Jalal's thin veneer of anger against Maham seems ready to crumble! - Page 2

Originally posted by: deejagi

I vouch your words Manis but not because CVs may think of TRP but because Jalal and others are very well aware that Jodha is not doing something horrible which ay affect her physical condition. Just by visiting Maham in prison will not affect her health so much to affect the kids in her womb.

Jalal is watching Ruqu's each and every step so he will realize what went wrong and how instantly but Ruqu may use the absent mindedness of Jalal during his mourning for Maham and may plot something but I still think she will not do any harm to Jodha till such time she gives birth to kids.

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi,

Lovely post.

Jalal is bound to feel something for MA.Because she was more than mother for him.She took care of him ,though she had other intentions.He always loved her unconditionally not knowing what she had in her mind.He felt indebted to her as she had saved him many times and yes the milk part too.They were so close to each other for so many years .So though he thinks he is angry and upset but he still has feelings for her because the bonds of relationships are so strong that we can't just break them off easily.

Another thing Mansi,Jalal only partially knows about Maham's deeds.Her many wrongdoings are yet to be exposed .He had a doubt that MA was involved in BK killing but she hasn't confessed yet.He doesn't know that she killed his unborn babies many times.He doesn't know that she fooled him by bringing that Laakhi.He doesn't know how Maham instigated Benazir to come near him ,though her intentions were to throw Jo out but what would have happened if she was successful? He doesn't know about that Dhakka letter.Because of that misunderstanding the things went too far.What if Jo had really died after the poison incident?

He doesn't know that MA always supported Adham and had promised him Delhi takth.He doesn't know MA secretly helping Nigar in toddy case ,what if a gem of a person like Toddy was killed ? He doesn't know Maham's secret help to Nigar in Mirchi war.

If he comes to know about all this ,will he really have so much of emotions for her? I doubt when all these things are out then others will also have sympathy for MA.I can't talk about Jo because she may still rise above this.I don't want to blame her as it's her nature.

Jalal has shown enough humanity by not killing but letting her live.Had it been other person ,he or she would have been dead by now.

Some crimes can't be pardoned.Crimes related to kids whether born or unborn are horrible.And Maham was involved in one such.Even cursing those innocent babies is a big sin in itself.

If he had really known about all these wrongdoings then he would have never send her to Delhi because he can't see her dying.He would have faced her death .That was expected from a emperor who gives justice.He crying buckets for her is injustice to so many people who were harmed by her.

Originally posted by: deejagi

Yes, Jalal was very well aware of the fact that Jodha had been to meet Maham and I think he knew about her first visit as well but didn't want to question her about the same in front of others and with the way things were turning out off late, he was crying within and the one shoulder he always used in earlier occasions whenever he was hurt was reason for his pain but still he could not fathom the same and charade a stern face for a long. He knew very well that Jodha will never bothered about the Badduvas and the moment she spelled Maham, he knew she was praying for her. And that was the precise reason he told her to do whatever she feels fit and right and he will not interfere in that. Moreover it is not that Jodha went hiding to meet Maham nor he was so busy that he didn't keep tab of the whereabouts of Maham and her visitors. And it was not without his permission that Javeeda and Resham could pay visits to Maham. So he knew whe Jodha went to meet Maham along with Javeeda but he may ot know the exact condition of Maham as he could not bear to ask anyone about her health.

Now, when he realized that Resham had volunteered to pay visit to Jodha, then it had to be of some importance and later if Jodha had summoned Resham to come in and meet her to check about Maham's health, he could understand that her health must be deteriorating. Added to that Jodha had spilled the bean that Maham had stopped eating and even drinking water and has reached a situation where it will be difficult to save her. He would have discussed her condition with Hakima and get to know about the realistic state of Maham. So neither he could take it on him to watch and bear the death of Maham in front of his own eyes nor he could visualize how much Jodha will be affected that Maham had to die in such way. No son can think of his mother's death in his own eyes and he would have thought that change of location may change her mindset as he was planning to build a tomb for Adham in Delhi and staying nearer to that place might revive her mindset to live so that she could do something for her son. That is the last thing a son could do to his mother, give some respire and allow her to live.

The one who ordered Mahma to be kept in prison was the Shehenshah Jalaluddin Mohammad and the one with whom Jodha was talking for permission to meet Maham one last time before her she departure to Delhi or rather before her death. Jalal knew from within that he may not have the courage to meet Maham in that condition and also he may not tolerate the fact that she was the same person who took care of him in his days of need.

