has calmed me, thanku very much for such insightful writings
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: srilu321

hi to all i read all posts and very well expressed .

RADHIKA i will try to write in simple Telugu and THANK Q .i liked u r views on jj scenes and u r ques r very valid. i read all u r previous posts and i liked u r views. i cant write that much but i like to read all views. i waited for u r post on tuesday.
ABHAY i liked u r details on epi.and yes episode was good.my view on promo it is a dream of some one because HB already knew about jo wanted to convert to Islam but jl rejected then why will ask jo to convert.but any way we will see .
yest i couldnt reply to u r posts due to net problem.
THANKS TO ALL



Welcome Sri.
You can post in Telegu, if you feel comfortable in that. :)
Though, i understand your English also, quite easily.

I do think, promo is either a dream or some plan.
Let us see.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Sindhu, Charu and Ndi

Thanks for sharing your views :)

Charu, I agree with you that the CVs need to pull up their socks and show more substance than just the romance between JJ and, worse, between SA. Yesterday, I was dismayed that the mazhar declaration was done away with so casually. Who among the audience would have registered its importance.? I wouldn't have, if I had not been educated about this by Abhay.



Radhika and all,

As Tarunika also mentioned and i too felt that the Mazhar document was a bit taken in an "easier manner" by the CV's. I expected some heavy handed treatment to the Ulemas and Shah i Iran, but i do think that will come in future, when they actually use the Mazhar..


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: neesha19

Yes Abhay,


I loved yesterdays episode. It was too good. Of corse Akdha scenes were cute and romantic. Their chemistry is just unmatched.. No one can recreate it. That too with jst eye-locks OMG.. They both were fabulous. But on political front too things are now moving.. but why is HB so concerned about not spoiling relations with Shah-Iran.. She was talking about getting Khanum married to some one in Shah-Irans family.. I think she would interfere and stop Jalal from declaring war against Iran.. Now Jalal will be in a fix .. HB S does not want war..so she will pressurize Jo to convert to Islam.

Yesterdays decree did not seem good enough.. It shold have been more strong as you had mentioned in your thread "Master stroke" .HBs interference is going to be a cuse of concern..

For once Ruks habit of snatching others things should have taught her a lesson for her life. She always wanted what belonged to Jo.. Kaash ki shwal pehen hi leti... This track is going to extend more.. I dont mind if they keep showing good episodes like the one yesterday along with some sizzling JJ scenes..



Neesha,

Do you think Ruqs will get harmed by that shawl ?
I feel Salima Begum will stop her on time and later only they will get to know of some possibile conspiracy against Jodha.

Yes, the episode was enjoyable. I have no complains. Mazhar declaration was a bit "pheeka" , i am sure of better use of Mazhar in coming episodes. :)

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Abhay

A lovely update for a beautiful and power-packed episode! I can see you enjoyed the episode today and had great fun writing the update ;p


The Infallibility Decree

It came and it went just like that! I was so surprised when Sheikh Mubarak suddenly started reading the document which was almost the same as the original. We who know about this document understood its significance but i am sure the masses would have missed the significance of the document and considered it just part of the NR and not something HISTORICAL! No promo, no highlighting, nothing!?

The PH is crazy - first they show something so important and then they bury it under other stuff. 😕

I am expecting the Mazhar being put to use in coming episodes, and the subsequent reactions. Let us see. :D


The AkDha Magic

Ever since people started protesting the SA love story, the CVs are ensuring to include at least one magical AkDha scene to keep the audience hooked and quiet. 😆

This works just well for AkDha fans who can never have enough of their favorite couple.

The only thing is I wish the CVs found new ways to show AkDha romance instead of recycling their old scenes.

Like the lovely Roothna Manana scene showed Jodha thinking that Jalal had caught hold of her dupatta. This was so similar to the scene when Rahim had caught hold of Jodha's dupatta and Jodha had thought it was Jalal.

These days, this roothna manana is being done regularly with either of JJ claiming in mock anger that they will not speak to the other. While it could get repetitive with any other pair, this magical duo ensures that this routine looks fresh every time. 😳

They just feel so comfortable with each other. They look like a really married couple and it's hard to imagine that they are acting. 😊 There is so much love and joy in the air when the two are together. Some of us wonder how JJ can romance each other when there are such grave issues the empire and the family is facing.

But it is amazing that the pressure of being the rulers in such trying times is forgotten when they are with each other. At that moment, the entire universe ceases to exist and it's just the two of them. They make the following lyrics of an old song ring true:

Dekh ke teri surat
gum ho jati hain
ek hi pal mein
jeevan ki har thakan...

May be they are able to withstand the tremendous pressure on them only by forgetting about it for a while and rejuvenating themselves with light-hearted romance, flirtation and fun-filled banter. For those magical moments, they forget the pain that they carry in their hearts and allow each other to apply the healing touch to their bruised souls.

Yes, they do not look like parents of children who are all set to get married themselves. Because at that moment in time, they become a couple still in the first throes of its passion and romance. And why shouldn't they? :) They have as much right to love each other and celebrate their togetherness as any younger couple.

The hamam scene today was in some ways much better than the dream sequence of Jalal just before the Dhakka night. That had been mostly about passion. Today, the passion was tempered by a joyous romance that both seemed to be enjoying.

You may remember that once earlier, Jalal had dried Jodha's hair near the hamam yet the scene today looked fresh. May be because now there are no unstated misgivings between them and they are totally at ease in each other's company.

They add so many shades to the scene - it's incredible. If Jalal added sensuality by draping the dupatta over Jodha's head (the way he had draped it once on a boat ride) - and the dupatta itself seemed to have imbibed his naughtiness by refusing to stay in place ;p - Jodha added innocent playfulness by splashing him with water as she ran away (as she had once splashed him earlier while playing with Rahim in a pond).

