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What was it about the once endearing JA that has now kindled a tired indifference in many? What is it that has made many quit and the rest watch more out of habit than interest? ----The evil malice called NR aka Natakiya Roopantar.


History should not be touched if it cannot be handled properly. The CVs have no right to distort the great kings and queens in the name of NR. To strip them of their royalty and make them the standard sbs stuff.

They can add masala and imaginative situations that brings out the essence of the characters. But the writers cannot manipulate the essence of the characters.

For example the Ruqs mc track. The situation was perhaps imaginary. Jodha might have never been nazarband or suspected of foulplay. But the track kept up the essence of all the people involved. Akbar the angry rake falling in love and feeling betrayed and raging, yet collecting himself, taking advice from trusted persons and solving the issues and doing justice. Ruqaiya self centred proud yet just. And Jodha righteous without being rude, fearless and courageous, angry and justifiably so, pained yet proud and above all so queenly. Salima HB were all in their characters. Now such NRs are delicious.

But certainly not the pedestrian stuff like the Mathura track that had the supremo power of the whole Hindustan lie as a roadside corpse to win his lady and standing like a student caught while copying and sent out of the class as his lady leaves to her maaika. And the disgusting Khaibar track where the chief queen was simply carried off by a tarzan. Could anyone dare to touch her let alone carry her off? And her being a willful accomplice in the name of manushyatha was the worst insult to one of the most respected ladies of the era.

The Akbar Abul Mali track...how dare the CVs have Akbar beaten by a cheapo...they had the gall to show him whimpering and crying before he was compelled to pick up his shamaheer ( that was probably half rusted by then). Yes. Heer Kunvri was a warrior queen. If her war skills have to be highlighted why demean Akbar for it. Why not create an NR and weave the story that retains the skills and qualities of the characters involved? Why not Akbar being away on some other war and underhand attack with the help of Shariffu by Abul Mali? And the ladies to the rescue? The queens conduct the mirchi war and hold fort till Akbar comes back and beats Abul Mali black and blue??

The stand of Akbar was resurrected for a short span with the little kids track. Abba Huzoor was beginning to look like an Emperor. But Jodha was compromised. Made to sing lories and weep helplessly for Salim. Would a lady who handled Haj and trade do that? Would she be a bystander to her son being manipulated??

And Ruqaiya...she did remain a chief queen and outlived Akbar and jodha. If she couldn't be punished why show her so black???? Her insecurities were understandable and just tolerable to the point of fake pregnancy. But afeeming was the ruddy limit. And now it is simply not possible to overlook that nag and appreciate her flashes of recent goodness. Why not avoid the afeeming and give the imaginary Haider the honors and leave her grey?

And recently, the part where Jodha says 'as MUZ i will do my duties'... i really expected flashes of intelligence and resourcefullness from her (by now the NR Akbar's buddhiheenta has become routine) but all she did was open a medical camp and food camp in one small village and planned to change the thinking of the entire Hindustan awaam spread acriss 30 lac sq km?????? It was the limits of idiocy making Akbar too stay there to change 'people's opinion' and cook and carry loads when the Sultanate was facing a major military attack and letting his son handle it and feeling 'fakr' about it. All in the name of Natakiya Roopantar.

I don't watch MP. But i read that he was not spared either. The man who upheld his pride and that of his country and refused to bow to the mightiest contemporary too is subjected to the 'totally at sea' syndrome that our heroes suffer from. They are not spared even if they are Akbar or Ashoka, 2 emperors called Great in our History.

And our heroines, the valiant queens who carved a niche for themselves in history are given the worst deal.It is a pity what these mahaan heroines are made to do. Theyare made to utter the most impractical high sounding stuff that is more of a mockery of the intelligence of these ladies, speak that too all high-strung nobility dripping impractical words? Follwed by similar actions too? Ashoka serial's Dharma has exceeded all limits of mahaanta. She is so mahaan that she asks her ruling Emperor husband to tyaag himsa and follow ahimsa as ahimsa is great. What should the Emperor do when the enemy attacks him? Show him the other cheek? What use is such mahaanta that does more harm? That makes one release Shariffu, khaiber with ott dialogues?

