Jalal teaches Salim to oppose Ruq! Yay!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Friends, the episode yesterday was a fairly good one considering that we have hit the lowest of lows last week with the repeated drugging of Salim. There was none of that yesterday - thank God - and in fact the best part of the episode I thought was the fact that Salim was fully in his senses and was chipper enough to save his mother from the dakus!

What all was good about the episode? Let's try to be positive ...

* No Ruq ...except for one silly chess scene, where she was playing against a random begum and winning ... and had about 2 minutes to give an evil look and say her "maksad" was to separate Jodha and Salim! If the Creatives do not include these two precious minutes with her saying the same thing in every episode, it looks like the Creatives' atma will not be in shanti!
* There was no scene of Ruq drugging Salim ... if there was such a scene I was planning to write to the Broadcast Standards Authority!
* I thought Jalal was spectacular because they are now showing his "tedaness" as a feature of how he brings up his son and teaches him about the art of kingship. Earlier in the last week's episodes we had Jalal teaching Salim to value the shamsheer over the ghungroo by organising a dance event simultaneously with a swordfight to help Salim see where his attention should always be. Yesterday, Jalal the father staged a full daku-assault act after taking Salim and Jodha to a forest camp, and thereby checked to see Salim's protective instincts of his mother! Having seen that Salim rose to the occasion remarkably well, slashing his own father's arm with his sword in a show of valorous triumph over the dakus, Jalal then went on to use the occasion to deliver his other teda message: "You protected your mother my boy, but yesterday when Ruq wrongfully punished Rashid Khan by stripping him of his job why did you say nothing? You knew you had lied about how Nadira fell into the water ... you boys had tripped her up. Yet when Ruq chastised the girl's parents and rendered her father jobless, why did you not stand up to protect your praja? That family will have nothing to eat if there is no job. Your praja is your larger family and you have a duty to protect them!"
* I loved the way Jalal got to know from both Salim and then Jodha about the ugly incident whereby Ruq sacked Rashid Khan. Salim had only told him that Nadira fell into the water, but Jodha supplied the reasons why she fell into the water, so I am glad Jalal got the whole story before making it an object lesson for his son. I also loved the precap where Ruq is cornered and offering now to resign from her positions of power if Jalal felt she had overdone the Rashid Khan sacking. Hope Jalal says "Thank you for your services, but you are forthwith relieved of your duties!" I know he won't say that but I hope one day soon he will.
* I loved one thing which I want to point out ... I think it's a really good thing that as soon as Ruq stuffs Salim's ears with advice like "The praja should be afraid of your guroor and give you respect as a walihaad", Jalal is almost in the very next episode giving Salim the opposite advice to honour the praja. No wonder Jodha's eyes glazed over in happiness. The Creatives had tweeted that Ruq will try but not be successful in her chaals. So I hope they are going to maintain this pattern whereby even if Ruq tres to spoil Salim, Jodha and Jalal unravel her saazishes almost immediately.
* I loved the Akbar Ka Makabra scene idea to show that Jodha was impressed with the way Jalal taught Salim his daku-lesson. But Jalal also says one ominous sentence: "Yes Salim learnt a lot but we both didn't know that life would teach us a very big lesson very soon". Oh gosh, another big blowup to be expected soon? Is it about the precap and Ruq trying to throw a blackmail on Jalal and Jodha ... or is it going to be something else? Will they find out about the drugging of Salim?
* Finally, I loved the starting scene of Jodha singing the bhajan for Kanha and doing the aarti, and the way little Salim was attending the prayer with his hands folded, and how later Jalal also came to join the prayers. Although I am heartily sick of the song "hey man mohan" still the scene was cute and very heartwarming! What a happy family they would be if there was no other wicked witch in the story! Sigh!
Folks, thanks for all those who wrote good wishes for the members of my family who are down with virus. My Mom's okay, and I am okay ... but my daughter is still a bit down. Meanwhile our dog is jealous of the attention my daughter is getting and is behaving like Ruq! That's the latest medical bulletin!
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SindhuMenon thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks Mansi for the wonderful update. Hope Your daughter gets well soon too.

Agree for a change it was an okay episode if we do not think about what all had happened in the past. Now we just have to take one episode at a time and go from there. Few minutes back I watched it online and as you said it was good for a change to see JJ and Salim together minus Ruks.

Ayaan as Salim is super cute and adorable, I love him so much. As you mentioned I also liked how Jalal discussed with Jodha about the incident.

Regarding Jalal's teda way, no comments here Mansi. He had very valid points but I could not connect to it at all. For me one of the main reason I guess is every time I look at Salim, Ruks drugging comes to my mind and then I get so angry and irritated with both Jalal and Jodha. From the Precap, I can already see Jodha requesting Ruks to stay and not withdraw from her powers and same thing will go on and on.

I dont think JJ will ever find out Salim being drugged.
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Thanks Mansi for the wonderful update. Agree for a change it was an okay episode if we do not think about what all had happened in the past. Now we just have to take one episode at a time and go from there. Few minutes back I watched it online and as you said it was good for a change to see JJ and Salim together minus Ruks.

Ayaan as Salim is super cute and adorable, I love him so much. As you mentioned I also liked how Jalal discussed with Jodha about the incident.

