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Posted: 10 years ago
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I do not know history in detail...nor am I a history buff...infact, i strongly advocate that history is important for kids, but not important enough to mug...History exams should be open book exams, where kids are aware of all topics, but need not know by heart every minute detail...
I loved the film JA, n hence i started watching JA on TV. .

I empathise with the REAL Ruqaiyya for the situation she found herself in when Jalal fell in love with Jo...infact, i even empathised with the REEL Ruqaiya initially, but only till before the FP track....since the FP track, n esp in the current baby track, I have zero hesitation in admitting that I find her totally repulsive n loathsome ...😡

This child track has landed Ruqu in a sort of an abyss...she is totally beyond redemption now...she has openly admitted to us viewers that:

1)She is taking advantage of Jo's goodness...n hence succeeds in snatching a baby from Jo

2) She wants the baby for:
a) fulfilling her MUZ obsession
b)to separate a baby who loves Jo from Jo bec Jo separated her Jalal from her 🤢
c) NOT to satisfy the inborn maternal instinct which every female is born with... (little girls play with dolls for this very reason...to satisfy this maternal instinct)

3)A baby's immune system strengthens with mother's milk...n she has disallowed this...if she truly loved the baby, she would have wanted this...

For me, Ruqu is a highly repulsive character in JA these days, n I wish her screen space is reduced drastically in the coming episodes...😃



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Posted: 10 years ago
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khushi, here u are!..pl pm me regarding what mahima said to ananya..the site i am watching has no sound..mujhe abhi bata yaar...sorry guys just ignore this not related to JA..i just needed some instant info from khushi..sorry again!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: elasingh

1...No one is asking Ruku to do Jo bhajans...Just that she should be civilized to the woman who has stood so many times for her ...recently during Afifa issue...I wish Jo had let Jalal humiliate Ruku...

I wouldn't call Ruku an angel. Certainly not. It is an open secret that she is grey and has a lot of shortcomings. But she too has stood by Jo many times. First when Jalal was about to slice her with his sword. During the mirchi war she did give jo full credit. She handled her delivery. She has been extremely rude many times. But what would you expect from a girl who has lost her husband/friend to another.

2...GB is neither hated nor admired at forum...She hardly matters...

She was severly criticised during harem elections for not voting for Jo. You cannot deny it.

3...Yes if SB does not have shame , but we have...It is kind of immoral relationship...according to me...

Immoral! But why! She is his wife and if she does develop any feelings for him or Jalal for her what is wrong? Jalal did marry Salima to protect her. But he married jo too for revenge. If the latter could turn into love why not the former?

4...May be twins kife do not matter to many becoz they are born out of Jo but to Jalal and Jo it matters...Jo brought Shenu out of goodwill and not to put down Ruku...but Ruku brought zeenat becoz she did not want Jo's kid to have any relationship with his mother...and plz dont bother giving me reason of possessive parent...she even put Jalal away from having rights...It was unethical of her to demand a child from Jo...Jo is not responsible for her being childless and so why should she pay the price...? But still she did to fullfill Jalal's promise and to be on good terms with Ruku? Does not she deserve to feed her kid at least? It is completely unethical and immoral behaviour of chief queen of Jalal...who is a 🤬

A woman who is willing to keep a mother seperate from her child due to her audha and hatred for Jo...😈

Ela, i am no ruku lover. I agree that she been mean. But she hasn't ill treated the child even in private. Had she done that...used the child for audha and revenge and illtreated it when alone with Hussein i will agree with you in toto. But she has loved the baby in her own nutty way as she has loved Jalal. If revenge and audha was all that she wanted she could have messed up with Jo's delivery and killed her. No one could have blamed her under the circumstances. She was blamed for even taking jo to the hakima. She didn't take her at gunpoint without Jalal's permission and it didn't rain when they set off and she didn't instruct the palki carriers to drop it. But you know there was a post saying ' Brainless ruk responsible for premature kids birth'. I repeat i am no ruku lover. But the concentrated hatred sometimes makes me defend her.

5...Jo and Jallu no longer play insult games...They have become one...❤️

But even after that jo didn't pause to stand against jo in Shehnaaz Toddy case. She openly said that she will oppose him.

6...When has Ruku stood up against Jalal for any good action? She humiliated him thouroly in DEK for not giving her one of his kid..👎🏼.And forgetting how Jalal has till now hidden all her crimes...This is what Ruku is...