We may try to keep the real apart from the real, but the bitter taste left by the reel ones does stay and somewhere tends to overlap.

Don't the CVs owe any moral responsibility to the great historical figures on whose name they make money?


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A must read for any producer who is foolish enough to delve into the treacherous world of historical serials. As you have so clearly put it, Natkiya Rupantar is a potent weapon but it is also a double edged sword.

When properly portrayed, a scene inspired by Natkiya Rupantar can be sublime as was the memorable episode where Jalal at the Mazhar pleads for Jodha's life as she lay dying of poison. There are innumerable examples of how gross a Natkiya Rupantar can be, there is the Khyber episode, a couple of Akbar whipping episodes, the locust craziness episode and so on.

I believe success in historical serials depends on the respect the creatives have for the characters. Too little respect, as in our case and Akbar and his family get subjected to the worst kind of depredations imaginable. Too much respect as in MP and Ashoka serials, and a kind of halo is created around the principal characters that is mind numbingly boring to watch.

Natkiya Rupantar or not, there is a limit that cannot be crossed. JA did just that with the leap, and viewers departed, now Ekta and team are trying all sorts of things to woo viewers back with little success.

Should there be an organization like the censor board for movies, which checks for discrepancies in portrayal of historical characters. I don't know, but in the end the best censor is the viewer who has to decide how much crap he/she can take before saying "Enough is enough."


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very well explained post 👏
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Excellent post. I have to agree with you whole hardheartedly on what you have said about this show. Some NR is essential but it must have some small semblance to history at least. Some of the tracks are so far removed from reality that it is mind boggling.
I have to disagree with you on one point though about MUZ going to one village to serve the people... I think the symbolic gesture of a leader/ first lady going to a village to serve signifies that they are with their people in their time of need instead of sitting in the luxury of their palace. Case in point here in the US the president regularly goes to a small shelter near DC to serve the homeless. OR goes to a relief camp to distribute aid packages to flood victims. Does that gesture get rid of homelessness all over the US? no it does not but it is a small gesture of solidarity. What I find more repulsive about this track is the mighty Akbar getting whipped for stealing grains and the distasteful attempted rape of his royal queen MUZ . Now that to me is unacceptable NR
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I agree with some point you mention bu some i disagree, serving and help people can do with so many way ans since here MUZ know medicine so she decide to open medical camp there is nothing wrong with that, just because she is a queen doesnt meant she must stay at palace and watch people suffer.
In movie and tv series which based on historical there are always pro and contra, and cant make all people satiesfield, i dont know bout other but for me tv show are just tv show no matter how they butcher historical figure character in the end it just a show, i know some people dissapoint how nr portray or jodha but its all just for entertain purpose, i learn long time a go to not expect too much from tv show which base on history not , here in indonesia that happen too.


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fabulous post sandhya... ja has now become an utter mockery of historical characters... iam happy i detached myself frm the show. i have lots of interest in the history and i cannot see the buthchering of historical characters in the name of NR... thats just disgrace..
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Originally posted by: Donjas

A must read for any producer who is foolish enough to delve into the treacherous world of historical serials. As you have so clearly put it, Natkiya Rupantar is a potent weapon but it is also a double edged sword.

When properly portrayed, a scene inspired by Natkiya Rupantar can be sublime as was the memorable episode where Jalal at the Mazhar pleads for Jodha's life as she lay dying of poison. There are innumerable examples of how gross a Natkiya Rupantar can be, there is the Khyber episode, a couple of Akbar whipping episodes, the locust craziness episode and so on.

I believe success in historical serials depends on the respect the creatives have for the characters. Too little respect, as in our case and Akbar and his family get subjected to the worst kind of depredations imaginable. Too much respect as in MP and Ashoka serials, and a kind of halo is created around the principal characters that is mind numbingly boring to watch.

Natkiya Rupantar or not, there is a limit that cannot be crossed. JA did just that with the leap, and viewers departed, now Ekta and team are trying all sorts of things to woo viewers back with little success.

Should there be an organization like the censor board for movies, which checks for discrepancies in portrayal of historical characters. I don't know, but in the end the best censor is the viewer who has to decide how much crap he/she can take before saying "Enough is enough."



