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Posted: 11 years ago
#31
Guys I am just transferring my post from the JA Oct 13 thread...Hope this provides some comfort to you guys😊

Originally posted by: lasyap3

@ all


Guys please be calm and keep watching Jodha Akbar...it's mere a daily soap..and increasing our BP's for this is totally useless...This is EK's show and what decent can we expect?huh?🤔

Please be positive and happy..😊

P.S:Please make your nerves steel...and don't get angry...😕I understand that there is lot of negativity in the people and the forum, but please relax and I request you all to please again don't forget that it's a serial...🥱

Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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Guys, In my next seven posts, I am going to focus on some important things, in which probably, all of us, would try to find the answers for the questions,that have been buzzing in the forum...

-->> Are we seeing a circus show, in the name of so called Magnum Opus "Jodha Akbar"

-->> Is Jalal's behaviour justified?Is this fair on his part to hold Jodha responsible for the loss?

-->> What the hell is the whole team doing?Creatives,Script writers,Dialogues and Screenplay?

-->> How far is EK wholly responsible for this fiasco?

-->> What about all those loose ends?Missing celebrities...

-->> How far are these CVs going to slaughter the history, just for the sake of NR?Silly...

-->> Yeh sab kuch kitna bhaari padne waala hai...and the other snippets...

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-->> Are we seeing a circus show, in the name of so called Magnum Opus "Jodha Akbar"


Okay, tell me one thing you CVs, which CIRCUS are we seeing??👏

Gemini, Bombay or the Asian Circus?Oh, for God's sake don't again say that our show is the top show of the channel(GTH ,you Zee man !!)😡

This is not a mere entertainment show...we as audience do expect something...Better tracks,screenplay,outdoor shooting...for the so called NUMBER ONE SHOW

I don't want to humiliate those people...But seriously...these makeover and costumes are making me sick day by day...🤢

This is a show which needs to have some decent outfits and royale makeover for the kings and queens..

"A makeover is the rebranding of a human being."

Oh my, I am just sick of this now...How come Hamida was wearing the same costumes on the day of demise of twins and in Friday's episode?Well Gulbadan bechaari has got only one suit for her...Accha chhodo, leads ka hi jab itna bura haal hai, toh parallel actors ke liye kya expect karein?😆

The makeup looks so sulky...whatever may be the situation...especially the leads. Kamse kum situation ke hisaab se makeover karna chahiye..Jab dekho wahi same sulky makeup..Fire the makeup artiste'. 😡

I don't know why Ruqaiyya manages to find her attire and look always convincing than the leads??😕
But somehow, Ruqaiyya is better in this aspect...😕

I feel that there is a urgent need of new jewellery and costumes for our leads...It is pathetic to see them like this..Jodha has been wearing her each part of her limited jewellery in permutations and combinations.
Atleast, please bring back her old ones, if you are not able to get new ones...this applies even for Jalal too.🥱

Was it necessary to provide MP a new attire,when he was although going to hide himself??Uske badle Jalal ko ek naya wala diya hota...aankhe taras rahi hain yaar..

Aisa lagta hi nahi ki it's a MAGNUM OPUS(???)The royal couple don't have the royal looks...

What's your problem?Belonging to such a PH,with a good budget, dhang ke outfit nahi de sakte kya aap log leads ko?Other shows are doing much better,in this aspect (not taking names😉)

P.S: Applying unnecessary lipstick and Kohl to Jalal,just to show us that he has turned grey,doesn't make sense...this blunder was noticeable at different camera angles,the kohl being with different intensities at different shots..😆


This Jalal and Jodha are needed back!!ASAP !!










Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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-->> Is Jalal's behaviour justified?Is this fair on his part to hold Jodha responsible for the loss?


Is this fair on Jalal's part to blame Jodha for the death of Hussein?How far,one will take out one's angst on others who are innocent?

Well,scapegoating is a human tendency...as I have mentioned in my previous post on JA oct 13 thread. Blaming others to get rid of one's own guilt is something which is very poignant.


