haha..slowly u il be able to deaddict from this show...future tracks il make u quit this show..worry not
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haha..slowly u il be able to deaddict from this show...future tracks il make u quit this show..worry not
Originally posted by: Cleo12345
Hey Maddy, happy Diwali sweetheart. Waiting for hubby to be back so we can start Laxmi poojan, light Diyas and candles, and have my favorite prasad( besan laddu and kaju katli)...I have allowed myself to gain 2-3 kgs tonite...I think I can afford it without having to drastically change my wardrobe.JA...as you know I stopped watching it months back. Occasionally watch the scenes " highly recommended" by you and a few other friends...I check the forum when I can for two reasons1. Awesome writers on this forum...some are too good...wonder why they arn't publishing their work.2. Curosity...how long will this serial survive with the kind of product they are offering? IF members are clearly becoming disinterested...how long will it take for the TRP aunties to lose their cool?It seems that most of my friends, who are gifted writers as well as loyal JA supporters, are tired of this crap. I religiously read your threads...and do my best to not miss threads/posts by Radhika, Abhay, Pals, Choco, Sindhu, Charu ( both) and many other friends( wish they send a PM when they make a new thread or a long post)...Abhay, please shoot an email when you update your blog...I must admit that I secretly feel that you guys are talented writers and are wasting your energy and time on this show...the concept is fascinating( I was an addict) ...but the presentation over the last few months is way below average...we continue to hope that the next track will be better...cant blame the viewers...they are normal people with no signs or symptoms of sadism or masochism ...but soon even the most positive, patient and loyal viewers will have to accept that this show is not meant for well read, well informed, analytical and intelligent people... Guys, I salute your loyalty...you love J and J and continue to support the show when the showmakers are not really giving you any reason to do so... really your loyalty, patience and resilience is praiseworthy ( I am not blessed with these traits unfortunately).The show has turned into a disgusting joke (based on the updates I read)... I refuse to waste my grey cells on any psychoanalysis...the characters are unrealistic, poorly written with no consistency...negativity and favoritism seem to be the only rules being followed while writing scenes, dialogues or alloting screen space...Ruk's character and the lack of common sense shown by other characters while dealing with her is the ultimate test of my patience...ridiculous...risible...preposterous...nonsensical ...ludicrous...vexatious and highly aggravating... I am runniing out of words to describe this character ( supposedly fictional) who has managed to make a rather stubborn viewer like me to fold my hands and tell EK and her team..." I give up...You win...this stupidity is a torture that I refuse to accept. Life is good...let it stay that way...I do not share your fascination for negativity".Chittor war...another feather in EK team's " we are morons" cap. These CVs are clearly people with below average intellegence who are suited for making below average, cliche, brainless shows which appeal to a certain segment of population. Historicals is not their cup of tea. I used to feel that they have managed to soften people's opinion on Emperor Akbar...showed his human side...I always liked Akbar for his intellegence, shrewdness and battle skills...but saw him as a foriegn invader( like most other people from north India who are familiar with the important events in Mughal history... Let us admit...he, despite his achievements is not an emperor who rules the hearts and minds of all indians...for resaons like the Chittor genocide)... It is difficult for anyone who has made an effort to know the real history of Chittor without a bias to accept EK's version of Chittor genocide...anyone who claims that Chittor was anything but a genocide as a result of greed for power and expansion is trying to fool themselves and others...I understand that Akbar is the hero in this show and they have to glorify him so that people less informed in history as well as those who refuse to see him as anything but a saint and Jodha's lover, find it difficult to accept that he had a dark side...a very dark side...the trp aunties who dream of him (and the actor playing his character) as their lover and knight in shining armor will find it very difficult to accept him as a religious fanatic who ordered the killing of thousands of people because of his lust for power and desire to establish the superiority of one religion over another...it makes us question if the " secular" behavior in the initial years of his regime was a result of political ambitions...I always had this question in my mind but chose to give him the benefit of the doubt and not probe it any further...but EK and teams attempt to justify the reason for Chittor genocide (and the child- mother BS they are showing to highlight his human side is aggravating for those who are familiar with he real history of Chittor ( I am not talking about the handful with underlying bias " thou can do no wrong" fans) ...sorry guys but I have had the misfortune of reading A LOT about Chittor...started as a curious kid