Very true Donjas...

I wouldn't mind any NR to any extent as long as the histrical figures and their qualities are not compromised. Had Akbar's efficiency and intelligence and warrior-ship been maintained, had Jodha's smartness and queenliness and Ruqaiya's royalty been maintained it would have been acceptable.

As you mentioned, the mazhar scene was one of the best. Akbar's essence was not distorted there. His status not compromised yet touched our hearts. He wept in solitude for his lady and begged an Emperor greater than him, the Emperor of the Universe.

Another great episode was the magnificent Adham Khan Samhar scene that didn't need NR. It was a slice of history.

No wonder TRPs shot up and JA catapulted to No.1 spot. But the afeeming khaiber todarmal-Shehnaaz-naari shakti mathura track and Akbar's state during the mirchi war the recent keeda problem were all disgusting.
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

What was it about the once endearing JA that has now kindled a tired indifference in many? What is it that has made many quit and the rest watch more out of habit than interest? ----The evil malice called NR aka Natakiya Roopantar.


History should not be touched if it cannot be handled properly. The CVs have no right to distort the great kings and queens in the name of NR. To strip them of their royalty and make them the standard sbs stuff.

They can add masala and imaginative situations that brings out the essence of the characters. But the writers cannot manipulate the essence of the characters.

For example the Ruqs mc track. The situation was perhaps imaginary. Jodha might have never been nazarband or suspected of foulplay. But the track kept up the essence of all the people involved. Akbar the angry rake falling in love and feeling betrayed and raging, yet collecting himself, taking advice from trusted persons and solving the issues and doing justice. Ruqaiya self centred proud yet just. And Jodha righteous without being rude, fearless and courageous, angry and justifiably so, pained yet proud and above all so queenly. Salima HB were all in their characters. Now such NRs are delicious.

But certainly not the pedestrian stuff like the Mathura track that had the supremo power of the whole Hindustan lie as a roadside corpse to win his lady and standing like a student caught while copying and sent out of the class as his lady leaves to her maaika. And the disgusting Khaibar track where the chief queen was simply carried off by a tarzan. Could anyone dare to touch her let alone carry her off? And her being a willful accomplice in the name of manushyatha was the worst insult to one of the most respected ladies of the era.

The Akbar Abul Mali track...how dare the CVs have Akbar beaten by a cheapo...they had the gall to show him whimpering and crying before he was compelled to pick up his shamaheer ( that was probably half rusted by then). Yes. Heer Kunvri was a warrior queen. If her war skills have to be highlighted why demean Akbar for it. Why not create an NR and weave the story that retains the skills and qualities of the characters involved? Why not Akbar being away on some other war and underhand attack with the help of Shariffu by Abul Mali? And the ladies to the rescue? The queens conduct the mirchi war and hold fort till Akbar comes back and beats Abul Mali black and blue??

The stand of Akbar was resurrected for a short span with the little kids track. Abba Huzoor was beginning to look like an Emperor. But Jodha was compromised. Made to sing lories and weep helplessly for Salim. Would a lady who handled Haj and trade do that? Would she be a bystander to her son being manipulated??

And Ruqaiya...she did remain a chief queen and outlived Akbar and jodha. If she couldn't be punished why show her so black???? Her insecurities were understandable and just tolerable to the point of fake pregnancy. But afeeming was the ruddy limit. And now it is simply not possible to overlook that nag and appreciate her flashes of recent goodness. Why not avoid the afeeming and give the imaginary Haider the honors and leave her grey?

And recently, the part where Jodha says 'as MUZ i will do my duties'... i really expected flashes of intelligence and resourcefullness from her (by now the NR Akbar's buddhiheenta has become routine) but all she did was open a medical camp and food camp in one small village and planned to change the thinking of the entire Hindustan awaam spread acriss 30 lac sq km?????? It was the limits of idiocy making Akbar too stay there to change 'people's opinion' and cook and carry loads when the Sultanate was facing a major military attack and letting his son handle it and feeling 'fakr' about it. All in the name of Natakiya Roopantar.

