Jodha Akbar - The Case of the Missed Clue

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Frnds, am back with a fresh topic after a long time - and its my TE - yes you all got it right - my Tedha Emperor - who has got me back making this topic šŸ˜†

If you all may have noticed, for a long time now I had been addressing him as Jalal since the TE within him had been ruthlessly burnt by our mahaan CVs - but now the TE is rising - like the proverbial Phoenix from the ashes - and yes from now on I will once more be addressing him as TE šŸ˜‰

Toh pehle in the honor of his return a song -

Dhol bajne laga, Agra and IF sajne laga,
Koi laut ke aaya hai, sang apne
woh rang kitne laaya hai

Ok now mudde pe aate hain - toh yeh khushi aur maine 30th July ko hi pakad liya tha ki TE is back - but then how did we do that when 'No one and I will say this, No one' had caught on during that time - the first ones to join us were Mishti, Anjali, Tamy and finally Sindhu (poor girl she was so exasperated with wanting TE back that she decided to will herself into believing šŸ˜†)

But then khushi and I were not staking our lives, and honor and aan, baan and shaan of TE on mere hawa - and yes even we dont trust the CVs, Divs - but we have full faith in Rajat the actor - he has not let us down till date - and let me tell you all this since the Sujamal track I have been watching Rajat's Jalal - every single gesture, expression and nuance - and he has kept me entertained when I would have chucked this show long back !!!!!😃

So here was what we saw - on 30th July we had the famous hamam scene - where all were drooling on Rajat - and that was the perfect distraction from the CVs - hats off to who so ever thought up of getting a half clad Rajat into that hamam - brilliant diversionary tactics i would say - well when TE gets into that hamam thinking that the woman inside is Jodha he utters 'Hume aapse bahut mohabbat hai Jodha Begum' as he hugs her from the back - and here he turns her around and is surprised to see an unknown face - please note there is no guilt since he has not done anything wrong even in his thought for him to have guilt - he has just been taken aback ki yeh kaun hai jo iss waqt humare Shahi hamam mei ghus aaya hai

and then in comes Jodha and calls out - and this is where the clue is - what most saw was a TE shocked at being caught with another woman in a half dressed condition in the hamam by a pregnant Jodha - and then a TE who goes to convince his wife that he did not know and it was a mistake ... yada...yada...yada...

what all missed was that split second look of absolute terror so fabulously done by Rajat when he looks at Jodha and turns to look at Atifa - where he makes the connect - that this was where just moments before Jodha was having her bath and where this unknown woman now is - the thoughts that would have overtaken him - had the woman come when Jodha was there? why did she come in Jodha's hamam? Was she here to harm him? then why come to Jodha's hamam and not his? Does this mean she is here to harm Jodha? and all the possibilities of what could happen flashed before his eyes - and the Shahenshah realised in that moment that the most vulnerable as of the moment is Jodha who happens to be carrying the heirs to the Sultanate - and the attack is now both explicit with Khyber and implicit with this new creature

and from here comes the TE rising like the Phoenix - and after this TE's resolve to deflect Atifa's attention to himself - and thus he wrenched the game from their hands right at the start - since then, Atifa, her supposed husband and their master puppeteer are all reacting to TE - and slowly loosing their focus and their grip to the point where they are now poised on making those mistakes that will get them caught.

Ofcourse the next clue was the shikar - with all those double edged dialogues and those smirks of the hunter on the prowl - that were oh so totally to die for šŸ˜†
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Adia, I will admit I noticed the wide eyed terror and fear in the hamaam ... I was not that distracted šŸ˜†

But, it reminded me of the sometimes OTT fear he shows, e.g., when Jodha and Ruqaiyya were fighting over whether he should go out to play chugaan. More for comical effect as a scared husband.

I would also say there are times the CVs have tricked us ... in the Tasneem track and Ben track where they showed him thinking and pensive ... but there was no such outcome. We had all guessed Jalal had something up his sleeve in Ben and naught came out of it.

Hence, it was a combination of closely watching his emotions and actions that I have come to the conclusion he is acting... it took me a little longer to be convinced by the CVs.

I never thought it was love / lust ...
- The way he stared at Atifa, was never like the way he stared at Jodha, even in Gangaur

But, I thought it could be a spell
- The way he subconsciously painted her painting
- Kept getting drawn to her
- His OTT display of emotion / attraction, which he never does even with Jodha

But, this is what convinced me he was acting ... he is completely conscious of what he is doing:
- When going on the hunting trip ... he was very conscious of what he was doing and that none of the Begums should come with him ... yet, he was also not guilty when he talked to Jodha and he used to feel guilty at a hat drop before
- His double edged dialogues in the hunting trip as you mention
- His dialogue to Atgah ... that he knows he is doing wrong but cannot help himself ... if you are in a spell you are not conscious of it ... or else he would have disliked the fact he was not in control
- His conscious decision to have the guards leave when he went to meet Atifa when he had no qualms showing his love in front of anyone before ... he obviously wanted her husband to come in
- The smile at the end of the confrontation with her husband
- His hesitance and consequent sadness at breaking the Atifa news to Jodha

And this has been consistent, up to during the last scene where all the women including Atifa were in the room and yet he had no eyes for Atifa and was only thinking of Jodha.

Hence, it was the consistency of this where I was finally convinced that the CVs were not trying to trick me.

