Birbal & JA Twins Entry, Ruq Downfall Sep 27 Updt Pg 60; DTNTPg15 - Page 21

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Posted: 11 years ago
@abhay: lol, don't b shock. I never wants Ruq comes back in Jalal's life like before. Ruq is the most hatred character in JA to me frm starting time. Simultaneously i extremely dislike to see ruq-jj triangle related track always. I has to remain always Jalal is only for Jodha in JodhaAkbar serial. So if maham discloses the mystery of miscarriage then there is possiblity an emotional patching up amid ruq n jalal that may halt their almost breaking relationship n i never imagine by mistake this now as i have been eagerly waiting to see it since a long time.😛 Anyways,this is my personal wish.
However, why r u thinking abt Jalal's remaining childless till date? Jalal is gonna to b father of his the most beloved wife's children so the sorrow is filled in his mind it wl b terminated for sure today or tmrw by Jodha bringing double happiness. So,whats necessary to know bitter past of maham's involvement with miscarriage who is taking bid adieu frm this universal? Then wl Jalal enable to pardon maham who wl seek forgiveness standing before the door of death? moreover, there was no maham till salim's birth nevertheless Jalal lost his children many times. how can we explain this cruelty?
perhaps,this is called the game of destiny😊.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lasyap3

I am just going to write my predictions here. Please don't kill me for this as this would be worst expected NR, and CVs ka kya bharosa ki kuch aisa bhi dikhayenge😕. I am not being sadistic in my thoughts, just trying to go in their way---


Ruqaiyya might get one of the kids, or the SECOND one of the BOY twins.
Then, she might try to harm Jodha's kid, so that only her son is survived and then she might become Mariam Uz Zamani.
or
She might use her second wish for becoming Mariam Uz Zamani

Then what about Maham Anga and Resham trying to poison the kids??
This is not possible, as Resham might try to attack Jalal rather than harm the kids, which is near to history.

Then where does this Zee man saying Maham exposing Ruqaiyya fit in this??
I think Ruq will do something dreadful and get caught red handed herself and will face Jalal's punishment and thus she is exposed.😃

P.S:I am just skipping Sharifuddin' s issue here.🥱

P.P.S: Sorry for this post coz I am just mocking these CVs for heights of NR,esp, Ruqaiyya going to DEK was something so undigestable😆


no dear, this is the 1st time maham may have no shajesh n showing her remorse she wl say gud bye forever frm the universal.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB


no dear, this is the 1st time maham may have no shajesh n showing her remorse she wl say gud bye forever frm the universal.


I agree with you Nabii, you have a point😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

@Nabiii...
I don't know what to say on your comment...It is shocking..😆...
Jalal should know who was that conspirator due to whom he remained childless...By knowing this, at least he will get rid of the guilt that is "supposed" to be buried deep in him, that he did something wrong with MA...😕...



@Lasya
Nice advice for Ruqs...And, your views on this track are similar to many of us..😉


@al_pal
Yes, you are correct that Jalal did not understand Ruqs intentions...Though, later he asked her for Khurram to be allowed time with his mom..



@Ayushi
Your thoughts on Jodha are perfect...Self Talks are needed...Even if she has agreed to give her Kid to Ruqs, then also, CV's need to show some inner turmoil..But, they focus on other stuff instead of this...I think, today or next week we may see this..





I just glanced at some posts about Jodha and her reaction, self talks needed absolutely. However, about yesterday's episode there are 2 imp points I want to make

Firstly - if Jodha had given even a HINT to Jalal that she is feeling very sad and miserable about her decision - Jalal would have blown his top! He was in barely controlled rage since morning and IF Jodha had cried in front of him saying I am going to lose my one baby - Jalal might have gone to Ruk and tore the farman.

Jalal would have been upset at Jodha for doing this and upset with HIMSELF for letting her do this. So for his sake Jodha had to not show any emotions to Jalal.

Secondly - the ENTIRE Jodha Jalal scene had a DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

Jalal was upset about having made the decision and after the stunt Ruk pulled in DEK FIRST time his antenna went up ABOUT Ruk's motives. Before this Jalal had been caught up in Ruk's drama and GENUINELY seemed to have thought Ruk is craving a baby. This is WHY he went to Ruk's hojara to console her EVEN AFTER HIS PUBLIC INSULT by Ruk in DEK.

Jodha does not suspect a thing. She felt that if we are giving the baby let us do it fully. This legal thing is something Jodha did not understand cos SO FAR Jodha is thinking she will have full access to her baby - somewhat similar to she gets with Rahim. Jodha does not have rights over Rahim but she gets to love him like her own son with SB.