I don't watch MP. But i read that he was not spared either. The man who upheld his pride and that of his country and refused to bow to the mightiest contemporary too is subjected to the 'totally at sea' syndrome that our heroes suffer from. They are not spared even if they are Akbar or Ashoka, 2 emperors called Great in our History.

And our heroines, the valiant queens who carved a niche for themselves in history are given the worst deal.It is a pity what these mahaan heroines are made to do. Theyare made to utter the most impractical high sounding stuff that is more of a mockery of the intelligence of these ladies, speak that too all high-strung nobility dripping impractical words? Follwed by similar actions too? Ashoka serial's Dharma has exceeded all limits of mahaanta. She is so mahaan that she asks her ruling Emperor husband to tyaag himsa and follow ahimsa as ahimsa is great. What should the Emperor do when the enemy attacks him? Show him the other cheek? What use is such mahaanta that does more harm? That makes one release Shariffu, khaiber with ott dialogues?

We may try to keep the real apart from the real, but the bitter taste left by the reel ones does stay and somewhere tends to overlap.

Don't the CVs owe any moral responsibility to the great historical figures on whose name they make money?



SUPERB POST SANDHYA. I AGREE WITH ALL THE POINTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE

NR HAS NOT ONLY DESTROYED A PERFECTLY GOOD AND ENJOY ALE SHOW, IT HAS ALSO MADE A MOCKERY OF THE GREAT EMPEROR AND HIS QUEENS

JALAL, AT THIS STAGE, SHOULD BE CONSILIDATING HIS MUCH EXPANDED EMPIRE, BETTERING ADMINISTRATION, ENCOURAGING ARTS. BIRBAL AKBAR SCENES SHOULD START. UNFORTUNATELY HE IS BEING SHOWN AS THIS TEENAGE LOVER BOY WHO FOLLOWS HIS WIFE AND IS HAPPY TO BE HELPING HER IN COOKING AND OTHER SUNDRY JOBS.

ALAS CVS HAVE REDUCED BIRBAL TO A CONSTIPATED LOOKING WARRIOR😡 HE AND FAZAL LOOK QUITE FUNNY IN THEIR PRESENT ROLE.

JODHA SHOULD START HER TRADE AND OTHER POLITICAL ACTIVITIES. ITS GREAT THAT AT SUCH A TIME OF NEED SHE IS SERVING PEOPLE, BUT TO REDUCE HER STATURE TO THAT OF A NURSE IS PITIABLE. SHE SHOULD BE SHOWN TO BE RUNNING MULTIPLE MEDICAL CAMPS, SEEING TO IT THAT HER SKILLS AND ABILITIES REACH A LARGE QUANTUM OF TE POPULATION. BECOMING A SARPANCH OF A VILLAGE AND TAKING CARE OF DAY TODAY ACTIVITIES OF THAT AREA IS REALLY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE SHOWING HER DO.

AND NOW SHE IS SEEN TO HAVE CONTRACTED THE LAAILAAJ BIMARI!! UFF 😡


NOW SUDDENLY RUKS CHARACTER IS SHOWING SOME POSITIVITY. AT THIS STAGE ALL VIEWERS ARE CONFUSED. IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT THE FUTURE HAS IN STORE FOR HER. CVS SHOULD EITHER GIVE HER SOME PUNISHMENT FOR HER CRIMES, OR JUST REDUCE HER SCREEN TIME CONSIDERABLY. I AM SURE THEY CAN FIND OTHER NEGATIVE CHARACTERS OR PLOTS TO TAKE OVER.

EVEN SALIM'S CHARACTER IS NOW CONFUSING. HE SEEMS TO HAVE SUDDENLY GROWN UP AND IS NOW KEEN TO SHOULDERS ALL HIS DUTIES AS A WALIAAHAD. WITH THE BACKGROUND OF THE HATRED THAT HE HAS FOR HIS PARENTS, HIS ACTS SEEM QUITE CONFUSING.

NATAKIYA ROOPANTAR HAS ALREADY DONE A LOT OF IRREPAIRABLE DAMAGE TO THE ONCE LOVEABLE SHOW. I JUST HOPE CVS TAKE NOTE AND COURSE CORRECT.

