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Wow...it's approximately 30 pages. I have read few pages but go through later.. its very intellectual and mind stimulating posts. Currently busy...will comment later. Just want to say that this thread is like a bloom of lotus from mud of negativity in this forum.
Fabulous post Pallavi 👏
Exactly! If Jodha ON HER OWN does something she is called names for going behind back, not telling Jalal etc.
Jodha is a QUEEN and pregnant why should she stand guard? Jodha had asked BB openly about the wound on her face (when BB had gifted her some jewelry) and BB had lied saying she banged int something. When Jalal asked BB openly why her cheek is red and BB had lied again and said cos she is pregnant. Jalal had even said so is Jodha but she does not get such marks. Even after this BB told Jalal and Jodha that SD takes good care of her!
How would anybody else know what happens between BB and SD unless she tells them.
Jodha has so many things of her going on. Still it was Jodha who went to Jalal and told him first thing on coming back to Agra.
Jodha was literally PUSHED out of her hojara by BB, what else she could have done? Why should Jodha face BB insults all the time. BB is pathetic in blaming Jodha for her husband's crass cheap behavior.
Jodha went to Jalal cos ONLY he can get BB to talk and punish SD.
Considering how rudely BB behaved with her ONLY Jodha still tried to help her and support BB. It is another matter that BB is utterly ungrateful!
What did BB achieve today? By telling everybody including Jalal that it is between husband and wife - BB has given open invitation to SD to hit her. Cos now he will say go tell your family - he knows BB won't and he can become more brazen with BB.
Originally posted by: myviewprem
yep but in all holy book it says helping the meek and innocent is biggest duty of strong ones too
Originally posted by: chitterati
Yet Sujamal not once raised his hand on Jalal and even saved his life. Khair Jalal more than made up for his harsh behaviour with Jo, while sharif will only get worse with bb
Originally posted by: ayushimehra
It's ideally good for a woman to defend herself against harassment herself. But when it is practically not possible today, how could it have been possible then?Radhika, Yes it is practically, not possible today,, But jodha, said to Bakshi, Say on talk freely, when HB, & all females were sitting in Bakshi Hozara, But Bakshi, not used this situation.Actually, BB, is too much Inscure, +attached +dependenant to her Husband. Or its a reality in 21 cen,;;;;;;;;;Ruk & Jodha HB, salima contains a strong willpower, But BB, afraidness is lacking her will power, & she is going or Mind confusion, jone.The problem here is that the perpetrator is a member of the family - an ESTEEMED member of the family.Agree.If he had been an outsider, Jodha would have killed him by now. But he is Jalal's brother-in-law. Even JAlal himself holds back from punishing his brothers-in-law. Then how can Jodha go ahead?Yes, Jodha , sure, present this matter than DEK, or Matter result, sure clears or comes, but we will see Monday episoode, clearing this situation, Then moto of this track will be slove.Whether we like it or not, women were, and still are, conditioned to think of their husbands like God. Like someone rightly pointed out, they had no aim in life except to get married and devote their lives to their husbands and kids. If the husband died, they killed themselves too. Even if they lived, life s toowas colourless for them.This, is real practically situation, we can't deney this. Improvement is coming, But improvement coming is not easy, thing, practically tough, but efforts are carring own, 16 or 21 cen;;;;;;;;;;;;;So HOPE OR IMPROVEMENT IS BEST WEAPON., But Actions, also going to start, This is a, Little Breathe.I do not want to go into details here. But when my father died, the rituals that my mother had to go through made me cry for days. This is NOW. I shuddered to think - is this what a woman is worth at the end of a day - a piece of nothingness without her husband???Sorry for your Father, but yes Rituals, Which comes, thats also very painful., Even not tolrable,;;;;;;;;;Once i asked my grandMother, Why rituals very tough, after Husband, death,Her ans was,;;;;;;;;;;;;Acc to her, Female , should realise, Now your life iis going to be tough, bigger then rituals, this is a start. ;;;;;;;;;;But is't it not realty, even 21 cen, I know its wrong, i recalled, Raja, rammohan