So, I took a longer journey there ... but our destination is the same 😊

Edited by divyavm - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow great point. He sensed the threat to Jodha and hence moving away from her and all the act.
He drew the potrait so that he can remember her face.
That is why Atifa's husband was worried that Jalal saw her face. She was there to harm jodha and Jalal was not supposed to be there.
Brilliant. I wish they executed the track diffetentlt letting us know what Jalal was up to.
Edited by Dhiya2 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Adi
I don't get it. If papita had come to harm jo why would she be bathing even when jo is not there? Wouldn't she have left not finding jodha in the hamam.

Jalal has seen papaya with someone, ma or nigaar aapa or ruks or mh. That is why he draws her pic.

Moreover if jo and twins safety was his concern why stress her?


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think Akbar already knows who atifa is
that is why without verification he gave her hubby job and told her to sing
wish they had showed some nice thoughts from Ak instead of this suspense
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Adi,
Honestly speaking, Wednesday, 31st July, when the hamam scene with Atifa entry was shown, I didn't notice much...I too was busy drooling...šŸ˜†...
Then Thursday, I was stumped!!!!...totally...this was so UN - JALAL like...n then on friday I was bewildered...after returning from work, I re watched Wednesday's epi...hamam scene...yet I didn't catch on...

But the portrait drawing scene...that was a dead give away, on CLOSE introspection...just watch Rajat's zillion expressions, of recollection, intrigue, mystery...everything BUT lust or attraction...I think I pmed you about this, too...then I went back to the hamam scene.

...n everything was crystal clear...TE was back...With a loud roar!!!!

I stand by my jewellery theory however silly I myself find it...meaning I think that is what the director wants to say...

The DEK scenes, where Jalal SEEMS to be mesmerised r another imp clue...

The shikar trip was the final conclusive proof...esp TE'S double entendre, & his asking ATIFA TO KEEP HER GHUNGHAT OFF HER HEAD...it appeared that he wanted to gaze at her...BUT ACTUALLY, I THINK, IF MY JEWELLERY THEORY IS TRUE, THEN THERE COULD BE A LINK HERE...something related to nature (very silly again, I know šŸ˜† )...

Jalal could have arrested Atifa in the Hamam itself...BUT he wants to identify the culprits aiding her BOTH I SIDE & OUT SIDE his mahal...hence, his plan is to

1) pretend to be IN LOVE with Atifa
2) pretend to be OUT OF LOVE with Jo...

His plan works only when his enemies are convinced of BOTH these situations...

My guess is its MA with Nigaar as main culprits...coz WHY ELSE DID NIGAR NOT EXPOSE MA AFTER RETURNING TO AGRA????????

...
Edited by ---Khushi--- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dhiya2

Wow great point. He sensed the threat to Jodha and hence moving away from her and all the act.

He drew the potrait so that he can remember her face.



Yes Dhiya, and since he had uttered those words of confessing his Love - he had to actually ensure that his attraction for Atifa is well documented and looked at as 'falling out of Love' with Jodha and 'into love' with Atifa - and most necessary to convince Ruqs and MA that Jodha is past - but even more necessary to make Atifa loose focus and thus make her mistakes.


Atifa, Amanullah Khan, Ruqs, MA, Nigar, AK, Sharif are all under the scanner and none know about it šŸ˜†
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Adi

I don't get it. If papita had come to harm jo why would she be bathing even when jo is not there? Wouldn't she have left not finding jodha in the hamam.

Jalal has seen papaya with someone, ma or nigaar aapa or ruks or mh. That is why he draws her pic.

Moreover if jo and twins safety was his concern why stress her?




Becoz at that time TE did not know what Atifa ka plan was - the idea was to get Jodha's sympathy using the abused wife story - pls note Sands - when TE was told by Atgha of this he insists that if ever this happens it shd be he who is informed first and he also puts his own spies to do so - becoz he knows that if Jodha gets a whiff of it she would take Atifa under her wings and then he would have the devil's own time to get to the bottom of it - but by getting it bandied to all that Atifa is his new interest he has ensured that Jodha would not even bother to find out more about her - thus he has effectively kept Atifa out of Jodha's soft heart šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Adi

I don't get it. If papita had come to harm jo why would she be bathing even when jo is not there? Wouldn't she have left not finding jodha in the hamam.

Jalal has seen papaya with someone, ma or nigaar aapa or ruks or mh. That is why he draws her pic.

Moreover if jo and twins safety was his concern why stress her?


My only logic for him being harsh to Jodha was so that Jodha deliberately stayed away from him...Soft words and she wouldn't stay away from him... She'll start conducting her own investigation...and that's what he didn't want...
In a way, I wondered if he considered himself as a threat to her safety (spell, assassin attack, poison whatever) and couldn't think of any other way to to keep her away...

He must have thought better for Jodha not to travel to Amer at this point...Obviously, his plans derailed ...he never thought that Jodha would go off on a khyber hunt, though...issue acha usse Amer hi bhej deta...

I do believe there has to be something early on Adi because the zee man also seemed to have confirmed to many that the clue is in the very first scene...
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yeah!!! i noticed that too...he looked at Jodha and immediately looked in shock at Atifa...the shock was not for having seen by Jodha with other woman, it was like...if I would not have come, then this unknown woman would have been in this hamam with Jodha alone.
Even when he was reminiscing Atifa, while calming down Jodha in his arms afterwards in hamam...look at his face...He was THINKING...he was clearly connecting the threats and planning and plotting...and this THINKING JALAL is definitely TE, who took the reins of game in his hands, even before his enemies started it...and after that rest as they say is histroyšŸ˜‰šŸ˜†

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