Poor Husein dies ... and Zeenat and Qasim are about to get caught! - Page 8

Originally posted by: skanda12

This time Nandini, I am sure Ruq will get pardaphashed. Simply because she is the only villain in this track (I count Zeenat as a cameo and not really a full-fledged villain).

Originally posted by: skanda12

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Excellent points! There is something very very fishy in these points. So Ruq must get caught for all this.

Originally posted by: abhi786

First part JJ overcame the grief & pain healing themselves.. I could see PS & RT were so comfortable and hope I don't hear now viewers complain about the distance... This SR is much more detailed way then previous one..

How much fool is MB to listen to Zeenat and left the kid to her, why can't she spend the night with the baby Hussein.. I always feel Hoshiyaar is much more royal & took care of Hussein very well... JO who came from Jalaal hojra at the night itself happy to see her son sleeping peacefully.. Morning also when she woke up JO has to delight face as why her son is so quiet & when reality hit her the agony & a loud cry made Jalaal & all woke up while Ruqu started her blame game..

Jalaal I feel still unable to accept the truth & just looking at JO. His eyes shows angry & unbelievable seeing JO crying... JO is more heartbroken & unstopable hearing the worst accusationson her.. How could Ruqu say those harsh words that she ATE up both her kids ..

When Hakima told the baby died of posion Jalaal came out & got that Zeenat is behind.. Precap show that Ruqu is ready to kill the baby, may be JO will save the baby again and might even get another round of accusations from Ruqu...

I want to see What punishment Jalaal will give to Z & Q..

Originally posted by: abhi786

First part JJ overcame the grief & pain healing themselves.. I could see PS & RT were so comfortable and hope I don't hear now viewers complain about the distance... This SR is much more detailed way then previous one..

How much fool is MB to listen to Zeenat and left the kid to her, why can't she spend the night with the baby Hussein.. I always feel Hoshiyaar is much more royal & took care of Hussein very well... JO who came from Jalaal hojra at the night itself happy to see her son sleeping peacefully.. Morning also when she woke up JO has to delight face as why her son is so quiet & when reality hit her the agony & a loud cry made Jalaal & all woke up while Ruqu started her blame game..

Jalaal I feel still unable to accept the truth & just looking at JO. His eyes shows angry & unbelievable seeing JO crying... JO is more heartbroken & unstopable hearing the worst accusationson her.. How could Ruqu say those harsh words that she ATE up both her kids ..

When Hakima told the baby died of posion Jalaal came out & got that Zeenat is behind.. Precap show that Ruqu is ready to kill the baby, may be JO will save the baby again and might even get another round of accusations from Ruqu...

I want to see What punishment Jalaal will give to Z & Q..

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, one thing is sure whether you people agree with me or not, but I just could not enjoy their happy moments even for a bit despite they were steamy. I was like should I alert them that Zeenat is about to poison your child, rush now, you have a life together to enjoy but alas things will happen according the wish of the almighty and if he had destined them to share the moment, then it is for a purpose. And from Moti's words it is clear that Jalal had sent words through Moti to Jodha to spend the night with him and that is the reason Moti asked her "why are you here, you were suppose to spend this night with Shehenshah". Jodha was true to her character she said, yes, I had to but I went their just to ensure that Jalal will go to a peaceful sleep and once it is achieved I am here back to my room. Had she not been that tired, may be she would have tried to check on Husein by removing the mosquito net but even she was tired as she was physically and mentally weak, even her body protested to have rest and she just went and slept may went into a deep slumber.

Whether we accept it or not, we believe in that or not, if it was not for destiny, Hakima would not have stopped Ruqu from visiting Husein even after she gave a green chit to her about her health. Had she not stopped Ruqu then, may be she would have found husein struggling for life and would have tried something to get rid of the poison. Had it not been for the destiny, Jalal would not have sent a word for Jodha to spend her night with him in his hojra, deserting the child on the servants. If it were normal, he would have come to her hojra, where Zeenat would not have any access to Husein, Jodha could have still looked after the child but no for some strange reason, he wanted Jodha to go to him and as it was night, Jodha could not even think of alerting Salima or Hamida, so that they could take care of Husein in her absence. Had it not been that Jodha had intentions to return back to her room in the night, may be she would have arranged something more to safeguard the child but she had no intentions to spend the entire night in Jalal's room, so she just thought since is a matter few hours, the 2 ladies will be sufficient to look after the child.

The destiny had planned a different game for the couple. in one hand he was snatching their one child and at the same moment he was blessing them with the other. one side a flower was withering and on the other side a bud may have taken a shape. Jodha's Kahna could not stop the curse but he had showered his mercy on his devotee by granting a new life. Yes no amount happiness can diminish the sorrow of loss and any numbers of children will compensate for the loss of one child but that is the life and one has to live to accept the loss with a help of new arrival.