ray reforms;;;;;;;;;;;why needed, because he knows, Conservative society., But i asked, My grandmother Widow, at the age of 20, but Her will power was very strong, Her ans was, This is the Key, to Live a Life.without this you can't survive.In my neighbour, a 20 years Girl, became widow, two childs. Every one is saying, please, arrange, this Girl second marriage, but,;;;;;;because child will go to her Mother, so this decesion, not taking her inlaws.;;;;;;;;;;so this real situation, in 21 cen. but changing also coming, we ca.n't deney that.Even today, harassment by family members and even incest is alive but kept hidden. In any corner of the world.Agree, but Real truth.Like you said, the woman is considered to be at fault even if the husband is abusive or deserts her.Bakshi is mentally weak and not up to the challenge of standing up to her husband. This is the bitter truth. It's not a question of physical strength but mental.Yes, BB, is mentally weak;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i think, she knows, sharrif has no chance to improve.Jodha is herself pregnant with twins. She has already undergone more than her fair share of torture during her pregnancy. She cannot be expected to burden herself further to help Bakshi here.Actually, jodha is creating space, directely, or indirectely, or BB not using, cause, of loosing her husband;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Reality is thiis, Her husband is not her, but she not accepts thiis. butn. ques is not wrong Right, ques is she not wants, any step, against sharrif.If Jodha were to visit their hojra at night, SD can do anything - a man who can use a secret tunnel to visit her hojra or touch her in front of his wife, can do anything. At that time, the royal family will question her vigilante attitude. Even Jalal will ask her why she undertook such a risk instead of informing him.Agree, i think,jodha understands, Sharrif, intansions. she is Quite, but soon we will see, Jodha, Ragvanci awater.Anyway, it's not lack of guards or maids. It's a matter between a husband and a wife. At night, who can dare to enter the bedroom of a couple to check on them? No one.Agree, Sharrif knows, BB is weak, or he is misusing thiis point.Bakshi has never been nice to Jodha. Even in th Ratanpur Qila case, she had let down Jodha badly in front of Jalal.e again maligned Jodha's character in the FP case. Since she learnt of SD's interest in Jodha, she has been resentful of her and rude, even forgetting that she and her husband have been taken back into the family fold only because of Jodha's efforts.Agree,But BB should little strong,. She is leaving all things, Bhagan, Bhoorese.she is more creating space for Sharrif.I would say Jodha, for her age, has shown extraordinary maturity in behaving in a friendly and helpful manner with Bakshi, in spite of all this. How much more out of the way can she go for Bakshi?Further, the royal family has generally looked askance at Jodha's efforts to be kind / helpful to anyone. When neither Bakshi nor her family welcomes Jodha's interference in her marriage, how can she jump in, at the cost of upsetting her own marriage and other relations?I think, if Our friend, or Anyother Positive is creating space, One step, comes, desesion by Own, so front person can help you. But if we withdarw, how can he or she help.But here responsibilty goes to Two.1, Front person should be Brave, Because he or she knows, Which person they helping, Is very weak, Mentally+Physically.2, Weak person should show some faith, Then probelm sloving is long Process, but you will reach,effort Jone, But if Victim, not want to use these things, Helper Duty, is also very tough then.So lets see, This a Team work, Or Everyhuman Right Work, wants to Handle delicate+Understanding +patiance Manner. Or Long chain behind this.Then resultes will come, to Start;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But, this procees will take more time.But now things are doing to sort out this problem. Its a Poistive, thing.
Originally posted by: JAfanCharu
Beautifully written Rashmi . I loved your last sentence " Spirituality is the journey of one going from God fearing to God loving . Immensely profound . I think the same way too .
Radhika wonderful post. You are trying to understand BB and her behavior.
My posts were about HOW BB is doing more harm to herself. She is in such a state that she is not able to see that she is not helping herself or her daughter.I agree with your POV, Maddy.