She was the same Maham who never allowed him to realize what is hunger and starving and today she is starving but he can do nothing to convince her to eat. So may he thought it would be better for Jodha to visit Maham so that she may change her mind and make her eat a mouthful before her last breath. He wanted his Badi Ammi to die with satisfaction than hunger and hurt. He knew Jodha is capable of changing anyone's mood and so thought it would be appropriate if she visit Maham further he didn't want Jodha to keep thinking about Maham (not visiting her ones) and spoil her health. So he felt it was better for him to allow her so that atleast he will have some peace that Maham left Agra with clear mind.

Originally posted by: deejagi

I vouch your words Manis but not because CVs may think of TRP but because Jalal and others are very well aware that Jodha is not doing something horrible which ay affect her physical condition. Just by visiting Maham in prison will not affect her health so much to affect the kids in her womb.

Jalal is watching Ruqu's each and every step so he will realize what went wrong and how instantly but Ruqu may use the absent mindedness of Jalal during his mourning for Maham and may plot something but I still think she will not do any harm to Jodha till such time she gives birth to kids.

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Excellent write up Mansi .

I completely agree with Diksha's prediction about Jalal running away from facing the finality of Maham's passing away . Your thoughts on Jodha understanding Jalal's innermost feelings about Maham is also absolutely right .

The main reason why Jodha took the first step towards forgiving Mahamanga was because she understood ( without him having to share it with her) her husband's true feelings of love towards the lady that he had once addressed Badi Ammi, whom he has now severed ties with and imprisoned . By forgiving Maham , she also opened doors of communication between Jalal and Maham , thus enabling him not to have feelings of regret or remorse after her passing away .

She beautifully explained to Hamida Begum , Salima, Gulbadan Begum and Rukkaiyya😡 that one cannot ignore all the positive things that Maham has done for Jalal , and that if weighed on a scale , her positives contributions would outweigh her negative ones .

Paridhi was awesome today . Worried for Maham's sinking health , calm , yet clear headed and strong in her convictions of wanting to do the right thing to set straight the strained relationship between her husband and his dying Badi Ammi . It is precisely this sensitivity towards others , her kind heartedness, her calm dignified stance even during the toughest situations , her standing up for the truth , that make her truly 'noble' .

I loved the precap where we saw her applying Jalal's own crooked tactics on him to reveal his innermost feelings about Mahamanga . I cannot wait to watch both of them in action tomorrow .

Rukkaiyya😡 has crossed all limits of decency and selfishness . For a queen who was hand in glove with Mahamanga in plotting against Jodha and Jalal , she has not an iota of sympathy towards the dying Maham . She has the nerve to enlist Maham's minuses . Wake up Rukkaiyya ! Look at yourself in the mirror . What you are doing to Jalal and Jodha is far worse than Maham's plotting . She had the nerve to hold Jodha's hand and question her move . I would love to see her reaction when she finds out that it is Jalal who gave Jodha the freedom to meet with Mahamanga .

I loved the interaction between the cute niece and even cuter Mamujaan today . It was endearing . I wish to see Jalal and Jodha playing with their babies without Rukkaiyya 😡 hovering in the vicinity .

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

What an emotional post..Your green comments in the end churned my emotions and welled my eyes. How true.. But Does not MA understand one thing? That no one ever can take a mothres place in your life.. She has a seperate place in his heart and a wife has a seperate place though both are equally important .. Her greed and obssession for power made her loose her most priceless possession...her son.. But though she may have loved her only for her selfish reasons ..he had always loved her as his mother.. may be the good memories were washed away by her bad deeds.. but of course his heart will ache for her.

Originally posted by: -Gitanjali-

Mansi great post and I agree tthat Jajal is soon going to soften with Maham but at the moment he is in conflict

but Mansi another pattern is emerging . Jalal is again and again saying in a resigned way that you will do whatever you wants. It seems he is resigned to the fact that Jodha does what she wants and has no respect for his decisions and is always trying to change them

I think this is going to set the tone for a track to come. I dont know what but Jalal and every one else seems convinced that Jodha does not listen and does whatever her heart tells her.

This may lead to Rukkaiya taking advantage of the situations and comming up with a plan where Jodha is blamed for something big. As it is we know babies are going to die so may be she will get blamed for that and thereby bringing distance between Jodha and Jalal

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

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Jaya I am not against Jo going and meeting her as we know she feels for everybody.But still meeting MA was harmful in the sense that what if the persistent cough MA had was TB and it is contagious right? If if it was not TB and some viral but if it is contagious then Jo catching the infection is scary.Again it was 16th century ,so no advanced medical treatments.And in this century too ,the doctors also tell the pregnant ladies to avoid visiting such people Becoz there are limitations for doctors too in giving medicines to the pregnant ladies.