Jodha was not just devested for the time she spent with jalal but also for not checking her son on returning. In the aftermath pleasure of the time spent and exhaustion, she just dropped dead on her bed and must have had a good sleep after almost a month or atleast after her loss of Hasan. Even Jalal was aghast as he had summoned Jodha to his room and in that moment, his child had last breathed and none of them had even noticed it.

When Ruqu asked Jodha about where were you when my child breathed his last breath, it was literal and she didn't even knew that Jodha was not in her room. She was asking her why you could not stop the death, what were you doing at that moment, were you sleeping or so. As a mother could you not sense it in you when the child was succumbing to death. But both Jodha & Jalal were guilty as they were together away from the child. When Hakima told about the baby being poisoned at midnight the alarm bell ranged in Jalal's head as Jodha was with him during that period and away from Husein and that was the reason he asked Moti who were all there with the child and zeroed it on Zeenat as she was the missing one out of three. Even now, Ruqu has not registered the fact that Jodha was not with the child, all she knew is Zeenat was also there along with Moti & Zakira and Jodha was supervising them. The moment she gets to know Jodha spent the night with jalal by deserting the child, the question she had asked Jalal today (what punishment he will give Jodha Begum for her negligence), she will press it in DEK and may be at that moment Jodha may opt to leave to Amer as her punishment or since Bharamal was present there may volunteer to take Jodha along with him as a change for her. So it looks more likely that Jodha will go to Amer with her father. As of now I don't find any reason for Ruqu being of the scanner and most probably she will not even be able to talk more as Jalal may leave for war immediately.

May later on his arrival or during his journey he may get to smell some foul play and may get to know about Ruqu's real reason for adopting the child. So without much audience, he may order Ruqu to stay away from his life but she may still retain her BEK post. I don't see any possibility of Ruqu revealing her vice intentions in adopting the child any time soon and at the least not now while they are mourning for the loss of child. Later she may try to take more power into her hands, taking advantage of the absence of Jodha and also the Jallad behavior of Jalal and may try to impose some rules on others which may result in getting her under scanner. May be Salima or Gulbhadhan Begum may get to know about her aim for MUZ title and what she did to reach that goal, may be in her high condition when she may consume more wine, she may spill the bean But I don't think she will get revealed today or tomorrow.

One thing which still puzzle me is that even after being poisoned and died of poison, how come the body is not changed its colour? How come there was not even stains of saliva out of the baby's mouth as it is normal that any person dies out of poison will vomit? Is it that Zeenat ensured to wipe the saliva before fleeing and had she visited the child once before leaving to have a double check on the death and did that delayed their journey? If hakima could conclude Husein died out of poisoning with out any material evidence, why she could not decide on the same on Hasan's death. Does that mean Hasn didn't die of poison but with some other reason? May be chocking?

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

You know Mansi , even though I have no high hopes about Ruks's grand expose , I am hoping that when Jalal is giving her the third degree , it should be done in front of Hamida begum , Salima begum , Jodha , Gulbadan begum and a couple of bandhis who she has repeatedly insulted .

I agree that since she is his first mughal wife, and since she has not really committed a crime as such , she cannot be severely punished . However , Jodha is also Jalal's wife and the love of his life . I feel that by cunningly demanding a baby from Jodha by misusing her weakness , Rukaiya has committed an act equal to crime . Separating a mother from her child with vile motives is an emotional crime towards both the mother and child .Rukaiya's ignoble , evil intentions behind demanding a baby itself , are worthy of punishment . So Jalal SHOULD punish her. Punishing her would actually protect and upkeep the royal dignity , so that other ladies in the harem never ever think of repeating a horrendous act like hers'. By punishing her , Jalal will prove that nobody including begum-e-khas will be spared for wrong doings .

Charu .

Originally posted by: skanda12

Jaya, how very true your statements are about destiny playing a hand in events, no matter what we people now or in the 16th century think that we can take actions to avoid destiny. The thing about destiny is that no matter what you do, knowingly or unknowingly, and no matter who you are careful of or careless about the hand of fate does its due job come what may. So in a way Jodha and jalal blaming themselves is also wrong, and Ruq blaming Jodha or Jalal is also wrong, and the hakima not allowing Ruq one more night near the child is also not wrong ... none of these people could do anything but dance to the tune of fate!

And yes on the point of the poison also, see both babies were poisoned differently, so I wonder if there is still some twist in that regard. Why was Ruq's baby shown earlier as vomiting but it was just over-feeding? Why was that similar to death of Hasan. And then why did Husein show no sign of colour change or any hint of poison in his bloodstream. there is still some twist that is not adding up!