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Posted: 11 years ago
#31
hi guys. Mansi, fabulous take on the jodha jalal scene. I knew you would be able to do full justice to the scene and that is why i requested you for the detailed analysis. The scene was fabulous and your comments made it epic!!!😊 You have described the scene so well and covered almost everything. So i have nothing much to say. So i will just go chracterwise
Jalal:
He was a person who had lost everything he had. He felt betrayed in every way and was wondering the cause of why only he had to face this constant betrayal in his life. You are right mansi. Maham's curse worked like a pandora's box and let everything out. He had this stored inside him for a very long time. He had to get it out to be able to get over the past betrayals and learn from this. This will lay the foundation of the new Mughal Empire, where the treacherous mughal blood of his relatives will be replaced by the loyal people from different religions and talented people over the world. This is the first step taken by him which will help him to become Akbar The Great who was the greatest ruler hindustan ever had. Again, he found the cause of betrayal as the takht as you rightly said and tried to do away with it. He considered it the reason due to which his relatives backstabbed him. But when he is in a better state emotionally, he will realise that he must keep the people who have the same vision as him for the country as they will never backstab him for the takht. The true followers of a leaders vision stay with him till their last breath, like how people stayed with Gandhi till he very end and were willing to sacrifice their life for him. He will develop the sense of judging people due to this hard time he has undergone.

Jodha:
Well she did everything she could and did it in the most perfect way. I think jodha understood finally the reason why jalal kept saying that he was lonely finally. She now knows about his past how everybody left him or turned against him. She must also have figured out why he declared to everyone that he did not have a heart as he must have thought that all the pain comes from the heart. So if he didnt have feelings or develop closeness with anyone, he wouldn't face the pain of heartbreak. She beautifully reached out to him in his moment of distress and cuddled him in her arms telling him that he was not alone ever and she will always be there for him. Jalal knew that she loved him and also unconditionally as he got to know from the ben and atifa track. But the fact that she would always stand by him and love him forever assured him that he had finally met the person who he had longed for all his life who loved him and not the king in him. His mother hamida's words have come true what she had told him just before ben track ended. Today, when he has gained jodha' love his emptiness is filled and he slept in her arms like a tired child curls up in his mather's lap.

Maham:
Well i just dont know what to say about this psychotic woman and as I said, I dont feel an ounce of sympathy. I believe i the concept of karma and you maham have got it back for keeping jalal childless. I dont understand the extreme Maham obsession by the creatives. They could have continued the jalal and jodha scene for longer like jodha takes jalal to her room and makes him lie down and caresses his head. But no we get MA screeching about the curse. I feel if cvs could have given us the NR of curse, then they well could have given a slap by jodha to maham!!
Thanks mansi once again.😳


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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: surochitadutta

Today as the all mighty Sahansha stood numb
infront of the Insaf Ka Tarazoo after loosing his
very last connection with his childhood , recalling
the poisonous words uttered by the lady who has
raised him, who was once his mother, his Badi
Ammi... Made him realise the heavy price he had
to pay for being The SAHANSHA OF MUGHAL
SULTANATE...
Unable to bear this he resorted to vigorous
drinking to erase his pain in DEK.. The pain is
choking him, the ghost of his past is haunting
him, the fear of losing his children is disturbing
him and he realised it was all because of thakt
on which he sits everyday.. The reason for his
suffering is this "Taakt"... His own people
betrayed him to get this "Taakt " on which he
sits and rules... His own people who was 'Aziz'
to him told that they love him was actually
pretending to be affectionate to fulfill their own
ambition from the powers which are associated
with "THE TAAKT, He lost all those whom he
loved from his Khan Baba to his Atga Sahab
because "THE Taakt".. He paid a heavy price
throughout all this years to get this "Taakt " and
to retain it... The price of being The SAHANSHA,
The Price of being "Invincible", was the life and
love of his near and dear ones... He realised that
the root cause of all his agony and discontent
was "Taakt Of Mughal Sultanate " so he decided
to uproot that very cause and without even
giving a second thought he burned "The Taakt "
to end this agony once and for all...
While all these feelings were going on in his
mind his Heart was engulfed and overwhelmed
by the feeling of loneliness... This loneliness was
killing him from inside and finally when Jodha
came he brought out all of his agony, his
aghast, his anger, his anguish, his pain, his
frustration, his loneliness which he has been
feeling all these years...
Jodha perfectly understood him and his needs...
SHE understood that the only thing he needs
was her love, her support, her warmth, her
closeness... She knew that the only thing which
can heal his aching heart was her love, the only
thing that can remove his loneliness was her
warmth, the only thing that can give him peace
was her embrace... So she with all her love
pulled him close and assured him and reminded
him that their relationship is not because of his
"Taakt" or "Taj"... She did not love him because
he is The SAHANSHA... She loves Jalal the man
and continue to do so till eternity... She will
always be there for him and with him no matter
how worst the situation may be... She will
always be there with him even if their parents,
friends and children leaves his side... His Jodha
will forever be with him even after they have long
left this materialistic world... By her words he
found new hope and a new reason to survive
and peacefully fell asleep as soon as she took
him in her warm embrace.. He slept like a child
in the arms of the person with whom he feels
safe and protected and loved forgetting all his
sufferings and worries... Today they merged into
eachother in every way and became one entity
From Here begins a new phase a new journey
with the hope of a better tomorrow where there
will be so much love, respect and togetherness
of a lifetime... From here begins the "EPIC LOVE
STORY " which will be told and retold in every
era to come... Life will take their test and that
also the toughest one but with eachothers Saath
they will not only withstand these tests but also
pass with flying colours ... From today Jodha
became Jalals shadow and in every sense his
"Wali Nimat "

