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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0



Nabiii

You have taken the words right out of my heart. Seriously, I felt very disappointed that they cut the scene so abruptly.😕

Poor babies - royal heirs yet no one cares for them. When will Jalal remember them and talk to them the way he spoke to his imaginary baby in RUq's tummy?😕I want at least one good scene of Jalal, Jodha and the babies before the twins die - I don't think I'm asking for too much!

Btw, i also enjoy reading your posts - our thoughts are usually similar.😊


exactly, they even discussed abt ruq's fake unborn child, did puja for that child,talked how would they pamper this child but now when jalal's beloved jodha is expecting his children there is no discussion,no excitement abt these poor children. They never discuss abt their dream for unborn twins,whats the names they wl keep for them,how wl they both handle twins,how wl they pamper them etc etc...where ever jodha needs to get emotionally huge support frm jalal at this crucial time as at the time of pregnancy she has already faced hardship situation over turn now jalal wl need jo's support as he is now quite crumbling down person to lose his guardian figure's atgha n give brutal punishment to his dudh bhai(though he deserves this kind of death).
Btw,so sweet of u.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Wonderful post Cleo. Agree with every word in bold.

I just find the dudh ka karz dialogues so crass and plain yucky.
Frankly Jalal never needed MA, she was PAID to be a dai I am sure and it was part of her duty. If MA was not there someone else would have been for Jalal. No matter Humayun and HB were on the run they were still royals. Jalal would have had dozens of others to serve him.

MA on the other hand might have been serving as bandi somewhere. She needed Jalal to get importance, to get access to the power centre and later used him for her naked hunger for power.

MA always came across as resentful of the royal ladies, she was a bandi and thought she was better then them and felt she had a right to the life they had.

Jodha had nothing to do with how MA turned, we have seen she was doing MC of Jalal's Begums before Jalal even met Jodha. What kind of woman causes violent abortions of the wives of man she is supposed to be loyal to, who almost worshiped her, gave her more regard that his own mother. Jalal used to blindly believe to every word MA uttered.

Not just with Jodha, MA tried to control and spoil all of Jalal's relationships. MA was no closer to Ruk before Jodha came on the scene she tried to plot against HB, Ruk, BK - every important relationship of Jalal's.

It was only Jodha (in JA serial) who stood upto her.

Why are CVs glorifying this horrible woman by making her mouth dialogues like she loves Jalal and dudh ka karz crap. What MA was, was a vile disgusting woman who crossed all boundaries by what she did to Ruk.

I hope CVs won't show Jalal pardon her immediately, which I am afraid is what he will do and then feel sorry for her and guilty and MA take full advantage of the fact. Now she mostly will change her tactics, she will pretend guilt and sob sob about what she did and regrets. We might get her pretending to be sick and begums Jodha esp doing her seva 😡😡😡
MA will be aware to act all regretful around Jalal and Jodha and she might plot one more extreme vicious act.

I am just plain sick of CVs MA obsession. Had enough now, hope we are rid of her without more glorification and further butchering of Jalal and Jodha having to fuss around this vile woman.

Awesome Maddy.
We are on the same page regarding MA.
I liked today's episode...i am probably in minority but I wasn't moved by her appeals to Jalal. The only female characters I felt sorry for were Jiji Anga and Javeda.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Radhika, Rashmi, blackvelvet, Thanks for comliment.

Abhay thanks for Such a beautiful Post.👏 👏





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Posted: 11 years ago
Disclaimer: The views expressed here are solely mine and do not necessarily reflect those of the TM or other contributing members. 😊

Beware the Fury of a Patient Man
Last night's episode sent shivers down my spine - I was transfixed to see the ever patient, usually forgiving Jalal seethe slowly from simmering rage to impassioned fury against Adham Khan. It was like a long-dormant volcano had erupted without warning and the lava that poured out of him slowly engulfed Adham Khan and wiped out his existence for ever.

For many years, Jalal forgave Adham for all sins and crimes, out of a sense of fraternity with him and a sense of gratitude towards his mother, Mahamanga. But when Adham killed Atga Khan, Jalal's ataliq and closest counsel, the resulting shock and grief devastated Jalal. There were very few people Jalal trusted blindly and Atga Khan was one of them.

So far, I had only read this mesmerizing tale about how Adham Khan killed Atga and moved on to attack Jalal in his private quarters. And how Jalal then threw Adham Khan down from the ramparts of the palace till the latter no longer breathed.

But seeing this scene was highly disturbing. How much Jalal grieved for his ataliq can be gauged from the fact that, for the first time ever, he overlooked Adham Khan being Mahamanga's son and launched a fatal attack on him, culminating in that fearsome fling in the end.