When she instigated him into mirchi war
When she took his sword swipe and stood up against his decision to kill jo on the spot
When she persuaded him to go to Ajmer with jo when he wanted to speak to ammijaan to change the decision. Here too she placed his well being above her wishes.

7...If you still dont find Ruku repulsive then we need to change the meaning of word repulsive...😃

I don't. I will if she harms any one of the babies intentionally. But not otherwise.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Villains nahin to show mein masala kahan kudiyon 😆 All these laugh-worthy OTT entertainments and hungamas are indirectly provided by that character 😃 I throughly emphathize the real Begum Ruqaiya Sultan as Ekta has made a joke out her as same as with Akbar the Great's character and HK's ! What made me still cringe is that this show is running under the name of 'historical' show otherwise I don't give a damn , just would have appreciated Ekta to be more honest like Gul Khan , whose shows are equally crap based on lackluster romance of grey shaded hero and chulbuli heroine based on trips but the good thing is she never promises anything beyond it 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amina1

Nice post,mandy i dont hate rukiyya at all,in fact i like her high headness her attitude ,i do what ever i want attitude,she reminds me of a housewife,isnt what she is shes in charge of the harem like a house i supose no wonder akbar cant tell her anything 😆 She has some bad points as well as good point to me yeah what she did with jodha regarding the baby is bad,but both are equily at fault.to me i dont think she will harm hasan nor husain,to show jodha as saint hence bali ka bakra bani rukiya.



i very well agree with you amina that she is gray in character!..and that is how she has been from the beginning..and whatever will happen to her or not let it be as this is just a show..and there are times i have liked her and other times not and if they turn her black then she will face the black hole like maham did but we should not forget that she was the first wife and she also had the rights of being loved and given attention by jalal and jodha being a woman understood it!..and now ruk also understands that jalal loves jodha and she has accepted it but this whole twin drama is NR and we know that!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: NATURESHIVANI

The things is May be in real she was a mix n greedy character but it is the responsibility of cvs that in sake of adding spice they know how to utilise character n the baby donation then he greed of becoming Marium uz saman I is annoying



yes, cvz are using her for the mirch masala😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Mandy just cane from EID prayers ...now double duty start 😆.. I mean eid dinner and all😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



Ekta has been very generous when it comes to the portrayal of Jalal.
She has made him a saint NOT a strong/ruthless(along with being kind) Emperor he was. !!

abhay, i know that but i do want to see his other face too! i want to see the reality!

And, about Jodha, i respect your opinion, and so i hold right to give my humble opinion as well. There are enough evidences which make the fact clear about her and Jalal's relation, provided we are NOT ready to overlook facts. ;p

i agree and i have no objection to that dear..i too respect your researches on the subject!

BTW, There is no "hue and cry", all this is about what will happen to Ruqs. The discussions i have read about here, are ONLY to deliberate upon the next track, which is what a "discussion forum" is meant for. Isn't it.?.

i agree but what i was wondering is some say that the character should get out of the picture not that i enjoy all her scenes..to be honest i only watch jalal's scenes and ff the rest, therefore i have missed watching her scenes half the times except ruqlal sweet hugs which somehow look more natural than akhda hugs and i guess that is to do with the comfort level these two share!

An opinion is negative or positive according to a person's POV.. And, "laughing" on such discussions, i think does not serves any reason, as here all are "free to discuss the show within the COC" of forum , in my humble opinion..

absolutely! and why would i laugh i too have shown concerns with jalal's characterization and we all have the right to express out views its just too much of ruk discussion makes me wonder that there are other issues that need more attention, for example i find that the quality is not the same since SV left!

BTW, about the show being of Jodha - Akbar and HENCE Akbar loves Jodha, here is an Old comment of mine. :) Plz have a look.> Here is a detailed List..
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/112331811

Thanks. :)


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: happygolucky099

there is so much hatred for ruku becoz she is a negative character

even the actress playing ruku admits it di
u don't need to kill or plan killing of someone inorder to be called villain
wat ruku has done till now can not be justified
she is power hungry as shown in show



my lovely neena, she is power hungry and that is how her portrayal has been since the very beginning isn't it?..all i am saying is all of a sudden die hard hatred does not make sense..disliking i can understand!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh



ela what i feel is she is definitely shown as a negative character and that is how ekta has portrayed her negative characters..and there is nothing new but i feel bad because she was the first wife yaar..i would have rather gone for a subtle gray treatment rather than a vampish ott black hole treatment!

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