Their love and togetherness will rise as a sun
which comes after a long dark night which will
give warmth light, life and happiness to the
entire Hindustan... And Hindustan will only keep
thriving and prospering under their
guardianship...
Us Pavitra Agni main jaal ke woh Singhashan swach aur Paap mukt ho gaya hai and from now on whatever Decisions will be made, whatever justice will be delivered, and whatever laws will be made will be written down in the history with Golden words... This is just the beginning... Beginning of a journey which will make a boy king into Akbar The Great who along with his Biggest support his wife, His Mariam UZ Zamani will create a greater Hindustan where love, peace,brotherhood, truth and justice will prevail...

Today I found that Akbar And Marriam Uz Zamani
about whom I have read in Abhay's post in
Eakta's Jalal and Jodha.. Today it showed us the
beginning of the The eternal and divine love
which was there between Akbar and MUZ and
will be there between them till the end of time...
This is what I have always wanted to see in the
show and I am glad that I am finally getting what
I wanted...



beautifull post...i had goosebumps while reading the post..yes indeed akbar the grt along with his beloved wife MUZ has started yesterday...once agian thanks for the beautiful post
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



Yes we should call Zee and ask. Also do not forget to thank them for this strong JJ and just to keep JJ like this with no MUs..


Dear Dont afraid for misunderstanding...becoz it increase their trust n love ..

.if u notice during benzir track...maham created misunderstanding by letter..but due to tat jodha realise she wants to b with jalal...she started accepting jalal as her husband...

during sujamal track again ..maham created misunderstanding but jalal trust incerses on jodha ...even during khyber he didnt blame her...or put finger on her character...

now atifa's track...again maham plan...but jodha com to know tat jallal only love jodha...

again n again with every misunderstanding created by villain...their trust increase...n love tooo...

so dont worry abt tat...but if there is no MU...then there is no trp...no love...so it is needed but it will increse ther love...they will becom desparate for each ther...so dont worry
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
Take a bow to your analysis. How beautifully you have expressed Jalal's innermost turmoil and how Jodha comforted Jalal. I do not have anything more to say as you have said it all.

I loved yesterdays episode as I have already erased the Mamanga curse from my mind. For the first time I enjoyed Mamanga because of Jodha. Jodha was graceful dignified authoritative. We have had overdose of Mamanaga and I really hope we do not get to see her next week. Her mental state as of yesterday points that either she is going insane or into depression. Hope she gets to die soon as well.

JJ scene really touched my heart. I hope CVS keep JJ like this and bring no MUs between them. Let them face the world together. Paridhi and Rajat were fabulous yesterday.

When I saw Ruks in Precap I thought about you and Maddy. :):) Since we all are hoping RUks will bring some trouble we may get to see the opposite.Not sure what CVS have in store for us..



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Amazing post well said👍🏼👏😳http://k.b5z.net/i/u/2181946/i/Animated_Beautiful_Work_1.gif
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36
Mansi , post my views later...😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ___PARI___

Amazing post well said👍🏼👏😳http://k.b5z.net/i/u/2181946/i/Animated_Beautiful_Work_1.gif

Very correct , truthful and practical statement .


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautifully written post . I am a huge fan of your writing Mansi . Even when I was not a member of the forum , I would look forward to reading your daily summary . Your in-depth description of each scene involves perfect use of imagery , it is almost like watching the characters perform while reading your analysis .

Yesterday's episode , left me with mixed feelings .