exploring the library in my ancesteral home... I, like many others, fell for Jodha's Jalal after watching the movie and the first few months of the show...started believing ( still do) that he wasnt a monster and had had a human side...but after reading about the way EK and team tried to " justify" his Chittor attack..I felt disgusted... the cooked up emotional reasons shown in the show were not the real reason for Chittor massacre...EK version followers are free to disagree...I won't waste my time proving anything...those who want to read an unbiased version will find sources...someone has posted the translation of Akbar's real Farman before Chittor battle...I remember first reading about it as well as the brutal deatils of the massacare as a curious kid exploring my grandfather's book collection...it was enough to pique my interest...everything I read after that confirmed that Chittor seige resulted in a genocide...numbers rule...the farmaan post refreshed everything...for those who wish to believe EK's version of Saint Akbar are free to do so...we are a free country...I read and respect their POV...do not agree but respect the fact that we all have a reason to believe the facts based on our knowledge and sources...I was tempted to report JA ( to the RIGHT organizations who have better things to do than follow EK's daily soap)...but stopped myself...viewers memory is short...6 months later, they won't remember the details of EKs chittor genocide version which does not depict the horrors of that battle and the brutality of attackers...but if it becomes an issue, this forgettable show will get more publicity than it deserves. These morons are on the right path...suicide mission...let them get busy with Salim, Anarkali and Akbar love triangle with a Ruk centric story. This will be a more delightful project for the writers of the show (keeping their sick psyche and paucity of intellect, knowledge and talent in mind) . They can continue to show each and every juicy detail of torture and murders of all innocent babies in Agra. Isn't it fun to watch such revolting, stomach churning and off-putting things on screen(EK team seems to believe that) ? And then using that as a reason to justify the savage and barbaric killing of thousands is exhilarating...JA is a masterpiece. If this was EK's dream project...I don't want to know what her nightmares are like.
Originally posted by: Cleo12345
Hey Maddy, happy Diwali sweetheart. Waiting for hubby to be back so we can start Laxmi poojan, light Diyas and candles, and have my favorite prasad( besan laddu and kaju katli)...I have allowed myself to gain 2-3 kgs tonite...I think I can afford it without having to drastically change my wardrobe.JA...as you know I stopped watching it months back. Occasionally watch the scenes " highly recommended" by you and a few other friends...I check the forum when I can for two reasons1. Awesome writers on this forum...some are too good...wonder why they arn't publishing their work.2. Curosity...how long will this serial survive with the kind of product they are offering? IF members are clearly becoming disinterested...how long will it take for the TRP aunties to lose their cool?It seems that most of my friends, who are gifted writers as well as loyal JA supporters, are tired of this crap. I religiously read your threads...and do my best to not miss threads/posts by Radhika, Abhay, Pals, Choco, Sindhu, Charu ( both) and many other friends( wish they send a PM when they make a new thread or a long post)...Abhay, please shoot an email when you update your blog...I must admit that I secretly feel that you guys are talented writers and are wasting your energy and time on this show...the concept is fascinating( I was an addict) ...but the presentation over the last few months is way below average...we continue to hope that the next track will be better...cant blame the viewers...they are normal people with no signs or symptoms of sadism or masochism...but soon even the most positive, patient and loyal viewers will have to accept that this show is not meant forwell read, well informed, analytical and intelligent people... Guys, I salute your loyalty...you love J and J and continue to support the show when the showmakers are not really giving you any reason to do so... really your loyalty, patience and resilience is praiseworthy ( I am not blessed with these traits unfortunately).The show has turned into a disgusting joke (based on the updates I read)... I refuse to waste my grey cells on any psychoanalysis...the characters are unrealistic, poorly written with no consistency...negativity and favoritism seem to be the only rules being followed while writing scenes, dialogues or alloting screen space...Ruk's character and the lack of common sense shown by other characters while dealing with her is the ultimate test of my patience...ridiculous...risible...preposterous...nonsensical ...ludicrous...vexatious and highly aggravating... I am runniing out of words to describe this character ( supposedly fictional) who has managed to make a rather stubborn viewer like me to fold my hands and tell EK and her team..." I give up...You win...this stupidity is a torture that I refuse to accept. Life is good...let it stay that way...I do not share your fascination for negativity".Chittor war...another feather in EK team's " we are morons" cap. These CVs are clearly people with below average intellegence who are suited for making