Pathetic episode with desperate overkill of the animal-man!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Friends, I really have to keep this post very short today because of a power cut (yes again!). What can I say, after two or three fabulous episodes, yesterday's episode was p-a-t-h-e-t-i-c!

We had more than half the episode only about ridiculous reactions at Kabul to the loss in the war, and within even that half episode, we had the bulk of it just showing one long and torturous scene ...

... of how the animal-man (that Mahchuchak has in her arsenal as a deadly weapon) eats about a hundred eggs and one goat - all in three seconds.

Before showing us this animal-man (from what we could see he was just a very hairy human being with an awfully scarred face and presumably a beefy body) we were led to think his fat and hefty bodyguard was that animal-man ... only to find that the body guard himself was not that man but there was yet another man inside a cage which was the real animal-man.

Really did we need to be shown nearly 14 minutes of this Kabul crap? It took all the shine out of the rest of the episode for me!

Let me quickly go over what all happened in the whole episode, and then reserve my comments for the end ...

Jalal calls all his family and courtiers together into one of the khemas and has a kind of DEK. He does three notable things there. One, he gifts the deserving Mansingh with his own subehdari (paanch hazari mansab) which makes Bharmal awfully proud. He then extols Jodha's role in the war in converting loss into an actual win, and bows and salutes Jodha (as we have already seen and digested in the previous precap). Finally he is so chuffed that he tells his three begums that they can have one wish each in their lifetime that he will grant them!

Then after telling Mirza to go with Munim Khan (I didn't quite get where he was sending Hakim Mirza) they all decide to return to Agra.

At Kabul, the eccentric Mahchuchak is sitting on her throne in as unregal a style as possible with her poor and frightened mouse of a husband Haider by her side, when a messenger comes in to say they have lost the war with Jalal. Mahchuchak does an elaborate naatak as if she doesn't know whether to kill the messenger for such an awful message or not, and appeals seductively (!!!) to Haider to advise her. But meanwhile the messenger makes the big mistake of begging Haider directly for mercy, which enrages Mahchuchak . She then takes the messenger's own dagger from his belt and stabs him to death with great satisfaction. The poor long-suffering Haider is profusely sweating, a point which Mahchuchak tells her daughter to see ... "tumhaare abba huzoor ke muh pe dekho kaisa phasina choot raha hai".

At Agra meanwhile, Bharmal is a proud father and grandfather taking leave of Jodha and Mansingh and returning to Amer, when he says to Jodha "There is a new glow about you, and I am sure it is not just because of the war win." He hints that he may be guessing correctly about her "secret". Jodha is astounded that her father is so perceptive about her pregnancy!

Back in Kabul again, Mahchuchak leads Haider to her bedroom where she shouts at him abusively that his armies were a lousy lot that went and lost the battle. "Get another army ready at once" she chides Haider, "I have to take revenge on this Hamida who declared herself Marium Makkani and just because her son was born before mine, Jalal took away the throne from my son." Not satisfied, however, with just these revenge arrangements, she then calls for Faazal Beg and tells him to get her secret weapon ready to go to Agra ... it's the animal-man!

At Agra, meanwhile, Jodha is in her room with Moti when they both talk about when exactly Jodha is going to tell Jalal about her pregnancy. Jodha says that she is going to get Jalal alone into the DEK and tell him, because some while ago, when he thought Ruq was pregnant, he had taken Jodha to the throne in the DEK and said it was his dearest wish to see his son sitting on that throne. This flashback popped into Jodha's mind, and so she had her plans to tell Jalal all at the right place and time soon.

OK, now back to Kabul to meet the animal man. Just to create a lot of suspense as to who this ghastly creature was that Mahchuchak planned to send to Agra, we were first shown a thin scrawny farmer-type of man carrying a basket of about hundred eggs and leading a goat by a string. The man, the goat and the eggs went into a dark cave filled for some reason with flowing water.