Positive ones , at the manner in which Jodha handled an emotionally broken Jalal , whose world had come crashing down , due to the spate of horrific incidents in his life . I loved the scene when she assured the vicious Badi Ammi that none of her curses would have any effect on her Shehenshah . (Initially I was taken aback at the scene , wondering why on earth did Jodha present herself in front of this mean , wicked , woman ) . However the more I thought about it , that scene made sense , it was a calm "Durga " ( Jodha ) in human form , warning the evil ( Mahamanga ) that she ( Shakti ) is there and always will be , to protect her husband . At this time , I'm also recalling the prophecies of the parrot ( during the Benazir fiasco ) that Jodha is going to be Jalal's protector and savior from difficulties and negativity all his life . She will be his "ardhangini " in the truest sense .

I loved Paridhi's portrayal of the understanding , caring , strong wife . She was a mother , mentor , soother , wife and Jalal's STRENGTH , blended into one . She was like a ray of sunshine in Jalal's darkest moment . Paridhi was OUTSTANDING yesterday . Rajat as the powerful yet helpless , lonely emperor struggling to fight his emotional demons was SUPERB as usual .

Now , for the part that not only upset me but several other forum members too ... . You would have guessed the scene that disgusted us ... yes , the cursing one . After watching the wicked Mahamanga yell at and curse Jodha and Jalal , I was immensely upset . I do not wish to recall that horrible scene . I wish that I had never allowed it to override my sensibilities and upset me in the first place . I blame Ashwini Kalsekar's awesome acting , her excellent dialogue delivery for the same .

It is my sincere belief that " cursing " as such is wrong . Whether it was an integral part of our ancient epics or several other ones that followed , or our social setup , it is wrong and unacceptable to me . We all have different takes on this issue . Nobody has to agree with mine .

Not just me , all of us have tolerated a lot of disgusting , unbelievable , negative drama that was incorporated into the story line ( Courtesy : Naatakiya Roopantar ) . The swearing and cursing from a "mother-like" figure was the "icing on the cake " . In my opinion , this scene was completely unnecessary in taking the story forward .To give this negativity , an elaborate screen time and glorify it , was even worse . Some of us may ignore such scenes and walk away . However there are hundreds more who still blindly believe and emulate the wrongs that they see and hear . Such is the power of the visual medium and the spoken word . Be it good or bad .





Edited by JAfanCharu - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Brilliant analysis Mansi..! 👍🏼

CV's superlative obsession on negative roles shining out day by day. I don't know it seems they are planning second stage of saazish to kill viewers..Nothing but the recycling of tracks..What they will do , they had no idea how to move storyline without MA and Rukaiya's saazish. When they already given so much pathetic writing to create tension in spicing up the plot..Today's episode so much footage for the negative roles , screen space for shouting , screeching , unjustified reactions..Totally its intolerable to watch, no doubt next week , again bunch of villains and vamps blooming out..Ratings increased only when balanced footage b/w leads and supporting roles , tracks with realistic along with historical events then its up to cvs...

