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Posted: 10 years ago
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Radhika,

Nice to see your thread back on the forum. Surely, this track is bringing many of the earlier REGULARS to this place again. :)

Yes recent episodes have been a treat to watch. The focus is completely on JA. NO Ruqs at all.. And not too much SANAR.

The makers should READ THE WRITING ON THE WALL, this show can NOT be run by their NEW JODI SANAR, no one can create that magic as done by Rajat Tokas and PS...

I can not tell you, how much efforts the people on Twitter and FB have put in for this... Continuously, writing to CV's on both the platforms...

Ruqs may not be exposed, i have had enough of her now. There is a limit to scheming and plotting, but Ruqs case seems never ending.. Only thing by which this can be rectified is that -> They should show Salim understanding Jodha and acknowledging her as his mother. It boils my blood to see the REAL Salim's respect for his mother and his annoying REEL Salim. 😡

Coming to show, i am ready to ignore Ruqs to an extent. Provided we keep getting some POLITICS at least and REALITY based dramatized tracks..

I always enjoy when ever they show us anything which i have read in any form in any of the texts.
Recent track is one such track. See, we can "predict" before hand and we all know what this track will lead to and where the show is heading.. In such cases, we tend to enjoy the show even more..Isn't it ?

This track is going to be a long one, and there are many more twists and turns which are going to come. The quality is improving if you compare it with the episodes of January and December. 😕

Overall, the bottomline is i want the TRP's to rise this time, makers are trying hard to give as much screen space to Jodha and AKbar, perhaps they also want to see if this show can be saved.. I dont want this attempt to fail because that would mean the neglect of effort of RT and PS and that may lead to SA getting back to centre stage which i strongly detest.!

This track is also important because, here the Navratans are also getting the space, some thing which we always demanded.. ->
1. Man Singh
2. TodarMal
3. Abul Fazl
4. Birbal

Jodha is also shown here, it looks like an attempt at re-balancing the show..
Lets support them one last time.. At least this track has a lot of potential. :)))

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Posted: 10 years ago
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i always love to read ur post👍🏼 thanks 4 PM
I still Dont understand why makers still didnt expose her in the show instead of giving trp many people left the show becoz of ruks they are nt getting any benefit becoz of ruks then what is the reason she is still in the show ? before leap i heard she going to be expose before leap take place at end moment i guess makers cancel that Why i still dnt understand
i beg them like beggars to zee..makers & writer they are nt ready to listen what viewers want😵

even i give them idea if you guys dont want to end ruks character okay fine dnt end her character let her continue with her conspiracy at
least for God sake expose her just once in front of all at least viewers satisfied she get expose

if ur saying ruks is trump card then its high time to use these trumpt card and save the show becoz show was already sinking might b becoz of ruks expose people start watching the show again

And i dont want ruks to expose in 5 mins i want ruks all kala chitta should b open properly what what crime she did then might b all feel satisfied

like maham and atifa expose bring show on number 1 and ruks expose ke bring show 10 to 1 becoz from day one people waiting for this day
Edited by susantogiaa - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,

Nice to see your thread back on the forum. Surely, this track is bringing many of the earlier REGULARS to this place again. :)

Yes recent episodes have been a treat to watch. The focus is completely on JA. NO Ruqs at all.. And not too much SANAR.

The makers should READ THE WRITING ON THE WALL, this show can NOT be run by their NEW JODI SANAR, no one can create that magic as done by Rajat Tokas and PS...

I can not tell you, how much efforts the people on Twitter and FB have put in for this... Continuously, writing to CV's on both the platforms...

Ruqs may not be exposed, i have had enough of her now. There is a limit to scheming and plotting, but Ruqs case seems never ending.. Only thing by which this can be rectified is that -> They should show Salim understanding Jodha and acknowledging her as his mother. It boils my blood to see the REAL Salim's respect for his mother and his annoying REEL Salim. 😡

Coming to show, i am ready to ignore Ruqs to an extent. Provided we keep getting some POLITICS at least and REALITY based dramatized tracks..

I always enjoy when ever they show us anything which i have read in any form in any of the texts.
Recent track is one such track. See, we can "predict" before hand and we all know what this track will lead to and where the show is heading.. In such cases, we tend to enjoy the show even more..Isn't it ?