After wading through, the farmer comes to a huge burly man who laughs loud enough to bring the roof down. He looks like a good candidate for the animal man and for a while I thought he was that creature, for he told the farmer where to leave the eggs and the goat. But alas, this fat and big strong man was just the bodyguard it seems of the real animal-man, for the farmer soon found all his hundred eggs and goat missing. From inside a cage somewhere, the shells of the hundred eggs were spat back at him in one strong blow, and then a bunch of bones (what was left of the goat) also came hurtling though space at the farmer. The fat bodyguard laughed again in satisfaction at the farmer's disgust that his eggs and goat were thus consumed and their remains spat out in seconds. The bodyguard then goes up to the cage and saying to the inmate "Your time to go out has come" (or something to that effect). The camera pans to show us a fleeting glimpse of this animal-man, and he is found to be a really hairy scarface, presumably with a body built like a mountain. (His best description by Mahchuchak was that he is an animal that walks on two legs!)

So this is what Mahchuchak plans to send to Agra to kidnap Jodha? I know when the kidnap promo came out yesterday of this animal-man kidnapping Jodha, and Jodha shouting for Jalal, and Jalal running behind this creature with a sword, a lot of people wrote that this promo was "scary". I think it's going to be so ridiculous that we won't even be able to take it seriously and we may all laugh our stomachs out in hysterical howling! This is really utter rubbish!

Anyway in the precap of the episode there was a bit of something interesting. Jalal was seen angry with Jodha for hiding the truth of the pregnancy from him, and Jodha was holding her own saying "I could not compromise the war by telling you this in the middle of the war.". They are both in Jalal's hojra, I think, which suggests that the DEK-cum-throne- plan of Jodha's did not work as a venue for telling Jalal the truth about the pregnancy. Maybe he has heard it from someone else and is miffed that Jodha didn't tell him herself? Whatever it is I am sure his anger will be of real short duration and a few petty words later, they both will get euphoric about the impending baby rather than stay miffed at the secretiveness behind it!

My comments on the episode:

I have found it so much easier to write comments on the past two episodes even though there was so much to write about and I didn't know how much to say and how much to leave out. Here I am today scratching my head for something to say about this pathetic episode before the little power in my laptop battery runs out - and I am struggling!

I thought that in the earlier part of the episode that promise of Jalal, that he will give his three begums one wish each for a lifetime that he will grant to them, was a bit too generous. I have fears now that Ruq may use her wish in some way detrimental to Jodha's pregnancy interests. These kinds of blanket wishes that Jalal grants are to be taken with fear. We never know which Begum will ask for what and at what crucial juncture. Salima, I am sure, will not misuse her wish, as also Jodha. At least they may ask for positive things. But I am feeling jittery about Ruq being given this wish. I don't know if Maham may sway her to use her wish in a very negative way! I hope Salima and Jodha will therefore reserve their wishes till they have seen what Ruq wishes for, so that they can then use their wishes to neutralise Ruq's wish if it's a negative one!

The second point I want to make is: who may have told Jalal about Jodha's pregnancy? Granted that Bharmal easily noticed his daughter may be pregnant by the glow on her face, but in actuality, besides Jodha, Moti and the hakima, no one else knew ... except maybe that Mrs. Big Ears Maham may have overheard something and blabbed to Jalal? Possible ... in fact quite probable.

Diksha had a fleeting moment's doubt that maybe this precap tiff between Jalal and Jodha was someone's dream, which also sounds possible to me. We have had many such dreams before of conversations, so just because Jalal asked and Jodha answered we cannot discount this as "not a dream" because there was both a question and an answer between the two of them. (The usual feeling sometimes is that if the dream has too many lifelike questions and even answers, or two-way interactions, it may not be a dream after all).

I don't know if the despatching of Hakim Mirza with Munim Khan has some story value or not, and I didn't quite get where Jalal was sending Hakim to. So maybe that part of the story needs careful watching?

Beyond these few points there was nothing much else to talk about. Maybe some tingling feelings in me were aroused when Jalal bowed and saluted Jodha for her win in the war, and when she rose to accept his praise with her own silent thanks. But the precap of the previous episode had already evoked all my sentiments in this regard ... so yesterday when the real scene appeared there wasn't much left to feel about this interaction.

I think I'll yield now to my dwindling battery (my own and my laptop's) and say that this is yet another Friday that leaves a dissatisfied feeling over the weekend. Hope Monday's episode sees the beginning and quick end to the tiff about the pregnancy between Jalal and Jodha and then all preparations are afoot for the mega jashn when Jodha will come dressed in Mughal livaaz and the animal-man will get right royal entry into the Agra palace to kidnap her. Can even a man-mountain not be stopped from entering the palace by the sentries at Agra, or will this man-mountain just fling them all off with a flick of his fingers?

