Ruku Acts Smart, Jalal Keeps Her in Check - Uptd Pg 22 (Sept12 epi) - Page 25

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB


sindhu, i have always fought for Jodha even i wl fight fr her till my last day with this show infact already u have also know it. but today i could haven't vouched he b/c the fact is i didn't get any motherly nature in Jodha. She was almost whole time smiling in DEK as like as she was now freeing frm burden. After hearing ruq's demand of guarantee mohol she was like she got hurt that ruq didn't trust her but she had no any emotional breaking down to sacrifice her children. Then her comparing her own flesh n blood with bheet,remaining cool n calm fully these all r shown like ludicrous! Every moment she is feeling the entity of her kids in her womb but there isn't happening any bleeding in her heart to sacrifice 1 of them forever! Koyi ma asa kaisai ho saktai hai! Infact today i saw how much sharply a crow was guarding her kids in nest n when it got sense of my presence its started to yelp. Today Jodha was looking fully alien,feelingless ma!



hopefully tomorrow we get a JO talking to Moti and we will be fine.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

@maddy: i m not accusing jodha is gullible b/c she is blindly believing ruq but my only demand was i wanted to see her crumbling down solely in her hojrai,to ask forgivness near her kids for separating them,her dialogues's resolution thats it. These bheet,her calmness were pathetic. Infact MS also showed his nuisance expression to see kid baatowara in DEK then as mother of twins how could she have remained so mum n jolly!



Nabiii the day is still continuing in JA. Did you see in precap? Jodha and Jalal are in the same costume she wore today. Jodha went to meet MA in same costume. When Jalal asked her what happened to her forehead Jodha was coming back from meeting MA.

Also NOW Jodha has both her babies inside her so this will hit her or she will feel it when she is alone. Atleast now Jodha will not show any reaction to Jalal of her pain. If she does then it will be like showing a red rag to a bull. He will be more upset.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Today Jodha's behavior has gave me huge disheartening infact i m furious on her. As a religious supporter of jodha its painful for me.
But i m glad to see Jalal's action. Is he sensing something is cooking in ruq's head?
I hope Jalal wl keep eyes on ruq's every step frm now.
Jodha is hopeless in this track my only wish is the resolution of her dialogues.
Gud night frnds.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

@maddy: i m not accusing jodha is gullible b/c she is blindly believing ruq but my only demand was i wanted to see her crumbling down solely in her hojrai,to ask forgivness near her kids for separating them,her dialogues's resolution thats it. These bheet,her calmness were pathetic. Infact MS also showed his nuisance expression to see kid baatowara in DEK then as mother of twins how could she have remained so mum n jolly!


Nabii, ditto...I have always tried to defend Jo, but todayi just cannot muster the argument...today jodha was not nek dil...she was heartless for her kids...for me it is anyway too late for a self talk, if AT all it should, have happened before DEK scene, and after the tarazu scene...
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Posted: 11 years ago
Guys,tmrw jodha wl go to serve maham forgetting her donation. So,i have no hope to see her crumbling down for her kids.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: tamy267

I absolutely loved Jalal and I am so proud of him today...I was elated to see TE is indeed back...and see the trust level between Jalal and Ruqaiyya...he doesnt trust her at all!! the first thing he did in DEK was to make her aware that the kid she will get wont have any rights to claim the throne! Jalal knows Ruqaiyya's fixation to audha...throughout the episode he was utterly pissed...and thanks to Ruqaiyya for making him cringe more with her second wish...his shout "ab aur kya chahiye aapko?" totally explained his level of anger...!

agar Ruqaiyya sherni hai toh Jalal sawa Sher hai...he is no less...he used his brain and made her write second farmaan with the shaahi mauhar immediately! look at the irritation all over his face as if he was loathing her!

Jodha ke baare mein kya bolu...li'l disappointed hearing the logic she gave to Jalal in hojra..I wish CVs could show the sadness of her when alone..but CVs didnt which is a drawback..Jalal even asked "toh aapko dard nahi hota?" I will wait for tomorrow to see her reactions when alone...but it is true that a mother would be at most pain at the very thought of it..may be Jodha isn't showing it to anyone but she is in pain..woh maa hai aur usske liye yeh sabse mushkil hai.

Ruqaiyya uddrahi hai...let her fly..bahut jald uske pankh kaatne wala hai Jalal.



Tamy that time Jodha could not have shown him her pain. Jalal was upset and if Jodha had cried he would have been furious that why she agreed and upset why he listened to Jodha.
The episode is still on same day, in precap Jalal and Jodha are in same clothes at night after she has been to meet MA.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chitterati


Nabii, ditto...I have always tried to defend Jo, but todayi just cannot muster the argument...today jodha was not nek dil...she was heartless for her kids...for me it is anyway too late for a self talk, if AT all it should, have happened before DEK scene, and after the tarazu scene...