SHOWING AKDHA CENTRIC SCENES IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT THE SCENES NEED TO BE BACKED WITH SOME LOGICAL TRACKS AND PLOTS
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Gud post, though enough has been discussed, and said,, all fell flat, or to say it, you may yell at top of voice but wont effect deaf nears, and Ekta's has got those ears, proved time and again
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Brilliant post Sands. As you know I am off JA for many months now. I was thankfully delivered out of it before Jodha delivered her first, thoughI wish the deliverance had happened much before. I should give a pat to myself for such patience. But as my patience levels are comparatively low, I have no intention of coming back to the show and its forum. But anything for you my dear friend. So I am reporting my views on NR from the CAS Chanakya thread here as requested. So here we go...

As Sands had mentioned, the past melodrama continues even today in the shows, while character being natural would be much appreciated by the viewers of today.

In my previous post, I touched upon the issue at a superficial level, but will add a bit more to it now that Sands have shared her thoughts and made few important points. However, I would like to adhere to the dharma of this thread, and thereby stick to the rules laid down by the TM and also the CM. So, will not get into a detailed discussion of other shows here in this post, but will restrict to minor mentions as examples.

Here's my take on historical shows and what bothers me just as many of my friends here. In the name of historical shows, the type of shows which may appeal to the viewers of anytime, a lot of liberties have been taken, to the extent of distortion of tall figures of history. A Channel Moderator in another forum had mentioned that masala may have to be added keeping in mind the current audience taste. Fair point and I respect that CM's view. And response to that from a foum-wasi was that in which case disclaimer' be added. Again, maybe, a fair suggestion. But what does not look fair to me is that great historical figures, who have EARNED their status and won the love and respect of the people of their times till date, by their character, achievements and much adored personality, cannot be tarnished, not even in a minor manner. How can this ever be fair? How can great ones character, for that matter anyone's character be played with as one may choose to? That is why to me even a disclaimer may not be fair. If you are making a show on a great historical figure, you better stick to the truth in portraying his or her character, else do not even use his or her name in your show, let alone a disclaimer. Historical shows come with a responsibility! If the responsibility cannot be borne, don't venture would be my suggestion.

It is ok and yes required to add masala to the show. But just add them to the show, and not to these great characters is all am saying. The character need to be left intact. Even if the said historical figure had a bad, even sinful past, say it as is. Why paint them total white? Because of the unwritten rule that heroes and heroines always need to be white, not even a taint in the past? If that is the rule, then do shows of such historical figures who may comply with all your rules of the day. Or if you do not find any such, just stick to your fictional stories and do anything you want with the characters there, none can question you. But, why choose to distort a glorious historical character and history? On what right could it be done? Do the makers of the show realize that they are leaving their viewers painful in this process? I am sure this not what is aspired. Just as a forum friend (Coderlady) had suggested in her post, just do fictional stories if you are incapable of dealing with historical figures.

Yes, romance appeals to a majority of the viewers, so the masala added here with nice romantic moments of a Jodha-Jalal or a Pratap-Ajabde and am sure a Ashoka-Devi tomorrow, will be received with open hands and raving comments anytime. This is so, as the concept and such emotion appeals to the audience, and so you are fair in making it exciting to the viewers, especially as the history also talks of their love story. (Well, some may argue the historical evidence behind it. But to me it does not matter, as just as half questions the validity of the history, there is another half proving the history behind it as well. So, this may be fine still catering to one half atleast, as against nothing in history which happens quite liberally in these shows). Moving on, it is also appreciable that the key events in their lives are included in the shows. But how are they included - this is where the viewers have a problem. Recently in MP show, to show a turning point in his life, he was portrayed confused, which even as per the show character portrayed so far does not fit. Likewise, how much Akbar has been taken a royal ride for in JA, we all know. These tall figures are made buddharams, because the writers did not care about the damage they cause to their character or to be precise the writers in the name of pleasing the audience chose to damage their characters, while it has only left the audience miserable. It is heartbreaking to see great ones like these shown as stupid, brainless and need a wife to tell anything and everything in the world. Just because, yet again due to the unwritten rule that heroines are the intelligent ones, bhalidhaan-s always and to glorify them the husbands of them had to pay a huge price and be shown weak and stupid? Even if the heroine's unwritten rule cannot be compromised, it could still be portrayed without compromising on the hero, especially such all-time real heroes. Dear CVs, do what you want with your reel heroes, I do not care. It is entirely your creation. But the real heroes, being played with by zeroes is unbearable.