Jodha telling Jalal that since their babies would have called Ruk Badi Ammi why was she not satisfied was about Ruk wanting to feel it was HERS. This is the way Jodha saw it not suspecting a thing.

Next thing Jodha was trying to reassure Jalal was about Ruk being a good mother. IF JODHA HAD EVEN A DOUBT IN HER MIND THAT RUK WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE BABY SHE WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED.

So Jodha was telling Jalal Ruk will be good mother RUK WILL TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THE BABY - THIS SENTENCE GOT JALAL THE BRAINWAVE and IMMEDIATELY after Jodha said this Jalal told her he needs to do something URGENTLY and WILL MEET HER LATER.

Jalal would have gone to HB told her of his plan that is why HB was there in Ruk's hojara - she did not go to confront Ruk but AS A WITNESS to the farman Jalal made Ruk give.

It does not matter whether Ruk mis-wrote - Marium uz Makani is the WITNESS and also the court clerk.

So the scene in Jalal's hojara WAS ONLY ABOUT talking about Ruk and by what Jodha said inadvertently JALAL GOT THE BRILLIANT idea of the farman from Ruk.

This is WHY THE SCENE WAS NOT ABOUT JODHA's FEELINGS FOR THE BABIES.

Today's ME it was clear that Jodha has not registered what giving baby to Ruk means at all. Jodha and Jalal both talked about babies - Jodha said have to teach this to our babies and Jalal also has to learn. Jodha is feeling that she will have full access to her baby like with Rahim.

Precap is interesting cos I think Ruk might say something like I will name MY baby. Ruk might start taking boys names or say I want a boy and this might get Jalal's antenna up! Also Jodha might finally realize that now Ruk will control about baby and this might bring the realization what she has actually done.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



I just glanced at some posts about Jodha and her reaction, self talks needed absolutely. However, about yesterday's episode there are 2 imp points I want to make

Firstly - if Jodha had given even a HINT to Jalal that she is feeling very sad and miserable about her decision - Jalal would have blown his top! He was in barely controlled rage since morning and IF Jodha had cried in front of him saying I am going to lose my one baby - Jalal might have gone to Ruk and tore the farman.

Jalal would have been upset at Jodha for doing this and upset with HIMSELF for letting her do this. So for his sake Jodha had to not show any emotions to Jalal.

Secondly - the ENTIRE Jodha Jalal scene had a DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

Jalal was upset about having made the decision and after the stunt Ruk pulled in DEK FIRST time his antenna went up ABOUT Ruk's motives. Before this Jalal had been caught up in Ruk's drama and GENUINELY seemed to have thought Ruk is craving a baby. This is WHY he went to Ruk's hojara to console her EVEN AFTER HIS PUBLIC INSULT by Ruk in DEK.

Jodha does not suspect a thing. She felt that if we are giving the baby let us do it fully. This legal thing is something Jodha did not understand cos SO FAR Jodha is thinking she will have full access to her baby - somewhat similar to she gets with Rahim. Jodha does not have rights over Rahim but she gets to love him like her own son with SB.

Jodha telling Jalal that since their babies would have called Ruk Badi Ammi why was she not satisfied was about Ruk wanting to feel it was HERS. This is the way Jodha saw it not suspecting a thing.

Next thing Jodha was trying to reassure Jalal was about Ruk being a good mother. IF JODHA HAD EVEN A DOUBT IN HER MIND THAT RUK WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE BABY SHE WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED.

So Jodha was telling Jalal Ruk will be good mother RUK WILL TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THE BABY - THIS SENTENCE GOT JALAL THE BRAINWAVE and IMMEDIATELY after Jodha said this Jalal told her he needs to do something URGENTLY and WILL MEET HER LATER.

Jalal would have gone to HB told her of his plan that is why HB was there in Ruk's hojara - she did not go to confront Ruk but AS A WITNESS to the farman Jalal made Ruk give.

It does not matter whether Ruk mis-wrote - Marium uz Makani is the WITNESS and also the court clerk.

So the scene in Jalal's hojara WAS ONLY ABOUT talking about Ruk and by what Jodha said inadvertently JALAL GOT THE BRILLIANT idea of the farman from Ruk.

This is WHY THE SCENE WAS NOT ABOUT JODHA's FEELINGS FOR THE BABIES.

Today's ME it was clear that Jodha has not registered what giving baby to Ruk means at all. Jodha and Jalal both talked about babies - Jodha said have to teach this to our babies and Jalal also has to learn. Jodha is feeling that she will have full access to her baby like with Rahim.