I can't see my JJ in pain..It was a palpable time where Jalal yelled heavily to Ruku , when he already needs JO hands to cup him , and to withstand with him in overcoming all odds...Its JO deeply printed on his soul ,JO alone can manage , fortify him no other in his place ..Jalal manifest not anyone to interfere and leaving him alone , Ruku tried to pacify him that looks impossible..He was deeply hurt by her curse , killing on his ears..He looks very much depressed and mentally broken, fighting with his inner turmoil , struggling with his weak emotions..At a very young age this man had a fate to overcome and to bear all his worst happenings loading all his dreadful challenges a..No I just want him to move off , I wish not he should not waste a drop of tears in brewing his guilt killing AK..Jalal's unendurable state can't even be explained or consoled him at this stage , this was his whole life journey goes on where he always felt loneliness throughout his life..Life is not like a cup of tea for every category why not for a king , so many responsibilities he was tied up on his head..He had to control his personal sufferings and miserable ..He had no chance to share his extreme hurt , guilt , affliction with anyone but only with the people who truly loves him the most , not only love but also a trust , utmost ,care and affection ..As a king he had to overcome incidents when it comes to judgement declaring depends on situations and circumstances , Is that judgement makes it so easy when we packed up in giving results for each issues and tragedies..This was an intolerable desolation which Jalal was going right now, its just beyond repair and inconsolable..Before JO came into his life , he was a heartless , ruthless filled with cruelty , he was a stone-hearted person when he committed with persons like RA and MA , they occupied him and treated him for their own purpose and choices . Now it was totally reverse , at a early young he lost his father , later HB given birth alone but not given him a affection and care as one can't never go without passing this wonderful parenthood days being with mom or father..Today MA yelled saying I am your mentor , So I declare justice for you..How come when you not even loved him from your heart , when you not even loved him from your soul , when you not even loved from your skin..Each part of your body created a name called opportunist which surrounds yourself saying that U loved him , Is it he means a lot to you..? No don't tell me that U loved , respected , trusted him but u never failed in betraying him..MA - U had groomed up him right but did u ask all these question to you , Did u really do all these things being a perfect mother to him by showing his true love to him..He is not like you , where he lost his father within a short span, a man who got a deprived love from his mother , that's the reason he had given u utmost respect care , affection and love who placed u as a special person showed his unconditional homage and love for you , but u not even tried out his special quality from him but every time u tested his love , trust and affection ?? ..he doesn't heard or dreamed about this worst nightmare when his foster mother who saved him from enemies , who raised him up given him a better advisor and guider , cursing his own unborn babies ..? He had never expected any advantage from MA obtaining love from you. He always placed her as a special person in his heart as a advisor and confidential backbone throughout his life .She scattered his heart into a pieces without any mercy showed her real face to him..I am so happy and glad , that she finally cleared out fake mask to him.. I want this to happen because I want him to know her depth of vengeance towards him ..Today she proved authentically, she can only be a bandhi never or ever she can place real mother s place to him..Jalal never had a chance to see her inner sharp witted , sickening and ferocious nature in which all these years, an unbearable grief spread all over his face when she cursed him immensely..Right now its too late in seeing her real images of pitiless nature..What kind of service she did for him..? Only I can remember all her plots and ploys against JJ , her game of throne starts from BK ended on Atgha Khan death..What she gained from that all this just to kill and curse his unborn babies ?? , what kind of justice MA talking about..?

I loved it when JO assured through her powerful words in uplifting him ...I loved how she rushed and reached him at right spot , before he moves on wild mode..I loved JO's self assurance and affirmative words bring back his senses ..I loved her each promising words "this is not a relationship based on throne " Jalal , plz stop crying , what you want more than this , U no need anything expect JO, this was much enough for you which can protect you from harmful evil eyes like enemies gang ..her words much enough to heal your unbearable wounds.. Do you want to hear anything more than this..? Again , she said ., I don't want you to go way from me even death scares me...I want to die with you and always be with you..! She was a perfect wife , mother , tutor in that situation ..Those precious moments absolutely looks prodigious . JJ made me emotional weak more inkling with robust heart-rending connection b/w two souls , I loved Jalal shared his innermost turmoil when he gone through right from his beginning to her .. This was the most awaited moment which takes their status into another level finding solace comforting with each other sorrows.. Her selfless spiritual courage , confidential approach with some solid passage of persuaded words entering into his soul..At a moment , where his longing expressions , turning to a peaceful one later slowly drowns into a deep closed eyes without uttering any single word but only relief and soothing...Akdha scene just fabulous ..Most awaited moment stepped into another phase in their status..Parijat , outstanding performance in their acting..I stayed in their land , I was emotionally connected to that peculiar scene..Hats off to them for bringing such potentially in their skills..👏

I enjoyed yesterday's episode. I don't care about MA unjustified reactions..I just want to ignore her parts. Because I am pissed off watching her dubious dialogues...😃 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Brilliant analysis Mansi..! 👍🏼

CV's superlative obsession on negative roles shining out day by day. I don't know it seems they are planning second stage of saazish to kill viewers..Nothing but the recycling of tracks..What they will do , they had no idea how to move storyline without MA and Rukaiya's saazish. When they already given so much pathetic writing to create tension in spicing up the plot..Today's episode so much footage for the negative roles , screen space for shouting , screeching , unjustified reactions..Totally its intolerable to watch, no doubt next week , again bunch of villains and vamps blooming out..Ratings increased only when balanced footage b/w leads and supporting roles , tracks with realistic along with historical events then its up to cvs...