I suspect next week may be full of the bizarre and the absurd till Jalal enthrals us with some terrific herogiri by slaying the animal-man. I am waiting to see some Jalal antics for a change since he had less to do in the war. I suspect Jalal may not be able to use just his usual repertoire of sipahi skills and may be stretched to produce something unique and spectacular from within himself to be able to save his pregnant wife from the "animal's" clutches. And so with outlandish thoughts of how Jalal may tackle the animal-man, I will bear my uninspiring weekend as best as I can.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, I am really surprised to see that you have managed to write about the episode and also managed to find your green lines. I did not find anything sensible in the episode except for the precap.

I am not unhappy with the fight between the leads in the precap, as these small fights are the spice of life, which the viewers and the leads need idesperately at this moment.

The new promo is going to be another cartoon show. Have you seen the big bearded villain in
Popeye' s show, somehow it reminded me of him, carrying away the heroine.

Lets just hope Monday will be a better day, till then take care...
Edited by indigodevi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi its amazing how you manage to write about disgusting episodes as well
Jala's promise reminded me of Ramayan and Dashrath but even he had promised only pne begum I mean queen not all three. Surely Rukaiya will use to for some illogical thing

Mansi why does it need to be someone else who told Jalal? It could be Jodha and he still may have lost his temper

I am not liking this animal man track. Its like some cgrade movie. I hate such overly exaggerated and junglee type of things

And what type of a person is Mahachuchek? She keeps killing people? Then why are people still loyal to her? I am not able to stand her anymore

Anyway I keep telling myself this will also end
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi,
So we had a boring episode today.
1)Vachan:-So Jalal is back to vachan .Many times he has given them.First to Ruku and she got 100 nights but they weren't fruitful for Mughal sultanate.😉Then to Jo ,he gave two of them for her religion and Kanha Mandir and no touch till her approval(this vachan was complimentary from his own side with the above two vachans)Mansi,I get scared when vachans are given.The first story comes to me is of kaykeyi and Dashrath.Now will Ruku turn into Kaykeyi and lead to Ramayana in JA ,only time will tell.Jo is definitely using the promise for pardoning of Nigar apa.We shouldn't be afraid of Salima.
That vachan thing was so much in my mind ,that I asked my better half, that will he give me a promise that I can ask anything I want.He gave me a cold look ,the one MA gives to Jo ,and said that the promise of bearing me for entire life ,he gave 7 yrs back ,should be enough for next 7 births.
Hmmm ... Marriage is so romantic after few years.😡

2) Animal Man :- Our dear friend ,Radhika ,made a hilarious remark today that this man is good husband material as he eats raw and no problem of cooking,I was also saying how lucky his wife would be .But then it occurred to me ...wait look at him ...what a monster he is...what about his other needs.God spare the wife.With this I ran to cook for the man of my house.

3) Bharmal :- Bharmal's was a guest entry in the war.But it was fruitful as he came to know about the bravery of his daughter and grandson.Now Bharmal catching the pregnancy glow was but obvious as he was father of many kids.So exp speaks here.But what did he say "Abhinna Mitra"? But Jo got clue
that her dad has come to know about the Top secret.But what was hilarious was that Man singh who was standing there also understood the code language between both of them .He smiled .Tomm he is gonna tweet everywhere ,My Buasa is preg and thus the news is out.Next we will see Mansingh taking selfies with Buasa in all her stages of pregnancy.How sweet.

4) Kissa Khabar ka:- Now there are diff views that why did she hid the preggy news even when war was over.And that to from the major contributor of this good news ,her Jalal.I say him major rather larger contributor as he had to do lot of "Papad Belna" from last one year to woo her for this.😉In that Bichara got a Dhakka too.
I did not buy the DEK revelation of preg thing.Rather if she had told him the day when he came back ,he would have send others further and would have spend some alone time with her for two to three days,saying that she is tired and in this condition she should take rest and then travel.This would have been so romantic and they could have discussed baby to their heart's content.