Precap is interesting cos I think Ruk might say something like I will name MY baby. Ruk might start taking boys names or say I want a boy and this might get Jalal's antenna up! Also Jodha might finally realize that now Ruk will control about baby and this might bring the realization what she has actually done.

You have got some Valid points Maddy😉
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO




I just glanced at some posts about Jodha and her reaction, self talks needed absolutely. However, about yesterday's episode there are 2 imp points I want to make

Firstly - if Jodha had given even a HINT to Jalal that she is feeling very sad and miserable about her decision - Jalal would have blown his top! He was in barely controlled rage since morning and IF Jodha had cried in front of him saying I am going to lose my one baby - Jalal might have gone to Ruk and tore the farman.

Jalal would have been upset at Jodha for doing this and upset with HIMSELF for letting her do this. So for his sake Jodha had to not show any emotions to Jalal.

Secondly - the ENTIRE Jodha Jalal scene had a DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

Jalal was upset about having made the decision and after the stunt Ruk pulled in DEK FIRST time his antenna went up ABOUT Ruk's motives. Before this Jalal had been caught up in Ruk's drama and GENUINELY seemed to have thought Ruk is craving a baby. This is WHY he went to Ruk's hojara to console her EVEN AFTER HIS PUBLIC INSULT by Ruk in DEK.

Jodha does not suspect a thing. She felt that if we are giving the baby let us do it fully. This legal thing is something Jodha did not understand cos SO FAR Jodha is thinking she will have full access to her baby - somewhat similar to she gets with Rahim. Jodha does not have rights over Rahim but she gets to love him like her own son with SB.

Jodha telling Jalal that since their babies would have called Ruk Badi Ammi why was she not satisfied was about Ruk wanting to feel it was HERS. This is the way Jodha saw it not suspecting a thing.

Next thing Jodha was trying to reassure Jalal was about Ruk being a good mother. IF JODHA HAD EVEN A DOUBT IN HER MIND THAT RUK WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE BABY SHE WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED.

So Jodha was telling Jalal Ruk will be good mother RUK WILL TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THE BABY - THIS SENTENCE GOT JALAL THE BRAINWAVE and IMMEDIATELY after Jodha said this Jalal told her he needs to do something URGENTLY and WILL MEET HER LATER.

Jalal would have gone to HB told her of his plan that is why HB was there in Ruk's hojara - she did not go to confront Ruk but AS A WITNESS to the farman Jalal made Ruk give.

It does not matter whether Ruk mis-wrote - Marium uz Makani is the WITNESS and also the court clerk.

So the scene in Jalal's hojara WAS ONLY ABOUT talking about Ruk and by what Jodha said inadvertently JALAL GOT THE BRILLIANT idea of the farman from Ruk.

This is WHY THE SCENE WAS NOT ABOUT JODHA's FEELINGS FOR THE BABIES.

Today's ME it was clear that Jodha has not registered what giving baby to Ruk means at all. Jodha and Jalal both talked about babies - Jodha said have to teach this to our babies and Jalal also has to learn. Jodha is feeling that she will have full access to her baby like with Rahim.

Precap is interesting cos I think Ruk might say something like I will name MY baby. Ruk might start taking boys names or say I want a boy and this might get Jalal's antenna up! Also Jodha might finally realize that now Ruk will control about baby and this might bring the realization what she has actually done.


Yes Maddy, I want Jo to have that realisation on what has she done...right now she is blissfully unaware that there no longer hamare Bacchae ... It is only hamara Baccha! I want her to be absolutely stunned and horrified at the prospect that she may have little or no access to her child.
As much as I love(d) Jo for her selfless nature, I wanted to see Jo get selfish and protective about her children - which responsible mother wouldn't be! But I have been let down far to many times, jos is Hardly seen taking care of herself, and today she was running after Rahim! repeatedly visiting a sick MA in jail! God forbid, if she fell, or had an accident, or contracted an infection - it is very unrealistic and irresponsible behaviour of a to be mom. Agree you wanted to help MA, send a baaandi, send javeda directly, why do you need to go yourself. Jo can have compassion for MA, but what about those poor kids who deserve it more than MA and need you to protect them.
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Posted: 11 years ago

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Yes Maddy, I want Jo to have that realisation on what has she done...right now she is blissfully unaware that there no longer hamare Bacchae ... It is only hamara Baccha! I want her to be absolutely stunned and horrified at the prospect that she may have little or no access to her child.
As much as I love(d) Jo for her selfless nature, I wanted to see Jo get selfish and protective about her children - which responsible mother wouldn't be! But I have been let down far to many times, jos is Hardly seen taking care of herself, and today she was running after Rahim! repeatedly visiting a sick MA in jail! God forbid, if she fell, or had an accident, or contracted an infection - it is very unrealistic and irresponsible behaviour of a to be mom. Agree you wanted to help MA, send a baaandi, send javeda directly, why do you need to go yourself. Jo can have compassion for MA, but what about those poor kids who deserve it more than MA and need you to protect them.