Will we get to see a fb? Cos yesterday episode Jalal and Jodha had not finalized this. Jodha told him her thoughts and Jalal said it is late and they should sleep and went off. So how did he suddenly call DEK? So maybe we might get fb.

They could have shown Jodha talk wtih Kanha and say that she is doing this for the happiness of a barren woman and for her husband's honor. She should ask Kanha for supporting what will be right for her babies. We might get a scene cos ME is of 1 hour and Jodha won't be spending this much time with MA!

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO

I have read some posts on this thread so just giving my pov.

It does not matter if Ruk did some mischief while writing the farman. This is Shehenshah's word and Marium uz Makani who was a witness. So was Hoshiyaar and the Court Clerk. So even if Ruk has written something else - it is always going to be Shehenshah's word as final.

Secondly I also want to see Jodha self talks and her shown sad. However the dialogues between Jalal and Jodha today gave Jalal the idea about asking Ruk to sign the farman.

Jalal is thinking what is Ruk's game why she is not happy. Jalal today also told Ruk that the first child baby with Jodha will be the waris for the takht.

Jalal was upset about the addition Ruk asked to put. Jodha is giving the baby so completely with love that she felt since we are giving her the baby why not make it fully hers? Jalal asked why Ruk needed that? Jodha said she was feeling insecure. Then Jalal asked Jodha why she is not feeling bad - just for a fleeting moment Jodha had hint of sadness but she did not let it show. Jodha said he is right since all his children will call Ruk Badi Ammi why did she even ask for this baby? She would have beeb Badi Ammi anyway. So Jodha meant to tell Jalal that just by calling Badi Ammi does not become the child Ruk's so she wanted to make it hers. This she told Jalal and he said I know what you are telling me.

It was atrocious that Jalal agreed to Ruk that the child will only be hers. Just as Jodha's child will be his and Jodha's the 2nd baby should have been his and Ruk's. Jalal should have insisted on it being so.

I have one technical question here - Abhay might know or someone else.

What if Jalal is so upset with Ruk for some reason and says he will divorce her and he had done this. Then also would Ruk can lay claim to becoming MUZ?
The child will always remain Jalal and Jodha's by blood - even if legally Ruk's. So no matter what Ruk says - Jalal as Shehenshah can find any loophole.

Jalal got Ruk to sign farman about taking proper care of the baby - whether Ruk does this is something JALAL will judge. So if tomorrow he sees Ruk guzzling hukka Jalal can say she is not caring about child's safety.

For a Teda Shehenshah who rules how hard it will be to even engineer something to show Ruk is not a good mother.

Jalal has basically taken control back of the legal right to his baby - to him and Jodha.




Maddy,
You have asked the question also and answered it as well. As per my reading on Mughal Titles, MUZ in simple sense means the Lady who gives a heir and is important because her son will become the Emperor...This is what we have watched in the Show also,,,
But this is not correct...No matter you give heir or not, you will get importance ONLY if the Emperor genuinely loves so...REAL Jodha was on same lines..😉..
For More...See here.. This is self explanatory.. >> 102595991

Moreover, Akbar DID favor Murad over Salim in imp. campaigns..This again nullifies the clause that ONLY the Elder Son could be the Emperor...Becoz for Akbar all 3 sons were the same..😉
I will send a short PM to you on this issue later..
Can NOT write HARDCORE HISTORICAL stuff here
on Pals' thread...😊


Coming to show
, Ruqs thinks that by gaining a son of Jodha whom she will MAKE Emperor, she can get that IMPORTANCE...This has nothing to do with Divorce, and Maddy Jalal will NOT divorce Ruqs in any case...It is a very big issue..😊...

In a nutshell, Ruqs wants a SON who can become an Emperor, so that she can have her POWER INTACT.!!!.. In more specific terms, she could NOT become MUZ but she wants the IMPORTANCE which comes with this title of MUZ.. Though, in reality you do not need the title but the support of Emperor., which RUQS is going to LOSE, as the want of POWER has made her Blind..!!!!!!

Samjhe.?.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Tamy that time Jodha could not have shown him her pain. Jalal was upset and if Jodha had cried he would have been furious that why she agreed and upset why he listened to Jodha.
The episode is still on same day, in precap Jalal and Jodha are in same clothes at night after she has been to meet MA.


agreed Maddy...this is why I said I will wait for tomorrow.😳
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Guys,tmrw jodha wl go to serve maham forgetting her donation. So,i have no hope to see her crumbling down for her kids.

Maham ko khaana khilane jayegi issi liye toh usse Maham ki ankhri saans pe dua milegi..salam milega😊 maarte waqt insaan ki dua qubool hoti hai.

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