Take 5: Top 5 countdown for August 5th, 2014

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Five food for thought points ... nothing else:

(1) Two wrongs never makes a right ... even if we assume Jalal is after Atifa, that does not make Jodha and her stance on Khaiber automatically right or Jalal's concern for Jodha false.

Imagine if the Jodha-Khaiber track was a completely separate one ... I think folks reactions would have been very different.

Because it is very clear that there is concern for Jodha that is driving Jalal's actions ... in any other day, we would have cheered that he said "hamari Jodha Begum" ko kuch ho jaata to when he angrily was speaking to Atgah and SD. But, now we are just thinking back to why is he with Atifa.

(2) Both were right today in their intentions ...

Jodha: in trying to save Khaiber who she views as someone who saved her life

Jalal: in seeing the threat that Khaiber poses to a pregnant Jodha and his children and the harem at large

However, I felt neither dialogues brought out in actuality what their intentions were and were constructed merely to create a fight and escalate.

In addition, Jalal showed his anger too strongly ... and Jodha came across as challenging Jalal in public.

However, if Jalal's anger is creating stress for Jodha's pregnancy, so is Khaiber visiting her room. We do not know what would have happened if SD had not arrived. So, that does not place Khaiber automatically in the good either.

(3) Jalal the kathputhli or not: The question was never whether Jalal listened to Jodha or not ... the issue was why is Jalal never shown capable of doing anything right ...

So, I am not happy with Jalal saying he is not Jodha's kathputhli ... if the CVs do not show him showing good judgment and that is why I am hoping Jalal has an ace up in his sleeve.

(4) We have seen Jalal's behavior for ~300 episodes ... and the Jalal we have seen for 4 days does not erase what he used to be. If everything about him has changed, there has got to be a reason and all I am saying is to wait for that reason.And it can't be a 4 day old love!

(5) Relationships go through all sorts of ups and downs ... but that does not erase the love Jodha and Jalal have for each other. We could say they are not worthy of each other ... but in the end of the day, they decided they were.

Everyone knows I did not like how Jodha refused to see Jalal's POV in the Sujamal Fiasco for a long time ... but that never made me think that Jodha was not worthy of Jalal. It was a mistake ... she learned from it and life moved on. Life will move on no matter how this track ends.

In terms of the overall track, I am not making any more guesses. There are cases to be made Jalal is acting, there are cases to be made that he is not. I am now leaning towards Jalal being hypnotized ... the question is does he know of it or not? Only time will tell.

And I felt bad for Atgah Khan today , he is witnessing all the mini love stories in Agra paagal khaana- adding SD and his love for Jodha to the list. He must be going crazy 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi,
Lot of things happened yesterday, all very subtle, but, how these things will be played out, only time will tell...

1. Khyber - The dude is clearly head over in heels in love with Jodha. But apart from grunting, making cow eyes at Jodha, and squinting at those who are mean to her, or admire her, there's little else he does. And oh yes, he sat on her bed yesterday. Ask Jallu, the first time he tried that trick, Jodha attacked him with a dagger. And the dude even got a BGM. 👏
2. Shareef-ud-Din - He won a lottery, well sort of. He was almost too happy to have found a secret path to Jodha's hojra, but, Jodha requested Jalaal to release Khyber, and he's confused now, did another nirdosh pashu enter Agra ecology? Earlier in Jodha's hojra, he shouted, "Tune hamari beghum sahiba ko chhoone ki himmat kaise ki", but, obviously Jodha had to miss that one. But, Atgah sahab was too quick. 😆
3. Atgah Sahab - Now, after "catching" Jalaal in the act, he also caught Shareef. And also fanned fires in Jodha's heart...😆
4. Atifa's husband - I feel Atifa and her bitter half put on quite a show. Any child would know of the spies in the palace, so Atifa's husband stressed about leaving post Eid, so that a love-sick Jallu would do something stupid, to stop this. This is a two-pronged plan, distract Jalaal with Atifa, and harm Jodha, while he isn't there.
5. Jodha - In a way I feel bad for this girl, imagine you have a nightmare of you pati with some patty, and you wake up to find, the thing from Fantastic Four ogling you. Now, that would upset anyone's balance, so I could forgive for her next day's behaviour. Or can I? I think, she should have tried to reason out with Jallu about her wish, in private, before Jalaal had ordered public execution of Khy. Honestly, it's extremely freaky to find an unknown man in your bedroom in the dead of night, that too when he stares at you like that. I would probably wish I had a gun if something like that ever happened to me. It's just too creepy.
6. Jalaal - Save the best for the last they say. I feel he was right in his anger, Khy is a dangerous person, trained to kill, and when a person like that enters harem, it's a matter of danger and shame to Akbar. What if he'd gone on a rampage? As of now, he's listening to Jodha, but, what about later? What if he had gone to some other lady's room? And his master had sent him to Jodha's hojra to harm Jodha. Jalaal knows what he's capable of in anger, having been thrown more than a couple of times by Khy. Will Jodha in her current state be able to withstand one throw like that? And yes, as a spouse, I think, he's absolutely right in showing a mirror to Jodha (mother-tongue idiom), Jodha has trusted enough trouble-makers for their sweet-tongues in the past, and is not-such-a-good-judge of character. Actually, I loved that scene. I was sick and tired of a stupid Jalaal boxed into a corner with anuchit bhaashans. Now during the mirchi war, all of us were crying our hearts out over a weak Jalaal, and obviously, CVs stalking the forum, gave us a ghost of a strong Jalaal, it was 3 weeks late, but, then there'e a 3 week lag between shooting and telecast, so that makes sense. And yes, what happened in the end of the episode, was probably the most embarrassing thing that could happen to Jalaal, his queen leaves the parda in front of common citizens and asks him to revoke his order, even the commoners were smart enough to understand what was going on, and how the Queen looked more powerful than a King. Jodha should've gotten a hint.

