Churning of the Ocean; note on pg 15 - Page 4

Originally posted by: ..Anusha..

I didn't know we could actually choose a path to recover from things like this. Jalal's personality and his past has made him go this route. Jodha knowing his past, his present with her ... is holding on to the knowledge that he can change...and he will change again. She just has to wait at the other end for him.

Unless Ekta decides that Jo has to interrupt his journey with some shocker.

That is true .. it is God who ultimately decides your path to Him
All I was saying, I hope my path to spirituality is not quite the same

Originally posted by: adiana12

Divs, there is a beautiful poem by Tennyson - Home they brought her warrior dead - which goes - home they brought her warrior dead, she did'nt weep nor uttered a cry; all her maidens watching said, she must weep or she will die - and Divs, this is true for every human who has been thru a shocking and traumatic experience of extreme grief - they have to weep or they will die - and Akbar and Jodha said the same for Akbar - he was slowly dying becoz he had not wept at all - and since the morning when Hussein died is shock turned into trauma and pain which he never let out in tears to cleanse himself and this now has become the volcano of anger which is bursting out and thus causing extreme destruction - but interestingly the soil around a volcano is supposed to be highly fertile aluvial soil - and as they say every act of creation is based on destruction - this destruction is necessary for any further creation

Beautiful Adia 👏

Yes it is true ... Jalal has not shed tears yet ... and I felt Hamida Bano actually described Jalal's angst quite well

Yes, the churning is destruction ... but as you say it is the path for future creation

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

yeh ishq nahi asaan ghalib,

ek aag ka dariya hai

aur doob ke jaana hai

Too true for our Jodha-Jalal.

Tu mujhe chod jaaye, yeh nahi ho sakta, saathiya

meri baaton mein tera zikr sada, meri yaad teri fikr sada

"main jo bhi hoon, tum hi toh ho",

mujhe tumse mili apni adaa

Kyonki tum hi ho, ab tum hi ho,

zindagi ab tum hi ho

chain bhi, mera dard bhi,

meri aashiqui ab tum hi ho

"tum hi ho, tum hi ho,

arz bhi, mera marz bhi,

chain bhi, mera dard bhi,

meri aashiqui ab tum hi ho"..

tere liye hi jiya main, khud ko jo yoon de diya hai

teri wafa ne mujko sambhala, saare ghamo ko dil se nikla

"main jo mit bhi gaya, toh wajood mera sada tujhmein rahe zinda"...

Ab tum hi ho, bas tum hi ho,

meri aashiqui, ab tum hi ho.

If they are one, how could their guilt, their pain be separate?

If they're one, how could he move on and she stand still?

If they are one, how could he be a weak and she strong?

If they're one, how could he be coward and she brave?

If they're one, how could he be heartless and she with a beautiful heart?

They're one, they're soul mates and therefore together, searching for same answers and same Almighty.

Beautiful Mishti ... Loved the lines in underlined 😳

The last scene showed how when Jodha's hand bled ... it was Jalal's eyes that flinched

Jodha actually knows whtever he said he didn't meant tht. Its true jalal had become ruthless but his ruthlessness is only for his enemies. If he had actually turned into jallad he would have taken back all the reforms he had done. Its just tht his nature of forgiving his enemies had been destroyed. People r saying he shifted the blame to jodha but the truth is he wanted to know jodha's opinion in his own way nd when he realized jodha is also into the same mode it pushed him further into the shell.

Originally posted by: munnirony

Jodha actually knows whtever he said he didn't meant tht. Its true jalal had become ruthless but his ruthlessness is only for his enemies. If he had actually turned into jallad he would have taken back all the reforms he had done. Its just tht his nature of forgiving his enemies had been destroyed. People r saying he shifted the blame to jodha but the truth is he wanted to jodha's opinion in his own way nd when he realized jodha is also into the same mode it pushed him further into the shell.

Originally posted by: divyavm

Beautiful Mishti ... Loved the lines in underlined 😳

The last scene showed how when Jodha's hand bled ... it was Jalal's eyes that flinched

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Shreya, Jodha is a woman of self respect. All that matter to her is Jalal, if Jalal had accused her of murder, she wouldn't have put back in Agra for anyone's sake.

That she's still there, is suffice to tell us what actually Jalal meant.

Originally posted by: munnirony

Jodha actually knows whtever he said he didn't meant tht. Its true jalal had become ruthless but his ruthlessness is only for his enemies. If he had actually turned into jallad he would have taken back all the reforms he had done. Its just tht his nature of forgiving his enemies had been destroyed. People r saying he shifted the blame to jodha but the truth is he wanted to know jodha's opinion in his own way nd when he realized jodha is also into the same mode it pushed him further into the shell.

a very good point munni and no one thought of that! he wanted to get jodha's opinion and figured out that the she too was burning in the same guilt and if ever they got together in bed it would remind them of the horrible death of their child..and that is why the distance!