Charu, Please dont come with a stick behind me..:):)

Jodha taking care of Mamanga looked okay to me. Why do we want to think of all what could have happened or what could have gone wrong. If so we can never be happy in life. Why to worry about what is going to happen because nothing is in our hands nor can we control it fully.

She actually forgot about Mamanga and only after Ruks told her she remembered what Resham told her. showing kindness to someone who is dying, in my books is okay.

Now coming to her running behind Rahim, Okay I can agree she should not have. but it was not like she was running too fast. Last year when I went to Kerala, I saw a pregnant Lady who must be like 5 to 6 months or so, she was running (it was fast in my books) to catch a bus. I am not exaggerating here. I am just telling u what I saw. There are people who just treat Pregnancy normal which to me is okay as well.

That said, I want one self talk of JO.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chitterati


Yes Maddy, I want Jo to have that realisation on what has she done...right now she is blissfully unaware that there no longer hamare Bacchae ... It is only hamara Baccha! I want her to be absolutely stunned and horrified at the prospect that she may have little or no access to her child.
As much as I love(d) Jo for her selfless nature, I wanted to see Jo get selfish and protective about her children - which responsible mother wouldn't be! But I have been let down far to many times, jos is Hardly seen taking care of herself, and today she was running after Rahim! repeatedly visiting a sick MA in jail! God forbid, if she fell, or had an accident, or contracted an infection - it is very unrealistic and irresponsible behaviour of a to be mom. Agree you wanted to help MA, send a baaandi, send javeda directly, why do you need to go yourself. Jo can have compassion for MA, but what about those poor kids who deserve it more than MA and need you to protect them.



This entire pregnancy track has been strange. Nobody seems to want to take care of Jodha. Jalal had promised her but he just reminds her from time to time to take care. That is the extent of his care! SB HB GB nobody is bothered.

Jodha wants to show she does not need any care or needs to take care.
She has truly had horrible pregnancy so far!

I think Ruk reaction is what will make Jodha realize and Jalal might get some clue!

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Posted: 11 years ago
Pregnancy is not a disease u don't need to sit and lie on bed whole day night unless its critical situation or advised by doctors

jodha is pregnant not paralised plss guys
kamal hi hai jodha every single thing id counted as gunaah

u cant see good points a queen is touching bandhi feet coz that this me she is her guru
did u saw any one doing

a queen is treating ill person with food and halkim to s bad

jalal told Jodha a dialogue of geeta

abt do your karma rest is upto god jodha doing only her karma

I never expected women will blame women in such issues realy
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



Charu, Please dont come with a stick behind me..:):)

Jodha taking care of Mamanga looked okay to me. Why do we want to think of all what could have happened or what could have gone wrong. If so we can never be happy in life. Why to worry about what is going to happen because nothing is in our hands nor can we control it fully.

She actually forgot about Mamanga and only after Ruks told her she remembered what Resham told her. showing kindness to someone who is dying, in my books is okay.

Now coming to her running behind Resham, Okay I can agree she should not have. but it was not like she was running too fast. Last year when I went to Kerala, I saw a pregnant Lady who must be like 5 to 6 months or so, she was running to catch a bus. I am not exaggerating here. I am just telling u what I saw. There are people who just treat Pregnancy normal which to me is okay as well.

That said, I want one self talk of JO.



Sindhu, you are too nice and positive a person for anyone to come after you with a stick :) . Regarding Jo, I can't defend Jo even to myself, maybe because her pregnancy is not at all positive, and she is not getting any love, care and affection from anyone including g herself. So I am personally very disappointed with how her preg track is proceeding... To top it Jo is shown doing these things which I find too unrealistic to be be done by a to be mother,let alone a mother whose children are long awaited. I do understand her compassion for Maham,but her actions on that compassion are beyond me. Ok, you visited MA but then , beyond that doing the same again seems very silly to me, javeda could have directly informed about her preg, why did Jo have to risk going there again. And mostly, I am sooo angry about lack of self talks, to me it seems Jo has no clue about the consequence of her choice of giving up her baby- which I find very immature

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