This track is going to be a long one, and there are many more twists and turns which are going to come. The quality is improving if you compare it with the episodes of January and December. 😕

Overall, the bottomline is i want the TRP's to rise this time, makers are trying hard to give as much screen space to Jodha and AKbar, perhaps they also want to see if this show can be saved.. I dont want this attempt to fail because that would mean the neglect of effort of RT and PS and that may lead to SA getting back to centre stage which i strongly detest.!

This track is also important because, here the Navratans are also getting the space, some thing which we always demanded.. ->
1. Man Singh
2. TodarMal
3. Abul Fazl
4. Birbal

Jodha is also shown here, it looks like an attempt at re-balancing the show..
Lets support them one last time.. At least this track has a lot of potential. :)))



Well said Abhay. At least in this track everyone seems to have some scree space..phew..also the best is No ruks for 2 days plus 2 to 3 mins of Sanar. I can tolerate this as long as JJ are shown as leads.

@bold: not only u, but I also get so irritated and worked with Reel salim for his behavior with his Parents..The more frustrating is to watch him call Ruks as ammijaan, who fed him opium. Can anything be worse than this...

Edited by SindhuMenon - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Radhika,

Nice to see your thread back on the forum. Surely, this track is bringing many of the earlier REGULARS to this place again. :)

Yes recent episodes have been a treat to watch. The focus is completely on JA. NO Ruqs at all.. And not too much SANAR.

The makers should READ THE WRITING ON THE WALL, this show can NOT be run by their NEW JODI SANAR, no one can create that magic as done by Rajat Tokas and PS...

I can not tell you, how much efforts the people on Twitter and FB have put in for this... Continuously, writing to CV's on both the platforms...

Ruqs may not be exposed, i have had enough of her now. There is a limit to scheming and plotting, but Ruqs case seems never ending.. Only thing by which this can be rectified is that -> They should show Salim understanding Jodha and acknowledging her as his mother. It boils my blood to see the REAL Salim's respect for his mother and his annoying REEL Salim. 😡

Coming to show, i am ready to ignore Ruqs to an extent. Provided we keep getting some POLITICS at least and REALITY based dramatized tracks..

I always enjoy when ever they show us anything which i have read in any form in any of the texts.
Recent track is one such track. See, we can "predict" before hand and we all know what this track will lead to and where the show is heading.. In such cases, we tend to enjoy the show even more..Isn't it ?

This track is going to be a long one, and there are many more twists and turns which are going to come. The quality is improving if you compare it with the episodes of January and December. 😕

Overall, the bottomline is i want the TRP's to rise this time, makers are trying hard to give as much screen space to Jodha and AKbar, perhaps they also want to see if this show can be saved.. I dont want this attempt to fail because that would mean the neglect of effort of RT and PS and that may lead to SA getting back to centre stage which i strongly detest.!

This track is also important because, here the Navratans are also getting the space, some thing which we always demanded.. ->
1. Man Singh
2. TodarMal
3. Abul Fazl
4. Birbal

Jodha is also shown here, it looks like an attempt at re-balancing the show..
Lets support them one last time.. At least this track has a lot of potential. :)))

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Hey Abhay,

So so pleased to read all your posts. Welcome back to the forum. Had always enjoyed reading you, Radhika,Ela Mansi.. .Your thread on this track really intrigued me and I am back to watching since last two episodes..I agree with you that yesterdays episode was very good. The first 10 minutes where the boy .. the angel is trying to convey a message to Akbar.. was shot very nicely and the dialogues were also good. Hope the CVS maintain this quality.. and I also hope that they visit the forum regularly to get our feed backs . Abhay..I also feel very bad the way Salim treats Jodha.. Pathetic.. I can understand his differences with Akbar.. but then too he cannot be so rude.. the way they have shown him.. he rarely smiles ..always has that frown... I always detested him .. Why is Ekta trying to prove that she can recreate Mughle-Azam on small screen?That she can never do.. She succeeded in making Jodha Akbar..but Mughe-Azam was class apart and how you compare Dilip saab and the great Madhubala ? As you and I have also written that some things cannot be bettered because are already on the highest pedestal. Makers probably wanted to show Jodha Akbars love story though Salim Anarkali...but it was their biggest blunder...