That moment came as a thunderbolt to Jodha when Jalal asked her that -- Should he hold her guilty for Hussein's death?(as if she was the only one wholly responsible for this..) "Kya hum aapke iss khamoshi ko aapki razamandi samjhe?"


"We cultivate love when we allow our most vulnerable and powerful selves to be deeply seen and known, and when we honor the spiritual connection that grows from that offering with trust, respect, kindness and affection.
Love is not something we give or get; it is something that we nurture and grow, a connection that can only be cultivated between two people when it exists within each one of them - we can only love others as much as we love ourselves.
Shame, blame, disrespect, betrayal, and the withholding of affection damage the roots from which love grows. Love can only survive these injuries if they are acknowledged, healed and rare."

This was really unfair on his part, to part ways from Jodha like this.He is holding his Mohabbat,responsible for the child's death.Whatever happened was destined to be.Even if Jodha had been there,Zeenat, who had the firm intention,must have took another chance to finish off her task...Regarding their Mohabbat, that night, both are responsible for that.


"I was still searching for someone to blame for my suffering. I really wanted someone to transfer my hate to, so that I could stop hating myself."

We habitually erect a barrier called blame that keeps us from communicating genuinely with others, and we fortify it with our concepts of who's right and who's wrong. We do that with the people who are closest to us ,with all kinds of things that we don't like about our associates or our society.
It is a very common, ancient, well-perfected device for trying to feel better. Blame others...Blaming is a way to protect your heart, trying to protect what is soft and open and tender in yourself. Rather than own that pain, we scramble to find some comfortable ground.
Blaming others is an act of refusing to take responsibility. When a person can't accept the fact or the reality, they blamed another person or the situation instead of taking accountability.
So was Jalal, wanted to take out his agony of him not being able to save his children, and hence found the whipping boy.

"I started wondering if God really existed. The world seemed too empty and lonely for there to be a God in it. But I figured he must exist because I kept blaming everything on him."

Now we know that with whom, Jalal was exactly angry with...the Omnipotent. Kisi aur keliye gussa kisi aur per utaarna kahan tak jaayaz hain? Khuda ko saabit karne keliye...usne haivaan ban ne ki thaan li hai...

People that hold onto hate for so long do so because they want to avoid dealing with their pain. They falsely believe if they forgive they are letting their enemy believe they are a doormat. What they don't understand is hatred can't be isolated or turned off. It manifests in their health, choices and belief systems. Their values and religious beliefs make adjustments to justify their negative emotions. Not unlike malware infesting a hard drive, their spirit slowly becomes corrupted and they make choices that don't make logical sense to others. Hatred left unaddressed will crash a person's spirit. The only thing he or she can do is to reboot, by fixing him or herself, not others. This might require installing a firewall of boundaries or parental controls on their emotions. Regardless of the approach, we are all connected on this "network of life" and each of us is responsible for cleaning up our spiritual registry.

My sincere advice to Jalal:::

"It's time to care; it's time to take responsibility; it's time to lead; it's time for a change; it's time to be true to our greatest self; it's time to stop blaming others."
Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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-->> What the hell is the whole team doing?Creatives,Script writers,Dialogues and Screenplay?

Screenplay,Cinematography,Editors,Creatives and Directors--Peep in !!(need this for the actors too!)

What's wrong with these people...It has been ages since we saw Diwaan e Aam...Each and everything is being only kept upto the DEK...What is this??

What about the other places??Does the set in Karjat has only these places to be shown??What about remaining places(I agree that we get to see one garden that has many names,for which we are being fooled by different camera angles, Jalal's sword fighting place..)