The Human Rights Activists might kill me for this, but, let's think of the scenario. What do you do with a person like Khy? He's too dangerous to be left in the palace, but, it would be unfair to kill him. The only solution I can think of, is to put him in a row-boat and float him into Arabian Sea - Life of Khy.😆

A few things that I observed,
1. Does Shareef take bath? He wears the same dress. ALWAYS.
2. Jallu and Atifa matched when they arrived in Agra...😆
3. Somehow the citizens of Agra have aiming skills worse than a cross-eyed drunk. Not even one stone hit the target, a giant. 😆

All in all, an ok episode, except Jalaal who was better than usual. But, I shudder to think of the tear tsunami we'll subjected to...

Lovely post! Yes, two wrongs don't make a right. 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I m not watching episodes regularly and only watched the scene where Jodha asks Jalal to give Khyber's life as gift. But why doesn't Jodha give up her stubbornness once for her husband? Or can't she be a queen to him when he behaves like a king?
BTW, what is the precap?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

I m not watching episodes regularly and only watched the scene where Jodha asks Jalal to give Khyber's life as gift. But why doesn't Jodha give up her stubbornness once for her husband? Or can't she be a queen to him when he behaves like a king?

BTW, what is the precap?



Paraphrase but watched it quickly:

Jodha says as a Rajvanshi wife I can never want my husband's honor to fall
Jalal I don't think so ... not in front of your pride ... i think i have made a mistake in giving you love and independence

Something like that 😆 Enough to cause a war in the forum as always😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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M pasting my comment from ur other thread to dis 1..:)
So its not hypnotism nor jalal is planning anything coz zee walo ne callers ko ye bola hai so its obvious..:p now inn dono mese kuch nai to akhir bat kya hai...??

Well,atgah sahab ne aaj clue de diya...insan 2 surto me change hota hai..1st-unhe koi nashe ki latt lag gai hai or 2nd-unki life me koi aur aaya hai...well sabko obvious lagega its d 2nd scenario...bt actually its 1st one..:D
Yaad hai ruks jalal ko kuch pilati hai nd ruks ne jalal ko puchne par bhi ye nai bataya tha ke wo hai kya...sooo inn sabke piche hum sabki pyari ruquiya hai..muje yaad hai jodha ki pregnancy ki khabar ke bad she hd cried nd given dos evil looks...tht means uske khurafati dimag me koi to idea aaya tha...bt hume uski planning dikhai nai...ye sab chize yahi keh rahi hai tht its ruqu whos giving jalal some drink jisse jalal pe aesa asar ho raha hai..
Thts y jalal ke aese confusing looks hai...jisse hume lag raha hai he is planning smthng bt actually its his fight between his dil nd dimag..hes dil saying he cnt do dis to jodha his dimag going towards atifa...!! Dnt knw y hes dimag going towards atifa..:p
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Posted: 11 years ago
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BTW did anyone else catch SD telling Khaiber how dare you touch "hamari begum"

I mean hamari can refer to our / meaning Mughal Sultanate

but it clearly reflected wishful thinking 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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you penned it beautifully divya...
well...you are right there...two or three fight ups dont make a couple unworthy for each other...
but the way CVs are progressing with the Jalal-atifa track...it wont be easy to bring back Jalal's lover-aura...if they dont come up with something like...Jalal knew her intentions, winding her...blah blah...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm

BTW did anyone else catch SD telling Khaiber how dare you touch "hamari begum"

I mean hamari can refer to our / meaning Mughal Sultanate

but it clearly reflected wishful thinking 😆


dilke armaan words me beh gaye...😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rishitabeladia

M pasting my comment from ur other thread to dis 1..:)
So its not hypnotism nor jalal is planning anything coz zee walo ne callers ko ye bola hai so its obvious..:p now inn dono mese kuch nai to akhir bat kya hai...??

Well,atgah sahab ne aaj clue de diya...insan 2 surto me change hota hai..1st-unhe koi nashe ki latt lag gai hai or 2nd-unki life me koi aur aaya hai...well sabko obvious lagega its d 2nd scenario...bt actually its 1st one..:D
Yaad hai ruks jalal ko kuch pilati hai nd ruks ne jalal ko puchne par bhi ye nai bataya tha ke wo hai kya...sooo inn sabke piche hum sabki pyari ruquiya hai..muje yaad hai jodha ki pregnancy ki khabar ke bad she hd cried nd given dos evil looks...tht means uske khurafati dimag me koi to idea aaya tha...bt hume uski planning dikhai nai...ye sab chize yahi keh rahi hai tht its ruqu whos giving jalal some drink jisse jalal pe aesa asar ho raha hai..
Thts y jalal ke aese confusing looks hai...jisse hume lag raha hai he is planning smthng bt actually its his fight between his dil nd dimag..hes dil saying he cnt do dis to jodha his dimag going towards atifa...!! Dnt knw y hes dimag going towards atifa..:p



I still think it might be hypnotism ... because love influences you if you talk to the lover.

Once Jalal fell in love with Jodha, he loved Jodha and changed and listened to her because of his love.

But here it is not like Atifa has riled him up against Jodha or told him to punish Khaiber

Baat to kuch aur hi hain ...

And if Atgah can figure it out , it's probably not that 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ppluvkuch


dilke armaan words me beh gaye...😆


But our diabetes causing Jodha didn't suspect any thing.😆

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