And another thing that spoils the story is too many unwanted characters.. Which leads to less screen space to lead actors... ..But Abhay must say great job done by you... What a wonderful blog and am excited to read more from you about the upcoming tracks.. Lets pray that TRPS skyrocket due to this track and we get to see some memorable episodes of JA. Pl stay on forum... you and Radhika.. and Ela. Sindhu ...I wish Mansi also comes back... its great to have you back
Edited by neeshaa16 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16

OMG ,

First Ela and then you, so nice to read your post..Your post has made my day .. I resonate your thoughts exactly and I had also written a similar mail to Zeetv on their response/feedback page. God alone knows whether it reached the makers or not. But you are so true that this constant negativity ..and always evil triumphing over good has taken away all the viewers from JA.. How can you show that every time.. On Dussera day also they showed victory of evil over good... they changed the symbolism of that festival ...?? How on the Earth they can show this?? OK ..if the CVS love Rukaiya so much and dont want to punish her..then atleast show her good light...How can a person be only negative?? I dont know Maham was also evil... but we did not hate her so much... This Ruks goes into my head...nothing personal against Lavina.. she is a great actor... but her character really sucks now.. How can Jodha and Akbar be so oblivious to the fact that their son hates them and that he is addicted to Afeem.. Actually Salim was always close to his mother.. though he had huge differences with Akbar ... You are absolutely right ..unless and until Ruks is punished ...this show will never gain their TRPS back.. When Maham was punished we were happy... and wished that some day Ruks will also be punished ... but no.. and Akbar blaming Jodha for their childs death was like a final nail in the coffin. I did not watch JA there after... It was heart wrenching.. Does Rukaiya begum have no other job than to scheme and plot against Jodha-Akbar?

Another mistake was Salim Anarkali love story ? When viewers are here to watch Jodha Akbar love story why did they bring the leap ? Now that cannot be rectified anyways..and again sorry to say but I think bad choice of actors .. How can any pair recreate the magic that Paridhi and Rajat have recreated as Jodha and Akbar?? No one stands a chance.. not atleast the current Salim and Anarkali...

Again though Rajat looks good in a stubble but real Akbar never had one I suppose ... Here Rajat looks more like Jesus Christ personified (no offence to anyone please..just my opinion) .

I also read Abhays thread two days ago and enjoyed reading it. I will write to him as well. But missed you guys..on the forum.. This track has atleast brought some of my friends back... on the forum.. Thanks for this Ekta...



Neesha

So good to hear from you after a long time 😊

Exactly, now that the show is on a revival mode, it is time to shed all OLD baggage. And the first old baggage that should be shed is Ruq. Then the makeover will be complete and ALL, not just some, viewers will be back.

No evil stepmother in any fairy tale is this repulsive.

Some steps should be taken to show Salim being close to his own mother as he really was.

The Sanar love story is something that we can live with as long as it is kept low key. It's tough for any actors to match the screen presence and charisma of RTPS and here we have particularly inadequate actors.

Even I find the stubbled Jalal irritating to watch. But at least we are getting to watch him do something other than beg in front of Salim and tribal chiefs.

This track has brought some friends back. I hope the next track brings ALL friends back. 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suganya.S

Will ruqu ever get punished??? This was the QN ringing in my mind, post twins death and salim's affeem spiking 😭😭 ... Radhika di , if at all any second category viewers want ruqu exposure then it would be so so late n meek for all the displeasure her scheming n smirking as brought to all the viewers So it's better we don't pine our hopes for the thing, that will never happen n get disheartened again ... And if, bhandaphod ever happens I agree it ll be skyrocketing of trp in JA show history 😉😆😃


Suganya

Nothing is too late ever. 😊

Look at the way the show has bounced back from the abysmal depths it had descended into and is back again to showing JA against the backdrop of historical events. It is so amazing the way the present track has made up for all past lapses and has brought back hordes of viewers.

I am still expectant that Ruq will be punished one day. If the makers are going to follow history now on, there is NO role for her. She has to be exposed and sidelined now, not just merely sidelined. This is important to convey an important message to viewers that evil is always defeated one day.

bold: Agree heartily 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You are right Neeshaa...


1. Akbar is shown to be too naive so as to not understand whether his son has taken afeem of not. REAL one was not so like this. He ran the entire Hindustan sitting in Agra.!


2. Again Ruqs being the most clever person, gets Hakima mis guide every one.


3. This Salim is shown as such a brain less person, he can not understand what is right and what is wrong? How can a person who gives you afeem be your well wisher.?. On the other hand he hates his parents who have always tried and worked for the best of his interests.


4. Such a lopsided characterisation has been done for Salim that anyone will dislike him. At least in a society like ours, where parents are still respected so much, how can the majority of audience enjoy a person who insults his parents every now and then.?. How can he be a HERO ? Even Anarkali makes sense, compared to Salim. !!