The royal ladies who had gathered there hearing the sounds of fighting, were shell-shocked by the scene they saw unfold before their eyes. Jodha made one tentative attempt to prevent Jalal from unleashing his wrath on the by-now hapless Adham but was stopped by Hamida, who was dazed to see this streak of violence in Jalal with her own eyes.

Jalal didn't stop with making short work of Adham. He carried the corpse like a trophy over his shoulders and addressed his awaam, making sure that everyone got the message loud and clear that Jalal would stand anything but an attack on his near and dear ones.

Did Jalal do the right thing?

I feel the question here is of not what is morally / ethically right. He had given far too many chances to Adham to reform himself. But Adham had taken Jalal's graciousness as weakness of character.

When Adham dared to kill Jalal's ataliq brazenly in broad daylight within the palace precints, Jalal could not just let him go. He had to send a message that as an emperor, he was conscious of his responsibilities towards his family and those who were loyal to him to the core.

The method chosen may have been a bit barbaric. But when a man who has been silent for too long is woken up, then there is nothing anyone can do to stop the furies from unleashing.

An over-taxed patience gives way to fierce anger.
-Publilius Syrus
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Posted: 11 years ago
What a lovely piece of writing👏 Your post is thought-provoking, interesting, positive and has a very calming effect. The real journey of Jodha and Akbar as soul-mates begins now, when they have only each other to rely / trust on fully and share their innermost feelings and emotions shamelessly amidst friends, foes, loyalists, betrayals, power and greed.
I need to read a lot of comments between page 1 and 18. Will do so at leisure. Please make posts more often and do PM me. It is any day better than reading some reckless comments and posts made by few irresponsible yet claimed 'sensible' members😊.
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Posted: 11 years ago
History_geek and mishti thank you for bringing such wealth of knowledge...and please keep the dialogue going...am following you guys very closely... 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
The Frightened Doe
The heavily blood-smeared Jalal finally trudges a weary path to Jodha's hojra, looking to unburden himself in front of the one person who could comfort him at that time.

Jodha skips away like a doe suddenly caught unawares by a hunter.

How the scene unfolds is anyone's guess.

But I was struck by Jodha's reaction and predicament. She, till just a year back, had led an innocent, peaceful life and could not even bear to see a bird injured. After coming to Agra, she had been exposed to much, including the violent streak in Jalal, once too often.

Even then, nothing prepared her mentally to witness the carnage Jalal set loose upon Adham Khan. She was staggered to see the extent to which he could go, to avenge his temper. And it would not be an exaggeration to say that she was petrified by this man, she thought she knew well by now, but who appeared like a total strange to her ever so often.

Was Jodha's Reaction Right?

Under normal circumstances, some may believe that she should understand Jalal's frame of mind, relax him and comfort him.

But, a woman who has just witnessed her husband murder another man, like someone squatting a mosquito, can hardly be in a normal frame of mind herself. She would be dazed and unable to reconcile this stranger who stood before her with her husband.

Jodha reacted just like any young girl would, upon being exposed to gruesome violence.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: jaljo

What a lovely piece of writing👏 Your post is thought-provoking, interesting, positive and has a very calming effect. The real journey of Jodha and Akbar as soul-mates begins now, when they have only each other to rely / trust on fully and share their innermost feelings and emotions shamelessly amidst friends, foes, loyalists, betrayals, power and greed.

I need to read a lot of comments between page 1 and 18. Will do so at leisure. Please make posts more often and do PM me. It is any day better than reading some reckless comments and posts made by few irresponsible yet claimed 'sensible' members😊.


Jaljo,

You are absolutely correct. Abhay's writing is always thought-provoking, interesting, positive and very calming. 😊 Just like Abhay himself.

Do try to read his historical threads (though most of them are closed now) and you will not only gain an amazing insight into the ethereal love story of Akbar and the MUZ, but will also get a chance to read some of the most thoroughly researched historical posts on JA on this forum. ⭐️
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Jaljo,

You are absolutely correct. Abhay's writing is always thought-provoking, interesting, positive and very calming. 😊 Just like Abhay himself.

Do try to read his historical threads (though most of them are closed now) and you will not only gain an amazing insight into the ethereal love story of Akbar and the MUZ, but will also get a chance to read some of the most thoroughly researched historical posts on JA on this forum. ⭐️

I have read some of them as a silent reader😊. Though not all. If possible, could you pass me on the links. Will read them whenever I have some time on hand😊. Thanks in advance.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: jaljo

I have read some of them as a silent reader😊. Though not all. If possible, could you pass me on the links. Will read them whenever I have some time on hand😊. Thanks in advance.


Jaljo,

Just click on his signature, which appears after every post he makes...
Akbar's Kids Thread

This signature contains the link to the Akbar's Kids thread. In that thread, at the end of Main Post, you can get the links of all the other threads.

Let me know if you face any problem. 😊

And please do post your views after reading them. Abhay would love to hear/discuss your views.

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