And why I had to say zeroes? Let me say I still have regards for the CVs, and they have delivered some wonderful and brilliant tracks, like the recent Daman Singh track in MP, but the alignment to the standard TV shows beats me. Why only few brilliant tracks, which you are capable of, just here and there? Why can't it be a brilliant show totally? For instance, take a Harry Potter or the Lord of the Rings, a different world was created and every book was gripping. That is where challenge lies in, talent lies in. Agreed, these are short term compared to serials, where again there is an unwritten rule that it has to be run for few years and extended as long as possible. So, maybe you are running out of themes. Still you can refer to many of the exceptional stories written by great authors around the world for inspiration than the standard kitchen politics. If you are going to argue, that the saas-bahu types is what is liked by the viewers and therefore became a rule, now, who created this rule or this interest in such types in the viewer's mind? PHs like you? Then I suppose, you can change it with your new themes now and create a history. Why not try different things? Especially, when the audience of these days want different, sensible and more natural stuff. So, why go by the grind?
When great historical characters are touched, in the name of NR, the impact is high. A wrong history is being conveyed to masses not aware of the complete history, also hatred or over attachment sets in which the character may not deserve also, as well as blind belief in the characters. How can this be justified? And each show shows a different version of the same characters, even such great, popular, well known icons of all ages. When one glorifies another may show the same personality dark, based on who the hero is (as he has to be totally white and anyone who opposes him needs to be black). I am surprised how no legal action is being taken against such shows, where the pride of the nation is taken for granted and played around with.
The period to which the show caters to, needs to be borne in mind always. But, there is a mix here, pushing in the views and beliefs of this century and hence the resultant mess. Showing Jodha, the royal queen as a sleuth, letting a criminal free etc. etc. - which queen of that age would have done that, even if the queen be the most adored by the king? When vachans, dharma etc. talked and shown as adhered to in line with that age which is dearth these days, then why mix some masala as per this century in to these old time shows? This is where the big issue is. None cribbed about the Ramayana show, which is soaked in dharma, because it stuck to the time period and what happened then, period. This mixing up of masala from various timelines, is leaving the characters contradicted and the viewers confused.
Lastly, I want to touch upon the bhaashan queens, as the heroines/ beloved queens of the great kings are referred to or to be precise bashed by some viewers. Now, what has been done to these queens getting them so much bashing? Maybe we do not have much information about the queen, take the example of Dharma. Does this mean she can be taken for granted, make her say insensible thing, contradict her own beliefs, inconsistency in her own projected character and portrayed as a TV soap heroine? If as per history she was so confused then portray so, else why send such a wrong message? Having no information does not justify that she can be shown anyway. Jodha - the Khaiber track or gifting Sheriffudin release to Bakshi - why make her look so stupid? I believe in the power and value of love and karuna, but it has to be a sensible one. In the name of karuna, all murderers cannot be left free. Dear Cvs, you are stabbing the same heroine you are trying to glorify, worse in the name of glorification. Be consistent in the portrayal of these characters, even of your own show version characters first.

The Jodha, Ajabde and now Dharma from the different shows have been bashed liberally, thanks to the CVs. As I had mentioned in the previous post and as Sandhya, my dear friend, has rightly said, the portrayal causes so much bitterness in one that it extends to the historical figure. That is the sad state of affairs. How, how at all is this fair? It could be argued that the viewers need to be matured to view this as the serial version and not impose this personality on the REAL one and start attacking the Real one. But how many viewers are going to be so matured? But Cvs, my question to you is thatt if you are expecting such a matured audience, then why you need a standard TV soap concept to run your show, it could have been a more intelligent dramatization? This negative or positive feeling extending to the real characters is bound to happen. Those viewers who are well aware of history, they know the truth anyway and they know for sure whom they are bashing. But what about the masses in general who may not be conversant with the history? Like, many of us in the forum know for sure what a Maharana or a Ashoka or a Akbar was and how muchever distortion is done, we know for sure that the original one is untainted by these, though we may feel miserable at such stupid portrayal. However, in the case of the queens, where such vast information may not be available, unless someone takes the trouble to dig them out, as my friend Abhay has tirelessly done, there is a possibility that the distorted version could be associated with the real one for lack of any other information. This is one of the reasons as I see as to why there is more queen bashing than a king bashing in these shows. And more importantly, the portrayal of these queens as standard TV noble bahu heroines. Is this fair to these queens, giving room for such liberal bashing of them? I recently read a post where Dharma is loathed. She is now becoming the next Jodha, unfortunately. But who is responsible for this? They or you writers?