5. Jodha and Ruqayya.

Their relation is beyond my understanding.. 🥱 CV's have portrayed Jodha as some one who can be bettered at every stage by Ruqs. One more thing is that, if the makers can not give a message by punishing the evil, they should not turn anyone into a vamp also. Ruqaya should have remained a grey character only. Now she is very much intolerable.!

MUZ ran international trade in 16th Century, if AKbar controlled the entire Hindustan. Why cant our leads be sensible.? If REAL MUZ was like this, then How can she handle so many responsibilities.!


One incident related to life of Hamida Bano Begum.....(I will post details on sticky thread later with references, as we should not discuss it here..)


When AKbar was 6 years old, he had toothache, his stepmother Haji Begum brought the medicine, but Akbar's own mother Hamida Bano Begum, did not like this.

According to Akbar, HB was worried that the medicine might turn out to be poison. Despite the fact that, Haji was a senior begum of Humayun. 😕 HB did not want to offend Haji Begum, neither she wanted Akbar to take that medicine, hence she told Akbar to immediately go to his room. But the child Akbar was not ready to go and he stayed there only despite HB telling him. A drama followed, and in the end, finally when Haji Begum tasted the medicine herself and made HB satisfied, then only she was allowed to give that medicine to Akbar.

^^^^And now, Compare the case with Ruqayya Begum and Jodha and Salim. Mothers are fiercely protective even in polygamous societies, but our CV's have no sense at all. 🥱


One incident about Jodha and Salim.

Salim notes when he was very young and a kid and not well, his mother and her servants gave him medicine, in consultation with his father. Such small incidents which a person records, are PROOF of the fact that , he loved his parents ..

^^^Compare this with REEL Salim of Jodha Akbar. 😕




CV's do not know how such relations work. I Wanted to share something about polygamy also...

On my blog it self, i have got comments from members from Indonesia and Balkans(Middle East) about polygamy. Many have expressed their views, some have even written about their OWN Family where polygamy persisted till a generation back. Their father had wives, but what they all wrote was -> One of the wife was special , while drawing a parallel with the story of Akbar and MUZ. Recently, a comment was there from a lady who was from > Klungkung regency royal family in Bali, Indonesia about polygamy, was on same lines. The people from those areas, are pretty much more open to the concept of polygamy, and i enjoy interaction with them..

BTW, I am surprised to see that Jodha Akbar is VERY popular in Indonesia and the Middle East, lots of comments come from those areas.


About the Forum

I am here, i have always enjoyed writing about Jodha Akbar. In fact, this is a unique story, and we are blessed to have such leads who can create magic even with the worst of the script. Hope more members come back, just if anyone watches the episodes once will get a signal that things are improving..!! The members will come back slowly, and if not this time, by next time, TRP's should rise because of RT and PS's presence, add to this no Ruqs plotting , and less of SANAR, it makes the present track worth watching.

Edited by history_geek - 10 years ago
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Dear i really like ur post but i dont think Ruq will b punished ever bcoz she is nly main villian left in d show after maham...if she will b punished then who will plot next...every show need mirch masala...
(specially Ekta...now u will say tat this is historical show n need to b based on reality but i will say tat b realistic it is more of Ekta's show rather than historical...)

why i dont think Ruq will nvere b punished...

1. Jalal gave custody of Khurrum(shahjan) to Ruq ..when ruq asked for him..

.( after Khurrum birth..one astologer told jalal that this boy's kudali is as same as timur the founder of mughal sultant...so this child will b next empror ...so as usual Ruq asked for his custody becoa Ruq always wanted to raise empror n b MUZ..) so jalal gave her Khurrum.

2. Before Akbar's death only Ruq n Salima was their to convive jalal to annouce salim as next empror...n forgive salim for his past deeds...so jalal did...neither he has any choice bcoz murad n daniyal was dead...i dont understand why jalal dint annoced Khurrum as next shahenshaha...may b due to Baba Salim saikh prophecy tat salim will b nextin line aftter akbar

3. During akbar's last moment Ruq was near him...but i dint get i why Ruq's final resting place was kabul n not near Akbar whwer as Muz 's was near Akbar.


All in all i can assure u that cv's will never punished Ruq...i m not being negative...i m just being realistic...


But i hope cv's listen to ur prayer n exposed Ruq... i will b happy too...it reallly kills me o see her smikrking all d time...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,

Nice to see your thread back on the forum. Surely, this track is bringing many of the earlier REGULARS to this place again. :)

Yes recent episodes have been a treat to watch. The focus is completely on JA. NO Ruqs at all.. And not too much SANAR.