I agree totally how strong or weak a person is does not depend on background or royalty. However, if a Shehjadi, sister of the all powerful Shehenshah is so easily physically abused and she just takes it then what can anybody expect of the awam? What about the women who might not have family support and are abused? Do they just take it or do they stand up for their own kids atleast to save them - seeing as this is 16th Century!Maddy, I have seen that upper middle class women put up with more abuse at home than the poor. The poor have no image to sustain. So they are open about everything. A poor woman has nothing to lose if she leaves her husband and tries to manage alone. She was, is and will always be vulnerable. But she's used to the rough side of life and can take it on the chin.The upper middle class women feel embarrassed to talk about their abuse - they feel it will "spoil " their image of being a happily / successfully married woman. A popular former actress kept quiet about spousal abuse even when she got a divorce.Even in the 16th century, I perceive it would be easier for an ordinary woman to raise her voice against her husband and may be approach the king than it would be for someone from the king's family to do the same. Because royalty has an image to sustain.
Let us consider BB has a support system - all those women who are victims and might not even have 5% of her support system still they find the courage to fight if not for their own sake but for their children's sake.If a woman has mental strength, she will take on anyone, whether alone or having a support system. A support system can only help you if you let it. It cannot fight your battles for you.
Jodha was today physically pushed by BB still she went to Jalal and told him everything, made him aware that not in anger he has to find out reason why BB felt need to lie.
When Jalal had openly asked BB about mark on her cheek she had said it was due to pregnancy and SD takes very good care of her. So how would anybody else come to know about SD abusing her? BB has hidden the marks from everybody. Jodha has asked her once long back that time also BB had lied to her.
All BB seems to care about SD and her fear that he might leave her. BB does not seem to care about Jalal also much. When SD had told her Jalal might not return alive from war BB seemed ok with the idea that HER child might be the next in line to throne.
If we imagine the worst case scenario, say if SD had managed to kill Jalal - would SD for a day also spare BB's life? SD does not care about BB she is just a meal ticket to him. If BB does not care about Jalal she should atleast understand that her ONLY safety and support is Jalal and her family.This is the sad state of affairs, Maddy. A woman would rather throw her lot with a rotten husband than demonstrate loyalty towards her brother or family. Call it tradition, upbringing, conditioning, whatever ... this is how women in India think.Do you remember in the separation track, MAinavati took a subtle route to let Jodha know that her ultimate destination was Agra? She never seriously tried to find out why Jodha had gone into a shell or had been forced to leave her home.BB probably has never taken the trouble to think too much about her future with SD. So she likely has never considered that SD can kill her one day. If she could think as much as you expect, she would be atotally different person.
Today BB did another silly thing - granted she could not stand to see SD punished by everybody but by saying that it was a matter between husband and wife and she has no complaints - BB has further given SD open invitation. Now he won't even care about Jalal and HB reactions if he beats up BB - she herself removed the one fear SD had from his mind.I agree. This point bothered me too.
How is BB helping herself? Granted she is desperate to save her marriage - what if SD tries to kill the daughter? Will BB still wring her hands and say she loves him?
Sorry to say, but true. I expect she will accept anything, even harm to her kids, in the false belief that she is being true to her husband.
I am afraid it is going to come to a choice between her daughter and SD for BB soon - she has tied everybody's hands and by the time she comes to her senses it might be too late for her daughter.I agree. I wonder if she will come to her senses even then. Women even today abort their girl child or kill the girl child in infancy by burying them alive, just to maintain their marriage.
Can we imagine Jalal's condition? As a brother he is horrified that his own sister is facing this abuse in HIS home and he is helpless to do anything cos she is telling him to stay away, she has no complaint. What if some woman complains and the man from awam tomorrow says you can't even safeguard your own sister - how can you ask awam to behave better with women?True - she has put him earlier in a tough spot before the awaam and she is doing it again.
BB is failing to see what Jalal and Jodha are seeing clearly - that she is not helping herself nor her daughter.