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Posted: 10 years ago
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While a lot of this serial is NR, I think most of us understand three things are true ... one the twins died, that Jodha-Jalal would have grieved, but ultimately they would have risen from this stronger and closer to the Divine. Read the following verse:

"These two unique pearls of the ocean of holiness, returned to the ample domain of the other world after one month. They flung down the coin of their lives for their father. H.M. felt grieved at the departure of those two early fruits, but trod the pleasant path of acquiescence and resignation, for to the farseeing there is no remedy save submission and resignation against the inevitable Divine decrees."

To go in this path to realization, the pain has to go out ... and today both Jodha and Jalal did that in their own ways.

I cannot measure whose pain is greater- Jodha- Jalal's ... because the pain of losing a child, is the pain of losing a child.

What was Jodha's pain? As a mother, she was helpless and not by the side of her child when he needed her. Hence, how did she release the pain? By expressing her guilt that she could not do anything to save her child.

We all know who Jodha is - she would have felt guilty that she was not there for her son. Do you think if Ruquaiyya had not told her, Jodha would not have thought even once that was there something she could have done to save her son?

Jodha is releasing her pain by expressing her guilt and helplessness within her that she could not save her son ... and this will only make her stronger. I thought Paridhi was amazing in that scene in which she collapsed as the grief, pain, and guilt and engulfed. The whole episode she was in a daze trying to process and understand how her world was changing.

And if you think the CVs were trying to compare Jodha and Ruquaiyya's pain, I saw one critical difference- Ruquaiyya was lamenting what she lost, Jodha was lamenting what she could have saved. For Jodha, her only thought was what she could have done to save her child ... and the fact that she is self-reflecting to this question ... one day she will get a response from the Divine that this is indeed what is destined to be, and all , including a mother, are powerless in front of the Divine decree.

What was Jalal's pain? He also shared the helplessness of Jodha ... but it was compounded as he was the Shehenshah. He helps ensure the safety of all his awaam ... but today, he was helpless as he could not save his own sons , in his own fort.

And the anger was even worse, because it negated his evolution over the past year. His growth into a broad-minded , good-hearted Emperor, building a well for a village, reducing the burden of unfair taxes, and in that he had gained so many good wishes for the awaam ...

But, it also earned him enemies ... Maham Anga and so many others had turned against him throughout this journey. And today he is asking God, how did one baddhua trump all the duas he and his children had received?

And he is releasing his pain through anger ... and this came out in the angry way that he is questioning God why he lost his children? I thought Rajat's hard face and narrowed eyes brought the old Jalal back to life. But, this anger is only temporary ... he will realize he will get no peace from his rampage - though it will send a message to his enemies to not take him lightly, it will bring him no inner peace. But, I truly feel, that taking out this anger and questioning God is Jalal's own path to self-realization and will ultimately make him realize the Divine Decree even more stronger.

Today, was the day where Jodha and Jalal took out their frustrations and pain in their own ways ... and this is the first path towards evolving into stronger, more spiritual individuals.

And one side note on this "lost and found" of Jalal's heart ... it is just a matter of speaking for Jalal. His pain was just as much when he lost his unborn child with Ruq's MC ... and supposedly then he did not have a heart. My take is that ... this is the evolution of the Shehenshah Akbar, who has a heart to those who love him ... and a ruthless emperor for the rest. He was in the ruthless equilibrium before ... he moved to a completely lovey dovey one in the middle ... now he is going to go back to being ruthless before finding the right equilibrium for him- which is a balance of both.

And for those frustrated with Ruquaiyya's screen space today ... all I saw today was self-pity and no reflection ... she will be left where she is, while Jodha and Jalal are embarking on their own journey's of self realization and will be stronger soul mates coming out of there. They might show their paths a bit separate ... but they will meet together stronger soul mates than ever before.

And my song dedication for Jodha-Jalal today, "Dua" from the movie Shanghai ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FMz_KT1mC4

Kise poochun, hai aisa kyun
Bezubaan sa, ye jahaan hai

To whom to ask, why is it so,
this world is, as if mute..

Khushi ke pal, kahan dhoondhoon
Benishan sa, waqt bhi yahan hai

Where to find moments of joy,
Even time is like without a sign..

Jaane kitne labon pe gile hain
Zindagi se kayi faasle hain
Paseejte hain sapne kyun aankhon mein
Lakeer jab chhoote in haathon se yoon bewajah

There are complaints on so many lips,
there are many distances from the life..
Why do the dreams dampen in eyes,
when the line leaves these hands, for no reason.