The makers should READ THE WRITING ON THE WALL, this show can NOT be run by their NEW JODI SANAR, no one can create that magic as done by Rajat Tokas and PS...

I can not tell you, how much efforts the people on Twitter and FB have put in for this... Continuously, writing to CV's on both the platforms...

Ruqs may not be exposed, i have had enough of her now. There is a limit to scheming and plotting, but Ruqs case seems never ending.. Only thing by which this can be rectified is that -> They should show Salim understanding Jodha and acknowledging her as his mother. It boils my blood to see the REAL Salim's respect for his mother and his annoying REEL Salim. 😡

Coming to show, i am ready to ignore Ruqs to an extent. Provided we keep getting some POLITICS at least and REALITY based dramatized tracks..

I always enjoy when ever they show us anything which i have read in any form in any of the texts.
Recent track is one such track. See, we can "predict" before hand and we all know what this track will lead to and where the show is heading.. In such cases, we tend to enjoy the show even more..Isn't it ?

This track is going to be a long one, and there are many more twists and turns which are going to come. The quality is improving if you compare it with the episodes of January and December. 😕

Overall, the bottomline is i want the TRP's to rise this time, makers are trying hard to give as much screen space to Jodha and AKbar, perhaps they also want to see if this show can be saved.. I dont want this attempt to fail because that would mean the neglect of effort of RT and PS and that may lead to SA getting back to centre stage which i strongly detest.!

This track is also important because, here the Navratans are also getting the space, some thing which we always demanded.. ->
1. Man Singh
2. TodarMal
3. Abul Fazl
4. Birbal

Jodha is also shown here, it looks like an attempt at re-balancing the show..
Lets support them one last time.. At least this track has a lot of potential. :)))


Abhay

I hope there is no misunderstanding of the intent of this thread.

I am happy with the present track. I support the show and the makers. Please do not think I am complaining about the present track. It has definitely brought JA back in focus, and also provides space and scope to the navratnas.

@bold: I hope there is no MU here either. I know how much fans have contributed to make this track happen. This is something I mentioned in the main post too. Fans can make or break a show. JA fans, AkDha fans and RTPS fans have contributed hugely to the failure of the show post leap and to the resuscitation of JA-centered tracks and historical events. You and your blog too have contributed here.

Like I told Sindhu, you, Sindhu, I can ignore Ruq and be happy watching JA. But I feel very bad for all my friends who are NOT able to ignore Ruq and are therefore hesitant to return to the show. We have got what we wanted. They too deserve what they want. And it's not like they are asking for the moon.

Let us support the show, the CVs and give them a chance to bring JA back on track and at the top of the charts. The question of can the show be saved does not arise in my mind. The show is good enough and has a comfortable and loyal viewership. The TRPs can improve and will likely improve with present track and similar JA-centered tracks in future.

It is just my sincere request that they should also punish Ruq, expose Salim's addiction and reconcile Salim with his parents, esp mother.
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Originally posted by: susantogiaa

i always love to read ur post👍🏼 thanks 4 PM

I still Dont understand why makers still didnt expose her in the show instead of giving trp many people left the show becoz of ruks they are nt getting any benefit becoz of ruks then what is the reason she is still in the show ? before leap i heard she going to be expose before leap take place at end moment i guess makers cancel that Why i still dnt understand
i beg them like beggars to zee..makers & writer they are nt ready to listen what viewers want😵

even i give them idea if you guys dont want to end ruks character okay fine dnt end her character let her continue with her conspiracy at
least for God sake expose her just once in front of all at least viewers satisfied she get expose

if ur saying ruks is trump card then its high time to use these trumpt card and save the show becoz show was already sinking might b becoz of ruks expose people start watching the show again

And i dont want ruks to expose in 5 mins i want ruks all kala chitta should b open properly what what crime she did then might b all feel satisfied

like maham and atifa expose bring show on number 1 and ruks expose ke bring show 10 to 1 becoz from day one people waiting for this day


Susan

I had given up hope of Ruq getting punished and simply left the show, unable to bear the torture of seeing her face and the senseless tracks.

But now the CVs seem to be making a sincere effort to bring the show back on track, the way it was till mid-2014. The present track is a HUGE relief in terms of conceptualization, the emphasis it gives to JA and other important characters and the way history is being presented with just the right amount of NR.

This track has made me hopeful again that the CVs may proceed logically and show Ruq's punishment and finally END her track. Let us see. 😊

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