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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz


Donjas liked your post. This is a new perspective altogether of looking at this track. Maybe you're right.But a separate track is too much torture. this was enough na.

Neetz, I feel that this purposely kept hanging like this. Plus Ruqu's on the spot killing of Zeenat was fishy
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: justlovetv


Neetz, I feel that this purposely kept hanging like this. Plus Ruqu's on the spot killing of Zeenat was fishy


Sammy you're right maybe. I am not able to make any sense of this now. CVs know better what they are trying to show re. Ruk is pure torture. her screeching is harmful for the ears.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz


Sammy you're right maybe. I am not able to make any sense of this now. CVs know better what they are trying to show re. Ruk is pure torture. her screeching is harmful for the ears.

Exactly. All her concern for Hussein was OTT😆
Plus her screechingđŸ„± LT seriously over acted today😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: justlovetv

Exactly. All her concern for Hussein was OTT😆[/DIV]

Plus her screechingđŸ„±LT seriously over acted today😆


True.
You know till the end of the epi I was waiting and hoping for some indication for her bhandaphod but nothing happened. I was shocked when Zeenat died.Similarly for Qasim. I was waiting for Jalal to come and take over the fight. and if they wanted to kill Qasim then and there without following history once again, I feel they should have had Jalal do it. it was only fair na. they should not have had him coming later and mutilating the dead body. it was horrible to watch.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz


True.
You know till the end of the epi I was waiting and hoping for some indication for her bhandaphod but nothing happened. I was shocked when Zeenat died.Similarly for Qasim. I was waiting for Jalal to come and take over the fight. and if they wanted to kill Qasim then and there without following history once again, I feel they should have had Jalal do it. it was only fair na. they should not have had him coming later and mutilating the dead body. it was horrible to watch.

Haan thoda sick thađŸ€ą
But Ruqu has already done some kaand here.
You won't believe, my mom who doesn't watch JA at all saw it today. And she said that this Ruqu killed Zeenat to shut her up. She doesn't watch yet she predicted that Ruqu will fall😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Donjas

You may find my views too positive on this depressing day but here it is-

Firstly, I believe there was a logic to showing Ruqaiya's bad behavior in the track. Buy why, when Ruqaiya was to be a victim at the end? I think the reason is, they want us to hate Ruqaiya. They could have shown some redeeming qualities that Ruqs has, but they did not.

They did not do bhandaphor of Ruq in this track for two reasons. Firstly, they want to give it a separate track treatment. They did not want to waste it now on a track which already had more than enough drama. It would have been a waste now.

Secondly, every program needs a viable villain. After the death of Maham and the missing in action, Mahachuchak, Jodha Akbar desperately needs a strong hated villain. For the time being Ruqu will fill that role till a new villain gets anointed.

I see a silver lining in all this, this reluctance to close Ruqaiya's book seems to indicate the CV's are not in too much of a hurry to speed things up, that lessens the chance of a leap. When all the villains start getting axed, left and right, that is when we should start worrying.



Donjas Thanks for bringing on positivity. I completely agree with you here.Thats what the cvs are trying to do. They cannot completely take ruq off the picture thats y after fake preg track, during mirchi war they tried showing her as redeemed .But due to Mahacs failure and as maham has to leave ,they once again brought back ruq.
But the pbm with ruq being a villain is
1.Unlike other villains of ja who somehow be instrumental in taking ja love forward ,ruq is always a deterrent to it.See Every single precious moment of ja which could have been exclusively theirs is spoiled by ruq.Ultimately villains or not we watch the journey to see only their love
2.We can't completely ignore ruq too as most of her scenes are embedded with leads so to ff her scenes we have to loose those too and in the end nothing will remain .Like in todays episode ,only at the end it was jalal's scene even in that too we were shown ruq equally crying and devasted like jo .This really get on to our nerves.
3.Most importantly her continuous insult to jo ,in mahams case atleast we can understand those were the initial days when their love has not been declared yet and so tolerate it,but now after all this when we see jalal made quite and bear with her insults is really upsetting as it creates a question on why he has to be so?

Thats y i expected that even though she won't be taken completely off the picture if they had shown she has done something wrong ,a confrontation of jalal with ruq could have been created and he might even try to punish her .she always has a wish in her hand she can use it and then jo and jalal would have have been able to keep her emotionally off so that the third angle could have been cut off .She doesn't need to be redeemed.She could have continued as a villain yet .Maham even after jalal cutting her off she continue to do all,they could have proceeded in the same lines. By this we could also have got satisfaction and they could also have maintained her as a villain till someone new comes
As far as today i didn't see any chance of it ,but if they are going to proceed on the same lines i don't know how they will keep up with trps .Yes not leap is a good thing ,but those days should be more productive like showing more of jo ja and less of ruq else i don't see a silver line in it too..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz


True.
You know till the end of the epi I was waiting and hoping for some indication for her bhandaphod but nothing happened. I was shocked when Zeenat died.Similarly for Qasim. I was waiting for Jalal to come and take over the fight. and if they wanted to kill Qasim then and there without following history once again, I feel they should have had Jalal do it. it was only fair na. they should not have had him coming later and mutilating the dead body. it was horrible to watch.