Regarding Jalal's teda way, no comments here Mansi. He had very valid points but I could not connect to it at all. For me one of the main reason I guess is every time I look at Salim, Ruks drugging comes to my mind and then I get so angry and irritated with both Jalal and Jodha. From the Precap, I can already see Jodha requesting Ruks to stay and not withdraw from her powers and same thing will go on and on.

Sindhu, it would be a whole lot different if Jalal advised Salim BEFORE Ruq spoilt Salim's mind! Here Jalal is always one step behind, and so Ruq seems to get away with dirtying the child's pure mind!
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Sindhu, it would be a whole lot different if Jalal advised Salim BEFORE Ruq spoilt Salim's mind! Here Jalal is always one step behind, and so Ruq seems to get away with dirtying the child's pure mind!



Agree with you Mansi.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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A very good analysis of an apparently positive episode, Mansi.
I have only one thing to share. No Rukaiyya, no drugs = positivity for me. As long as the Creatives maintain one important aspect of not repeating the drugging act again, I'll be happy. The storyline has already been ruined beyond repair, no changes can bring the lost old charm back.

Jalal advised little Salim to tackle Rukaiyya shrewdly, I wish he would first set an example for the little Prince, by doing so, himself. It is high time he puts his 'tedapan' to good use and punishes Rukaiyya for all her vile acts. Salim would benefit from his act, so would the viewers.



Charu.
Edited by Charu.S - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Mansi di 😊 , good to know that ur fine , tc of ur daughter too 😊
Regarding yest episode , I felt that makbara scene was to intend salim's decision of war against him for anarkali or his love for anarkali 😲 , and that advice of jalal to salim looked blah for me as he himself has never said anything against his bachpan ka dost despite all the khaands and saazhishes 🤢
Other than that his idea was good , but his sudden tedaness at this place was something annoying n disapproving for me as he has never done this b4 with his BEK 🤢 , kher something is better than nothing !!! And I wish he uses this tedaness often and find out salim's drugging part too 😕 , this way atleast viewers can get some shanthi now 😭
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Originally posted by: Charu.S

A very good analysis of an apparently positive episode, Mansi.

I have only one thing to share. No Rukaiyya, no drugs = positivity for me. As long as the Creatives maintain one important aspect of not repeating the drugging act again, I'll be happy. The storyline has already been ruined beyond repair, no changes can bring the lost old charm back.

Jalal advised little Salim to tackle Rukaiyya shrewdly, I wish he would first set an example for the little Prince, by doing so, himself. It is high time he puts his 'tedapan' to good use and punishes Rukaiyya for all her vile acts. Salim would benefit from his act, so would the viewers.

I found your dog's jealousy rather cute😊, please do not compare the cutie dog with Rukaiyya.
I have two yellow labs who rule the household.



Charu.

Edited by Charu.S - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Charu.S

A very good analysis of an apparently positive episode, Mansi.

I have only one thing to share. No Rukaiyya, no drugs = positivity for me. As long as the Creatives maintain one important aspect of not repeating the drugging act again, I'll be happy. The storyline has already been ruined beyond repair, no changes can bring back the lost old charm back.

Jalal advised little Salim to tackle Rukaiyya shrewdly, I wish he would first set an example for the little Prince, by doing so, himself. It is high time he puts his 'tedapan' to good use and punishes Rukaiyya for all her vile acts. Salim would benefit from his act, so would the viewers.



Charu.

Correct Charu, no point Jalal giving bhashans, he should practice what he preaches!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Dear Mansi,
Good to know that your family is in good health now.And how is your four legged " Ruku"? Is he a Pomeranian ? They are one jealous breeds.😆Jalal's idea of fake attack to see whether Salim has in in him to even lift the sword ,was a good one.But his advice to his young son that we can lie according to the situation was not really good.Because Salim is a small boy and he won't understand what his father wanted to convey but in his memory his fathers words that " we can lie " will be etched forever.Hope these words won't come as boomerang for Jalal one day.
And how can Salim even think of answering Ruku when he has seen his Badi Ammi almost insulting every one and all the members in the family right from Mariam Makani Hamida Bano to Mariam zamani and Shehenshah himself ,are speechless in front of her.All the kids must be thinking that Ruku is the one to be feared.
Jalal should handle Ruku in his own way if he really has guts in him .
Edited by Rashmi81 - 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suganya.S

Hey Mansi di 😊 , good to know that ur fine , tc of ur daughter too 😊
Regarding yest episode , I felt that makbara scene was to intend salim's decision of war against him for anarkali or his love for anarkali 😲 , and that advice of jalal to salim looked blah for me as he himself has never said anything against his bachpan ka dost despite all the khaands and saazhishes 🤢
Other than that his idea was good , but his sudden tedaness at this place was something annoying n disapproving for me as he has never done this b4 with his BEK 🤢 , kher something is better than nothing !!! And I wish he uses this tedaness often and find out salim's drugging part too 😕 , this way atleast viewers can get some shanthi now 😭

Suganya, it can happen that sometimes some people are good with seeing what is the problem of others but they don't see the same problem in relation to themselves. Here Jalal may see Ruq as negative as seen from the eyes of salim, but when he sees Ruq with his own eyes, he only sees "bachpan ka dost"!

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