>>The most boring DEK🥱

>>The same old courtyard where all the cheap and poor graphics are shown for the assembly of the mob or the soldiers..😆

>>Both Jalaal & Jodha's Hojra

>>Ammijaan's Hojra

>>Rarely,Salima Begum's Hojra(It is evident that it is the same room)

>>Ruqaiyya's Khwaabgah.Now this is very interesting.Did you guys notice that when Ruqaiyya had enacted the fake pregnancy drama,her hojra was interchanged with Bakshi's.Now it seems she has got a one similar to that of Ammijaan's hojra..Great isn't it??
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>>The stinky furniture everywhere being recycled...
(I don't want any new ones...if you have a budget problem for this from the PH(Balaji Telefilms??) I have a solution for this.Please get them modified atleast, so that we might not be able to notice them again🥱)

I don't understand why these are so foolish and absent minded (??)Or is this all due to different creatives and directors taking the jobs and hence mixing up everything ugly? )
If that is the case, what the editors are doing??Can't they just try to take care of these things?These might be very small things..but onscreen having such bloopers for 'n' number of times is something so irritating for a keen observer like me...🥱

No OUTDOOR man!! I know there is a WAR ahead...but just to wipe the tears of people who need some action sequences...I would be relieved if I don't get to see THOSE graphics again..😆

Arre bhai apne kaam main man lagao...tab acche result aayenge..Your ratings are droping!!🥱

Look guys!! If you don't give us proper promos(which are either misleading,fake or dreams😆) then...this not going to get you long..😡

Dialogues

Not proper all the time...Need changes..Sometimes they are miserable...sometimes are wonderful,mood swings eh?😆

P.S: I think actors can even take care of small things like, if they are doing continuous scenes then they can just remember these small things like which jewellery and costumes they were wearing??And this would not result in leads wearing two different pieces of clothing or jewellery in one scene or sometimes the exchange itself!!😲(Like between sisters of Jodha,which is fine upto some extent,err, but Jalal wearing Jodha's ring at the time of her FP was something which cracked me up😆)

Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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-->> How far is EK wholly responsible for this fiasco?

Firstly I thought of writing the facts here(Abhay😉)and wanted to pour out my anger...But I don't want to put this thread into trouble..😊

Now I am just going to say a few words, because,the less said,much better..

"The most dangerous of all falsehoods is a slightly distorted truth."

This is sick man!!!This not at all fair,on your part, to mercilessly slaughter history,very conveniently,for your NR.. 😡

IF YOU HAVE NO CAPABILITIES (I could use more intense words here,but I am majboor) OF SHOWING THE RAW FACTS,ATLEAST THE POLISHED FACTS...you need not take the RISK(??) of showing slaughtered and distorted form of History...

Please don't take the pain of showing such things...You can conveniently skip those..we have no problem🥱

For heaven's sake,please stop showing such indecent content...It's not worthy of watching with kids...and please this is not at all a FAMILY SHOW...which is supposedly airing in that time..

@Abhay
It happens with me too.I being a professionally trained classical carnatic music singer ,sometimes get irritated with people,who repeatedly sing the wrong lyrics or notes,without even knowing or attempting to learn the right thing...😆

Same is the case with you too...Even us,being ardent fans of history...
Please don't loose your cool...😊
Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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-->> How far is EK wholly responsible for this fiasco?


Let me just make it clear to everyone that I am not taking her side nor just cursing her for everything...


Well we know that she is referred to as the Czarina of tele world...😆 She has been very famous for her most nasty tracks and storylines...the SAAS BAHU sagas and her unpleasant twists and unnecessary drama...😆


I wonder whether does she really get that much time, I mean she has 13 shows in her hands...Also she is the producer of films too...Does she really lookafter each and every serial,that is under her PH banner?The answer is: MAYBE ,that's why all her shows have that same EK's touch..reflected everywhere 🥱


Her so called research of history and again converting it NR is really unsatisfactory and worthless


But somehow I feel it depends upon the creatives team also(how much sadistic they are?eh?)


She should see to it that nothing such sort of unnecessary changes are to made to JA as it might affect the show's health😕


"If you build the guts to do something, anything, then you better save enough to face the consequences."

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-->> What about all those loose ends? Missing celebrities...