I can't see my JJ in pain..It was a palpable time where Jalal yelled heavily to Ruku , when he already needs JO hands to cup him , and to withstand with him in overcoming all odds...Its JO deeply printed on his soul ,JO alone can manage , fortify him no other in his place ..Jalal manifest not anyone to interfere and leaving him alone , Ruku tried to pacify him that looks impossible..He was deeply hurt by her curse , killing on his ears..He looks very much depressed and mentally broken, fighting with his inner turmoil , struggling with his weak emotions..At a very young age this man had a fate to overcome and to bear all his worst happenings loading all his dreadful challenges a..No I just want him to move off , I wish not he should not waste a drop of tears in brewing his guilt killing AK..Jalal's unendurable state can't even be explained or consoled him at this stage , this was his whole life journey goes on where he always felt loneliness throughout his life..Life is not like a cup of tea for every category why not for a king , so many responsibilities he was tied up on his head..He had to control his personal sufferings and miserable ..He had no chance to share his extreme hurt , guilt , affliction with anyone but only with the people who truly loves him the most , not only love but also a trust , utmost ,care and affection ..As a king he had to overcome incidents when it comes to judgement declaring depends on situations and circumstances , Is that judgement makes it so easy when we packed up in giving results for each issues and tragedies..This was an intolerable desolation which Jalal was going right now, its just beyond repair and inconsolable..Before JO came into his life , he was a heartless , ruthless filled with cruelty , he was a stone-hearted person when he committed with persons like RA and MA , they occupied him and treated him for their own purpose and choices . Now it was totally reverse , at a early young he lost his father , later HB given birth alone but not given him a affection and care as one can't never go without passing this wonderful parenthood days being with mom or father..Today MA yelled saying I am your mentor , So I declare justice for you..How come when you not even loved him from your heart , when you not even loved him from your soul , when you not even loved from your skin..Each part of your body created a name called opportunist which surrounds yourself saying that U loved him , Is it he means a lot to you..? No don't tell me that U loved , respected , trusted him but u never failed in betraying him..MA - U had groomed up him right but did u ask all these question to you , Did u really do all these things being a perfect mother to him by showing his true love to him..He is not like you , where he lost his father within a short span, a man who got a deprived love from his mother , that's the reason he had given u utmost respect care , affection and love who placed u as a special person showed his unconditional homage and love for you , but u not even tried out his special quality from him but every time u tested his love , trust and affection ?? ..he doesn't heard or dreamed about this worst nightmare when his foster mother who saved him from enemies , who raised him up given him a better advisor and guider , cursing his own unborn babies ..? He had never expected any advantage from MA obtaining love from you. He always placed her as a special person in his heart as a advisor and confidential backbone throughout his life .She scattered his heart into a pieces without any mercy showed her real face to him..I am so happy and glad , that she finally cleared out fake mask to him.. I want this to happen because I want him to know her depth of vengeance towards him ..Today she proved authentically, she can only be a bandhi never or ever she can place real mother s place to him..Jalal never had a chance to see her inner sharp witted , sickening and ferocious nature in which all these years, an unbearable grief spread all over his face when she cursed him immensely..Right now its too late in seeing her real images of pitiless nature..What kind of service she did for him..? Only I can remember all her plots and ploys against JJ , her game of throne starts from BK ended on Atgha Khan death..What she gained from that all this just to kill and curse his unborn babies ?? , what kind of justice MA talking about..?

I loved it when JO assured through her powerful words in uplifting him ...I loved how she rushed and reached him at right spot , before he moves on wild mode..I loved JO's self assurance and affirmative words bring back his senses ..I loved her each promising words "this is not a relationship based on throne " Jalal , plz stop crying , what you want more than this , U no need anything expect JO, this was much enough for you which can protect you from harmful evil eyes like enemies gang ..her words much enough to heal your unbearable wounds.. Do you want to hear anything more than this..? Again , she said ., I don't want you to go way from me even death scares me...I want to die with you and always be with you..! She was a perfect wife , mother , tutor in that situation ..Those precious moments absolutely looks prodigious . JJ made me emotional weak more inkling with robust heart-rending connection b/w two souls , I loved Jalal shared his innermost turmoil when he gone through right from his beginning to her .. This was the most awaited moment which takes their status into another level finding solace comforting with each other sorrows.. Her selfless spiritual courage , confidential approach with some solid passage of persuaded words entering into his soul..At a moment , where his longing expressions , turning to a peaceful one later slowly drowns into a deep closed eyes without uttering any single word but only relief and soothing...Akdha scene just fabulous ..Most awaited moment stepped into another phase in their status..Parijat , outstanding performance in their acting..I stayed in their land , I was emotionally connected to that peculiar scene..Hats off to them for bringing such potentially in their skills..👏

I enjoyed yesterday's episode. I don't care about MA unjustified reactions..I just want to ignore her parts. Because I am pissed off watching her dubious dialogues...😃 😆


Very sensitively and beautifully written Chocos .

I loved the part where you have rightly said that " it was Jo who is deeply printed in Jalal's soul " . Both Jodha and Jalal will travel this journey of life together . They will derive love and strength from each other . The assurance that Jodha is by his side , supporting him , will give Jalal the much needed emotional strength to face all odds .

I loved both Paridhi and Rajat yesterday . Both of them came up with superlative performances .

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