Jo bheji thi duaa, woh jaake aasmaan
se yoon takra gayi ke aa gayi
Hai laut ke sadaa

The wish I had sent,
that collided with the sky such that
a call has come back..

This is a song I like to listen to when I myself wonder why my prayers are not answered or why something bad happens... and I always get an answer back of why it is meant to be ... but it sometimes takes a while. As it will with the journey of Jodha-Jalal.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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🤬yes do not trust zee. i called him and he told me
that ruqiya wont be expose as she play important role in the show he also told me
that there gonna be leap by end of month i was so upset i hanged up the phone
on him he told me this is why they show jodha and akbar 2rd sex night as it will be
their last night to make love😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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👎🏼yes do not trust zee. i called him and he told me
that ruqiya wont be expose as she play important role in the show he also told me
that there gonna be leap by end of month i was so upset i hanged up the phone
on him he told me this is why they show jodha and akbar 2rd sex night as it will be
their last night to make love😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: morsal_cute

👎🏼yes do not trust zee. i called him and he told me
that ruqiya wont be expose as she play important role in the show he also told me
that there gonna be leap by end of month i was so upset i hanged up the phone
on him he told me this is why they show jodha and akbar 2rd sex night as it will be
their last night to make love😡



Why are you trusting Zee now?
And would Jodha-Jalal's pain be any different if Ruq's was exposed? Ruq's doesn't play in their equation

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Just whizzing through Magal and I haven't seen the episode yet...

I agree with what you say.

in general terms, JJ will be okay, they are on the right track. Ruks has her own little world and it may even expand a bit later, but she really has no bearing on the bigger picture of JJ.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..Anusha..

Just whizzing through Magal and I haven't seen the episode yet...

I agree with what you say.

in general terms, JJ will be okay, they are on the right track. Ruks has her own little world and it may even expand a bit later, but she really has no bearing on the bigger picture of JJ.



Thanks Chitti for whizzing by ... I can almost picture this 😆

All I know is JJ's pain is real and their path to the Divine is real ... The rest could hardly matter
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good to see ur post today, Divs. Each of ur lines r true & JaJo will finally be triumphant at the end of this long tunnel of darkness & find light in their life. A very touching sad song but apt selection u ve added 👍🏼 . Will try to get in a more detailed comment tomorrow (& my Ruqqu s still alive & kicking 😉 🤣 much to the disgust & anger of majority forum waasis 😆 ). She s sure a super"hit" star 😉 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ngayou

Good to see ur post today, Divs. Each of ur lines r true & JaJo will finally be triumphant at the end of this long tunnel of darkness & find light in their life. A very touching sad song but apt selection u ve added 👍🏼 . Will try to get in a more detailed comment tomorrow (& my Ruqqu s still alive & kicking 😉 🤣 much to the disgust & anger of majority forum waasis 😆 ). She s sure a super"hit" star 😉 😆



@bold: 😆😆😆 somebody is happy here...yup i admit she indeed is rocking. Amidst all the anger and frustration including mine, she indeed passed with flying colors...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ngayou

Good to see ur post today, Divs. Each of ur lines r true & JaJo will finally be triumphant at the end of this long tunnel of darkness & find light in their life. A very touching sad song but apt selection u ve added 👍🏼 . Will try to get in a more detailed comment tomorrow (& my Ruqqu s still alive & kicking 😉 🤣 much to the disgust & anger of majority forum waasis 😆 ). She s sure a super"hit" star 😉 😆


Thanks Gayathri - I try to parachute in sometimes 😆

Yes, Jodha-Jalal will go through a dark patch and it is but natural - but it does not change who they are. Jalal still has a heart ... He can't play "lost and found" with it again

The forum obsession with Ruq is astounding ... Do you think Jodha-Jalal's pain has anything to do with Ruq's?

And while I do not like Ruq's child swapping idea, there is nothing to bhandaphod ... Everyone knows she wanted to be MUZ. Zeenat had come to the palace before becoming Daima with an intention to kill the children so She could have done it without being a daima as neither murder happened when she was playing the role of daima for Hussein
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



@bold: 😆😆😆 somebody is happy here...yup i admit she indeed is rocking. Amidst all the anger and frustration including mine, she indeed passed with flying colors...


Sindhu, I did a whole post focusing on JJ and your comment is on Ruqs 😆

You don't remember my Krishna - Shakuni story?

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