below average, cliche, brainless shows which appeal to a certain segment of population. Historicals is not their cup of tea. I used to feel that they have managed to soften people's opinion on Emperor Akbar...showed his human side...I always liked Akbar for his intellegence, shrewdness and battle skills...but saw him as a foriegn invader( like most other people from north India who are familiar with the important events in Mughal history... Let us admit...he, despite his achievements is not an emperor who rules the hearts and minds of all indians...for resaons like the Chittor genocide)... It is difficult for anyone who has made an effort to know the real history of Chittor without a bias to accept EK's version of Chittor genocide...anyonewho claims that Chittor was anything but a genocide as a result of greed for power and expansion is trying to fool themselves and others...I understand that Akbar is the hero in this show and they have to glorify him so that people less informed in history as well as those who refuse to see him as anything but a saint and Jodha's lover, find it difficult to accept that he had a dark side...a very dark side...the trp aunties who dream of him (and the actor playing his character) as their lover and knight in shining armor will find it very difficult to accept him as a religious fanatic who ordered the killing of thousands of people because of his lust for power and desire to establish the superiority of one religion over another...it makes us question if the " secular" behavior in the initial years of his regime was a result of political ambitions...I always had this question in my mind but chose to give him the benefit of the doubt and not probe it any further...but EK and teams attempt to justify the reason for Chittor genocide (and the child- mother BS they are showing to highlight his human side is aggravating for those who are familiar with he real history of Chittor ( I am not talking about the handful with underlying bias " thou can do no wrong" fans) ...sorry guys but I have had the misfortune of reading A LOT about Chittor...started as a curious kid exploring the library in my ancesteral home... I, like many others, fell for Jodha's Jalal after watching the movie and the first few months of the show...started believing ( still do) that he wasnt a monster and had had a human side...but after reading about the way EK and team tried to " justify" his Chittor attack..I felt disgusted... the cooked up emotional reasons shown in the show were not the real reason for Chittor massacre...EK version followersare free to disagree...I won't waste my time proving anything...those who want to read an unbiased version will find sources...someone has posted the translation of Akbar's real Farman before Chittor battle...I remember first reading about it as well as the brutal deatils of the massacare as a curious kid exploring my grandfather's book collection...it was enough to pique my interest...everything I read after that confirmed that Chittor seige resulted in a genocide...numbers rule...the farmaan post refreshed everything...for those who wish to believe EK's version of Saint Akbar are free to do so...we are a free country...I read and respect their POV...do not agree but respect the fact that we all have a reason to believe the facts based on our knowledge and sources...I was tempted to report JA ( to the RIGHT organizations who have better things to do than follow EK's daily soap)...but stopped myself...viewers memory is short...6 months later, they won't remember the details of EKs chittor genocide version which does not depict the horrors of that battle and the brutality of attackers...but if it becomes an issue, this forgettable show will get more publicity than it deserves. These morons are on the right path...suicide mission...let them get busy with Salim, Anarkali and Akbar love triangle with a Ruk centric story. This will be a more delightful project for the writers of the show (keeping their sick psyche and paucity of intellect, knowledge and talent in mind) . They can continue to show each and every juicy detail of torture and murders of all innocent babies in Agra. Isn't it fun to watch such revolting, stomach churning and off-putting things on screen(EK team seems to believe that) ? And then using that as a reason to justify the savage and barbaric killing of thousands is exhilarating...JA is a masterpiece. If this was EK's dream project...I don't want to know what her nightmares are like.
Happy Healthy & Prosperous Diwali to you and your family. So your gorged on Kaju Katli and besan laddos - both my favorites too. 😆
Bang on post - I agree with each and every word - nothing I can add.
It is like they are hell bent on destroying JA
I feel there is no love from Jalal - he was pretending to get waris and now will stop even that pretense
This is why he can never do anything against Ruk even after she got his twins killed. Pathetic spineless Jalal and Jodha both
Line in bold - if Ekta dream is giving us nightmares and nausea - I shudder to think about her nightmares!
Originally posted by: history_geek
Cleo, Maddy and all...
I hope you had a nice Diwali, And my heartfelt wishes for Goverdhan also. :)
I had not seen the episode but after reading this WU, and the nonsense called "Repentance cum Charity cum Community service in Chittor and people of Chittor shown accepting it ALSO", i was robbed of my patience, and decided to post a comment.