Regarding the bhaashan-s per say, in this century where values are much deteriorated, even mention of dharm is a taboo or a subject of ridicule, will such bhaashan-s sell to the current day audience? Wonder, as you want to cater to the audience interests. The next generation, in the name of forward thinking, will even question Lord Ram or His adherence to dharm, which was revered by the previous generation and discussed by the current generation. This is how it is, the current age. I am not saying it is right or wrong. It is just an observation. With this observation as the backing, how will such bhaashan-s be viewed? A total bore, and even insensible. How many of us would have told our parents not to give bhaashan-s, though we very well know that what they are saying is for our good. But just because, they do not say what we want to hear or what we believe in, they are viewed as giving bhaashan-s. With all due respect to a post of a friend of mine in another forum, where she had referred to the adherence of the promise by the hero at the cost of his life as a stinking promise'. I understand her sentiment well. I am only drawing your attention to the point stinking promise', which is what a promise maybe viewed in this century, based on how inconvenient it could be to one today, while the shows we are watching are from a period, where a promise is valued more than one's life. So, how will such values sell to the present day audience? Only like this, where it is not viewed worthy. In today's world, telling a lie is no big deal. We (in general) tell so many lies each day, still it never even strikes us that we have said a lie in fact. It has become a part of our life, to the extent, we casually lie to joke around. This is the worth of truth today. I remember a great one, asking a friend once 'so it costed you a lie to do this?'. When I heard this, it just blew me away for a moment. How much we have taken it for granted. We all know saying a lie is a sin and it does cost us - the Garuda Purana may enlighten us on how we are going to pay for it. Still, we indulge, without any qualms. This is the worth of dharma today. In such a selfish, worldy, forward-thinking world as today, one will be mocked at for practicing dharma, being truthful, being compassionate, being respectful to elders etc. etc., more so, when they put these values before their own interests. Simple, I remember a friend of mine laughing at me for following the traffic rules and waiting for the signal sincerely. If one does a beach walk for physical health not bothering about earning money in that one hour, we call him wise. But if one does spiritual practices for one's own mental health, we ridicule him. I remember when one person said that he is retiring from work for spiritual practices people around were shocked, but if he had said he is retiring to enjoy life sitting in his farm house, people would have understood and appreciated his wise decision! But let me also tell you, we are still truly awed also by the one who stands the ground of dharma even in trying times, that too in this trying age where belief in the system is gone with the wind - as it is something that is not possible by us. This is why, I suppose, these shows make the heros and heroines white, an ideal person.
Friends, if you are wondering why I am saying all this is, in today's context where dharma has lost its value, it may not sell and may be viewed impractical also by the viewers. While, dharma applies to all ages, really speaking. It is just a matter of faith and the grit to follow. So, coming to the shows, in my view, the person who preaches such dharma may not sell as well, which happen to be the heroines in most of these shows. Being one who has great regards for dharma, I am fine with the bhaashan-s per say, as they say the dharma which is the truth anyway, but I am not fine when they say irrelevant things or make others do insensible things in the name of dharma or any distorted perception of dharma.
As always, this also turned out to be a long post. But you should have been used to it by now. Thanks again for your patient hearing. Just wanted to share what I have been thinking. If it does not align with your views, please feel free to ignore it.

Note: A sincere request to anyone who may want to respond to this post to not bash any historical character as part of their response to respect the sentiments of all and adhering to the forum guidelines.

Edited by Kaana - 10 years ago

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