Okay fine. Let us agree that we have got many good tracks in this serial so far... (Or few??)


But the saddest part of all is that, CVs are introducing such horrendous tracks, and spoiling the memoirs of such good tracks...They are leaving us with a sour taste in our mouth...


What is the necessity of introducing such tracks, if they are not able to justify the closure of them, properly??


There are many such cases, where the tracks (either sensible or nonsensical)have been introduced and have been left without a proper explanation...What happens to these guys man!!!


My sincere advice would be this--

The middle of the road is where the white line is- and it is the worst place to drive.

Don't go in the middle man! Make it pure fictional or make it the other way...Don't show useless tracks in the name of the show


For God' sake, please stop showing all this nonsense, if you are not able to show something rational, logical.🥱


Some persons who are GUMSHUDA and we urgently need a WANTED poster on these names...I beg a replacement,if needed...👏

Abdul

Bhagwaan Das(perhaps, essaying a role in Singhasan Batthisi 😆)

Mainavati

Abul Maali

Mahachuchak and her minister(white eyed man😆)

Shariffuddin and his Big beard dad...

Mirza Hakim


and the list goes on...With so many unanswered questions and unsolved puzzles...leving us to scratch our heads thereafter!!! Pathetic !!!


What about the bloopers??(They are uncountable in number...I find atleast ten in number in each episode😕 )


The main problem is that these people start opening everything, to set a sort of rise in TRPs and atlast result in degrading the quality of tracks...showing all the recycled crap...

If you don't need them, just please don't show them...Please don't slaughter HISTORY in the name of these tracks...🥱

Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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-->> Yeh sab kuch kitna bhaari padne waala hai...and the other snippets...


"If you believe that your thoughts originate inside your brain, do you also believe that television shows are made inside your television set?"

You CVs, and the whole team,please grow,show some good stuff...which can be very well related.🥱

"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."

Please try to promote it...give us some sensible tracks...Don't take historical events into account if you are not capable of showing them properly.It doesn't make sense to me if you are going to just fictionalise everything at the cost of legends.
Please show something ethical..These cheap screeching,passing out such dirty words will degrade the standards FURTHER!!

Isse pehle ki zyaada nuksaan ho,sudhar jayiye aur isse behtar banaye...😡

My sincere advice--

"If you hang out with chickens, you're going to cluck and if you hang out with eagles, you're going to fly." 😆
Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Going to update my smashing seven posts soon...This is going to be a definite eye opener to the CVs...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi Radhika, Abhay and all others here,

Hope u all had a wonderful Navratri and Dusshera and Eid...😊

On a different note, The only thing that I can say here is that, Folks, Please digest this part of NR ...as this was probably the only way EK could justify the Barbarism of Chittor...!!😔

Otherwise, when u are out to show the love-story of two people who belonged to clans which had long been at loggerheads with each other, there remains little or NO CHANCE at all for some parts to be justified even for the sake of the Hero-heroine of the Saga...!!

The NR was quite indigestible, Grotesque and painful for us viewers...just as was Ruqaiyya 's Rage making her go after a mere infant's life...not to mention accusing Jodha of irresponsibility towards her "own birthed Children"...!🤢

Jalal's monstrous body language and rage is only becoz his own distaste at his self...!! The answer was aptly given by the intelligent Salima...!!😳
"Ja and Jo are the same soul" and being angry at Jo means being at himself for Jalal...!!😳

Angry for being seized by desire for each other when their only living child was being poisoned...Angry for being the reason of Jo's absence beside Hussein when he needed her attention the most...!!
Angry for attending to spousal instinct more when Parental instinct was at stake...!!

So folks, chill and let this phase pass ...as I am sure EK will get some wonderful NR to REDEEM this grossness ...at the right time and at the right moment...!!😊

Get ready for the wonderful Diwali to light up our souls and homes...!!😃

Regards,
Kamal


Amen or Ameen to your thoughts Kamal .



Charu .

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