Now what can i say.?. Didn't i say many times, Ekta will experiment on this issue also and here also will use her "OWN Fabricated events"...Since, the starting we have a Saint Akbar in this show. No matter how much this show is treated HERE as being the one with a heroine halo, but the fact remains, Ekta did a very good job for Akbar...I normally do not bother much about the normal debate here , that who was right and who was wrong, but try to look at the bigger picture..I will agree with you , this show had a lot of positive effect about Akbar on the masses...His image in masses(general public) came out as one being different from the other Mughals, which was NOT the case before..Not all in general public, know about removal of pilgrim tax and that Jaziya removal..Or his military reforms...
Few months back, Sent a petition to Zee about this show's improvement..And did a survey for that along with my Friends among the masses in 5-6 cities.. I could see the findings...Clearly, Akbar's POSITIVE IMAGE is the winner of this show...I had no qualms with it..I was telling the same to Tamy on Radhika's thread that i will scan a document and send her...It was about this only...I cant tell you, how much efforts i did from my end for the improvement of this show SILENTLY, but as we know it's all the decision of PH/Channel. I dont think they care for us...
But of late, the OTT and WRONG justification of many tracks created a bitter taste about the show and Ekta...Tell me WTH did she get an idea to show, Chittor accepting help from Akbar, while the reality is so grotesque and exactly opposite, she has made a Ashoka out of Akbar..Radhika said this point last week in her new thread...She was right...
@Cleo...You are spot on about the details you got in your ancestral library, and i guess, this has nothing to do with your/your relatives' PHD in History, as you are a well settled researcher in another field.. You don't need to be a history professor to know all the details. I hope i am right.?. Reading about past, is a hobby for some, i myself included, and don't need a PHD for that. 😉
Won't discuss the history part here, will update my views on blog later..
I find it hard to agree that this track was to DESTROY Akbar. Since, starting of this show, she had shown the tussle between MP in Jalal, even in the Sukanya marriage track, which was last year October and "conditions" were pretty much different then..Since starting, she decided to cash in on the popularity of these two rivals/legends, and hence she had to show this war, but without making her lead suffer...Had she decided to destroy Akbar, Ekta could have shown a lot of things, which are not fit to be written here, but she left all that part, instead she has given a FALSE reason for this attack and tried her BEST to justify Akbar. If this was an attempt to destroy Akbar, then she would not have shown another nonsense , that is , repent of Akbar that too for 3 years, as per our show...!!!!!.. The track became totally unbearable when she showed yesterday, Akbar offering help in Chittor...😲.🥱 Reality was opposite, Chittor was devastated to the CORE. And his all that repent. I wonder if she knows what was the state of Mewar economy, the famines, the outburst of diseases after that war for decades. She has shown totally opposite. Sheer nonsense..This makes me think if she HAD to destroy Akbar..I don't agree..!!..
I am as broken as you all, by the downfall of this show. I never watched a Hindi Show continuously , but only a historical and too only PRC..And hoped the same here also, but Ekta has crossed all limits this time..She did the unthinkable just to prove/justify all actions of her lead which she has always done in this show...The rush upto Diwali to show Salim was too much...Let us see what happens now..LEts see till RT and PS are here, or i dont know if we will be able to bear till then also...
Always we have Ruqayya shouting her heart out + She gets the New dresses after dresses as if she has some special contract signed..🤢 The deplorable treatment is given to the MAIN Leads and the rest go on with VIP settlement...I was shocked to read that jalal said all those words to Ruqayya as per Maddy's update but still said she will remain her Friend..😆.😕.🥱.
I feel happy for Akbar, and also for the story of JA, which this show brought to all of us. But, at the same time feel terrible for the mockery Ekta has made of Chittor.. It was an insult to those people which she had shown in yesterday's episode...Was too much of Akbar justification..!!!!..""3 years repentance + Help to them""..!!!!...😳...Not my cup of Tea..It's good i did not watch the episode...!!!!.
Thanks for the update Maddy...
Originally posted by: history_geek
Cleo, Maddy and all...
I hope you had a nice Diwali, And my heartfelt wishes for Goverdhan also. :)
I had not seen the episode but after reading this WU, and the nonsense called "Repentance cum Charity cum Community service in Chittor and people of Chittor shown accepting it ALSO", i was robbed of my patience, and decided to post a comment.