If we are going to have replays of earlier scenes in new avatars, I would like to see AkDha in the Angoori Bagh, talking thru the night, or on a boat ride on a moonlit night. Hoping the CVs oblige. 😳

Like someone here said, the screen sizzles and lights up with their mere presence, even if the scene is innocent and playful.

It was a good scene and shocking for me.
Before Hamam scene we were watching Sharif's father and straight the camera shifted to Hamam.
Though, in other scenes, they can avoid the banter which appears repetitive some times.

The Poisoned Shawl

I was surprised to see Ruq talking to Jodha and Salima in Jodha's hojra today. This lady keeps changing her behavior, making it difficult to keep track of her. And when she can have anything she wants, why does she always want what the other person has. Esp Jodha. Whether Jalal, Salim or a shawl, Ruq is eager to have her hands on them!

It is my desire too, to see her drape the shawl around herself and then writhe in agony. The CVs have a good thing on their hands to punish her for her deeds. What an opportunity lost!?

Salima will probably save her in time. A bandi was shown to walk towards it and may be that bandi will touch the shawl and then die.

Hamida Banu has probably gone to tell Jalal about the shawl. Or her views on the Iran issue??

Anyway I wish to applaud the CVs for their ingenious ideas - poisonous shawl indeed!! I would be afraid to receive such a gift in future. ;p

@Bold..ROFL..


Hamida Banu and the Iranians

Hamida who was initially all for Jalal standing up to the Shah-i-Iran and for supporting Jodha's right to her faith is suddenly worried that the ties between the 2 empires are growing worse, that the Iranians did their family a lot of favors and that Jalal is refuting their authority???

Have the CVs lost it? Hamida Banu has been involved in the Iran issue right from the beginning. She was the one who didn't want to even tell Jodha anything lest she be hurt. Who wanted the navratnas to come up with a solution so that they don't have to agree to the Shah i Iran's demands.

When Sheikh Mubarak listed the favors done by the Iranians on the Mughals and Jalal shut him up, she was still supporting Jalal.

When Salim thundered in the DEK that the Shahenshah should refuse to bend before an outsider, she was positively beaming.

So why is she NOW worried about the ties between the Mughals and the Safavids? Even if it is an act, it is a dumb act because everyone has already seen that she completely supports JJ.

Btw where are all the princesses? Today suddenly there was mention of Shahzadi Khannum and then I remembered that apart from the 3 sullen sons, Akbar also had beautiful daughters of whom we only ever see Aram Bano.

Where is JiJi Anga? Is she dead already?

She died in 1599.
So, she can not die as of now. But, we never know our CV's. :-P
Akbar had personally shaved his moustache, at her death..


When did Hamida decide that she wanted Khannum to marry into the Shah-i-Iran's family?
Does she really think Jalal will agree to the conversion?

I don't know what is there in CV's mind, but if you remember(?) i had written in my post of children of Akbar and MUZ that, there were "marriage talks" of Firoz Khannum with the ruler of Badakshan.

You can check this post..See Point number - 11.
Link:
Children of Akbar and MUZ


And the sa'fir -- do they fly in and out of Agra? How are they able to traverse the distance between Iran and India so fast??

ROFL...
I also don't know how come they "fly in an out" of Agra, so fast.



The Shah-i-Iran

The court should have been shown to be a richly laid out one, in keeping with Persian customs. Who is this Shah - his name I mean? If he's Khudabanda then he should be partially blind. And where is his lovely wife who ruled in his name.

It should be Khudabanda only, the CV's had themselves announced his name a few days back. But, he was blind partially, and it was his wife who ruled in his name. 😉 Though, here the person, we see is aggressive and not blind and he "rules by himself". LOL


the Shah-i-Iran was religiously powerful but the Mughals were wealthier. Just as Akbar never wanted open war with them, they also never sought open war with Akbar. But here both sides keep declaring elaan-i-jung if the other side doesn't listen to them. :((

You are right. Both parties are ready to fight, in every episode..
Yesterday was funny. ROFL



Sharifuddin's Father

He is fast becoming a laughable character. He is mixing his personal vendetta with his desire to protect the Shah-i-Iran from war with Akbar. In his opinion, the root cause of all the troubles in the world is Jodha and that a simple way to get rid of all the problems all at once is to get rid of her.

I have never seen a greater fool. How does he think that Jalal will forget all the present issues if Jodha died - he would become a wounded tiger and be even more determined to crush the power of the Shah-i-Iran.


Summing up, a lot is happening on many fronts. It is not possible to miss even a few seconds of the show. 😊 While the proceedings are engaging now, I hope the wrap up of the track is also done admirably.



Thanks for detailed post Radhika.
Replied briefly in blue color. :)

Edited by history_geek - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: neesha19



you both are n fire.. Lovely views.Both of you are bang o n..Hope CVS read your comments... Just one query.. does such a poison actually exist By touching it one would die? OMG.. I to would really be scared accepting such gifts.. thank God we are not royals..Lolz.. Yes and about the decree, after reading about its importance from Abhays post..yesterday..it just came and went.. and like you said ,had we not known the importance of this document, we would not have understood the importance of it..CVS took it too casually.. We have to relish whatever morsels of history they throw at us. .. But Akdha scenes are always refreshing ..



Not sure about such poisons, but the thing which i have read is that those days people used to have novel methods to kill royals by the use of --

- Arq
- Sherbat
- Attar {poisoned perfume}

---> Their use Was made on a common scale to eliminate enemies. Some kind of arqs were quite unique as i read.

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