@blue: 😆😆 we will have to imagine this ourselves. We will not see this at all..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: prav2



Donjas Thanks for bringing on positivity. I completely agree with you here.Thats what the cvs are trying to do. They cannot completely take ruq off the picture thats y after fake preg track, during mirchi war they tried showing her as redeemed .But due to Mahacs failure and as maham has to leave ,they once again brought back ruq.
But the pbm with ruq being a villain is
1.Unlike other villains of ja who somehow be instrumental in taking ja love forward ,ruq is always a deterrent to it.See Every single precious moment of ja which could have been exclusively theirs is spoiled by ruq.Ultimately villains or not we watch the journey to see only their love
2.We can't completely ignore ruq too as most of her scenes are embedded with leads so to ff her scenes we have to loose those too and in the end nothing will remain .Like in todays episode ,only at the end it was jalal's scene even in that too we were shown ruq equally crying and devasted like jo .This really get on to our nerves.
3.Most importantly her continuous insult to jo ,in mahams case atleast we can understand those were the initial days when their love has not been declared yet and so tolerate it,but now after all this when we see jalal made quite and bear with her insults is really upsetting as it creates a question on why he has to be so?

Thats y i expected that even though she won't be taken completely off the picture if they had shown she has done something wrong ,a confrontation of jalal with ruq could have been created and he might even try to punish her .she always has a wish in her hand she can use it and then jo and jalal would have have been able to keep her emotionally off so that the third angle could have been cut off .She doesn't need to be redeemed.She could have continued as a villain yet .Maham even after jalal cutting her off she continue to do all,they could have proceeded in the same lines. By this we could also have got satisfaction and they could also have maintained her as a villain till someone new comes
As far as today i didn't see any chance of it ,but if they are going to proceed on the same lines i don't know how they will keep up with trps .Yes not leap is a good thing ,but those days should be more productive like showing more of jo ja and less of ruq else i don't see a silver line in it too..


Great post Priya👏

But you see, so many people in the forum are also against this behaviour and attitude of Ruqaiyya...

You have got great points,dear...But what now I am feeling that is,according to CVs Ruqaiyya has not done any serious deed(???) to cause her exposure...

In future,her attempting to any serious JURM(???)may cause her to be exposed...but as you said, she would very well utilise her wish...

This can save her from punishment,but it can separate her from Jalal on emotional grounds...this will be shown,somewhere,swift and simple...The exposure cannot be expected to be grand, as of all truths and deeds coming out is of thin possibility...

CVs may just show her punishment,for that SANGEEN JURM(??)

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Donjas

You may find my views too positive on this depressing day but here it is-

Firstly, I believe there was a logic to showing Ruqaiya's bad behavior in the track. Buy why, when Ruqaiya was to be a victim at the end? I think the reason is, they want us to hate Ruqaiya. They could have shown some redeeming qualities that Ruqs has, but they did not.

They did not do bhandaphor of Ruq in this track for two reasons. Firstly, they want to give it a separate track treatment. They did not want to waste it now on a track which already had more than enough drama. It would have been a waste now.

Secondly, every program needs a viable villain. After the death of Maham and the missing in action, Mahachuchak, Jodha Akbar desperately needs a strong hated villain. For the time being Ruqu will fill that role till a new villain gets anointed.

I see a silver lining in all this, this reluctance to close Ruqaiya's book seems to indicate the CV's are not in too much of a hurry to speed things up, that lessens the chance of a leap. When all the villains start getting axed, left and right, that is when we should start worrying.


I love you being SANGUINE even now Donjas !! Sheer Optimism eh? 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lasyap3


Thank you Charu...😳


Excellent writeup Lasya .You have penned profound thoughts about life, death and God very well.I have read and re-read your post several times and am unable to get over the depth in the meaning of the message that you have so beautifully conveyed .

I am making an attempt to understand Jalal's frame of mind and what he could have actually meant by saying that he does not believe in 'khuda' anymore .

It is very normal and natural for a human being to play the blame game when they have to face the sudden death of a loved one . Very often this is done due to their inability to come to terms with the finality of their loss . In this case Jalal and Jodha are blaming the Almighty for taking away their babies from them . We saw Jodha taking the extreme step of covering Kanha's murti with the drape and refusing to light the lamp . Today we saw Jalal declaring that he will not trust in khuda anymore and that he will become the old heartless Jallad again .

It is due to their immense love for and faith in the Creator that they are disillusioned . Where there is love , there is bound to be disappointment and hatred . This is the equation in the relationship between God , Jodha and Jalal . This anger will be temporary . Their faith, trust and love for God will overcome the anger and hatred and help them heal .

Jalal is trying to make sense of the sudden horrendous way his babies died . More than being angry with khuda , he is actually angry at himself , for being unable to protect his babies from predators , inspite of being the shehenshah . He feels that he has let down his babies by being an irresponsible parent .It is a sense of helplessness and guilt arising from his inability to prevent the ghastly act from happening that is manifesting itself in the form of anger towards the Almighty.

'When God permits suffering , he also provides comfort . If HE brings you to it , He will also bring you through it "

In the past we have seen both Jodha and Jalal sincerely accepting each others religious beliefs and practicing them . This belief in God will not disappear overnight inspite of the irreparable loss that they have had to face .Just as he lit the diya in front of kanhaa and begged Him to save Jodha from the effects of the poison , just as she learnt how to perform namaaz from him and undertook the pilgrimage to seek the Blessings of Saint Salim, just as they sincerely performed the pooja for the well being of Rukaiya's ( non existent ) baby at the temple , in the same way , we will again see them being blessed by the Grace of God .The acceptance of the loss of the twins and the subsequent healing with their renewed faith and trust in the Creator , will mark the beginning of their spiritual journey together .



Charu .
Edited by JAfanCharu - 11 years ago

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