Now what can i say.?. Didn't i say many times, Ekta will experiment on this issue also and here also will use her "OWN Fabricated events"...Since, the starting we have a Saint Akbar in this show. No matter how much this show is treated HERE as being the one with a heroine halo, but the fact remains, Ekta did a very good job for Akbar...I normally do not bother much about the normal debate here , that who was right and who was wrong, but try to look at the bigger picture..I will agree with you , this show had a lot of positive effect about Akbar on the masses...His image in masses(general public) came out as one being different from the other Mughals, which was NOT the case before..Not all in general public, know about removal of pilgrim tax and that Jaziya removal..Or his military reforms...
Few months back, Sent a petition to Zee about this show's improvement..And did a survey for that along with my Friends among the masses in 5-6 cities.. I could see the findings...Clearly, Akbar's POSITIVE IMAGE is the winner of this show...I had no qualms with it..I was telling the same to Tamy on Radhika's thread that i will scan a document and send her...It was about this only...I cant tell you, how much efforts i did from my end for the improvement of this show SILENTLY, but as we know it's all the decision of PH/Channel. I dont think they care for us...
But of late, the OTT and WRONG justification of many tracks created a bitter taste about the show and Ekta...Tell me WTH did she get an idea to show, Chittor accepting help from Akbar, while the reality is so grotesque and exactly opposite, she has made a Ashoka out of Akbar..Radhika said this point last week in her new thread...She was right...
@Cleo...You are spot on about the details you got in your ancestral library, and i guess, this has nothing to do with your/your relatives' PHD in History, as you are a well settled researcher in another field.. You don't need to be a history professor to know all the details. I hope i am right.?. Reading about past, is a hobby for some, i myself included, and don't need a PHD for that. 😉
Won't discuss the history part here, will update my views on blog later..
I find it hard to agree that this track was to DESTROY Akbar. Since, starting of this show, she had shown the tussle between MP in Jalal, even in the Sukanya marriage track, which was last year October and "conditions" were pretty much different then..Since starting, she decided to cash in on the popularity of these two rivals/legends, and hence she had to show this war, but without making her lead suffer...Had she decided to destroy Akbar, Ekta could have shown a lot of things, which are not fit to be written here, but she left all that part, instead she has given a FALSE reason for this attack and tried her BEST to justify Akbar. If this was an attempt to destroy Akbar, then she would not have shown another nonsense , that is , repent of Akbar that too for 3 years, as per our show...!!!!!.. The track became totally unbearable when she showed yesterday, Akbar offering help in Chittor...😲.🥱 Reality was opposite, Chittor was devastated to the CORE. And his all that repent. I wonder if she knows what was the state of Mewar economy, the famines, the outburst of diseases after that war for decades. She has shown totally opposite. Sheer nonsense..This makes me think if she HAD to destroy Akbar..I don't agree..!!..
I am as broken as you all, by the downfall of this show. I never watched a Hindi Show continuously , but only a historical and too only PRC..And hoped the same here also, but Ekta has crossed all limits this time..She did the unthinkable just to prove/justify all actions of her lead which she has always done in this show...The rush upto Diwali to show Salim was too much...Let us see what happens now..LEts see till RT and PS are here, or i dont know if we will be able to bear till then also...
Always we have Ruqayya shouting her heart out + She gets the New dresses after dresses as if she has some special contract signed..🤢 The deplorable treatment is given to the MAIN Leads and the rest go on with VIP settlement...I was shocked to read that jalal said all those words to Ruqayya as per Maddy's update but still said she will remain her Friend..😆.😕.🥱.
I feel happy for Akbar, and also for the story of JA, which this show brought to all of us. But, at the same time feel terrible for the mockery Ekta has made of Chittor.. It was an insult to those people which she had shown in yesterday's episode...Was too much of Akbar justification..!!!!..""3 years repentance + Help to them""..!!!!...😳...Not my cup of Tea..It's good i did not watch the episode...!!!!.
Thanks for the update Maddy...
Originally posted by: indudolai
Nyc post maddy...no wrds to say abt JA anymore...no strength ...hope ashoka will be a relief to me...I hope pari get a new show atleast a saas bhau serial where her hubby will feel secure abt their marriage. ...pheww I guess m gng bonkers!
PS: who gonna be ashoka?Hope ekta is not producing it🤪
defenitely not ekta... so u can relax... i think same production house of Maharana pratap in colours..in starplus its swastik..starplus mahabarat PH house
no news about the actor..lets see..