5)Precap :-Now many unmarried members here were unhappy that Jalal was yelling at Jo.So me and our friend Lashy ,were telling them from our exp that he was just showing the concern as a husband and would be father.He is so submerged in her love like a gulabjamun dipped in sugar syrup that he can never be angry with her.We even told them that when husband is angry with you ,because of his concern ,care and love for you,then it is so romantic and how it turns the wife on.😉
let's see what happens next week.Happy weekend.
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very aptly titled post. There were only 2 things to talk about, the boogie man and the precap. Bas. Although I am surprised you dint comment on the absurdity that war was declared over. I mean how, Shenu escaped, AM escaped, they aren't dead, Shenu's misunderstanding remains...no resolution on MCB, for all they know MCB could attack again. All this happening and Jalal is thokoing salaam to his begum. This Jalal has turned into jhalla number 1!
I would rather see Jalal and Jo having vartalaap than MCB prancing around with her sartaaj (even as her daughter goes all doe-eyed on her New abba). As much as I like Mita Vashisth, I cannot see her turn Kabul into cougar town. Very soon we will see Afghan high commission join karni Sena to protest against such dismal NR of a former ruler.

The only positive is that story is moving fast, we have already seen the promo and boogie man has been called upon by MCB. Next week Jashn, kidnap and the week after some resolution on war front. Us ke baad I am hoping to see some gentle love from Jalal for his Jo and unborn child.

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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi,

So we had a boring episode today.
1)Vachan:-So Jalal is back to vachan .Many times he has given them.First to Ruku and she got 100 nights but they weren't fruitful for Mughal sultanate.😉Then to Jo ,he gave two of them for her religion and Kanha Mandir and no touch till her approval(this vachan was complimentary from his own side with the above two vachans)Mansi,I get scared when vachans are given.The first story comes to me is of kaykeyi and Dashrath.Now will Ruku turn into Kaykeyi and lead to Ramayana in JA ,only time will tell.Jo is definitely using the promise for pardoning of Nigar apa.We shouldn't be afraid of Salima.
That vachan thing was so much in my mind ,that I asked my better half, that will he give me a promise that I can ask anything I want.He gave me a cold look ,the one MA gives to Jo ,and said that the promise of bearing me for entire life ,he gave 7 yrs back ,should be enough for next 7 births.
Hmmm ... Marriage is so romantic after few years.😡

2) Animal Man :- Our dear friend ,Radhika ,made a hilarious remark today that this man is good husband material as he eats raw and no problem of cooking,I was also saying how lucky his wife would be .But then it occurred to me ...wait look at him ...what a monster he is...what about his other needs.God spare the wife.With this I ran to cook for the man of my house.

3) Bharmal :- Bharmal's was a guest entry in the war.But it was fruitful as he came to know about the bravery of his daughter and grandson.Now Bharmal catching the pregnancy glow was but obvious as he was father of many kids.So exp speaks here.But what did he say "Abhinna Mitra"? But Jo got clue
that her dad has come to know about the Top secret.But what was hilarious was that Man singh who was standing there also understood the code language between both of them .He smiled .Tomm he is gonna tweet everywhere ,My Buasa is preg and thus the news is out.Next we will see Mansingh taking selfies with Buasa in all her stages of pregnancy.How sweet.

4) Kissa Khabar ka:- Now there are diff views that why did she hid the preggy news even when war was over.And that to from the major contributor of this good news ,her Jalal.I say him major rather larger contributor as he had to do lot of "Papad Belna" from last one year to woo her for this.😉In that Bichara got a Dhakka too.
I did not buy the DEK revelation of preg thing.Rather if she had told him the day when he came back ,he would have send others further and would have spend some alone time with her for two to three days,saying that she is tired and in this condition she should take rest and then travel.This would have been so romantic and they could have discussed baby to their heart's content.

5)Precap :-Now many unmarried members here were unhappy that Jalal was yelling at Jo.So me and our friend Lashy ,were telling them from our exp that he was just showing the concern as a husband and would be father.He is so submerged in her love like a gulabjamun dipped in sugar syrup that he can never be angry with her.We even told them that when husband is angry with you ,because of his concern ,care and love for you,then it is so romantic and how it turns the wife on.😉
let's see what happens next week.Happy weekend.


You post is so funny🤣

And its also giving me some perspectives on my forthcoming marriage . Ok so its better to cook for the man dont expect any vachans beyond the saat phera and if he shouts thats concern😆

Ok on a serious note i dint mind the shouting either. Nothing new in that ye to hota reheta hai😆

I dont know how I will tolerate that animal man though. Actualy Mahchuchek should marry him. He is her match
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi mansi

Cheer up! I look at it as Comedy Circus :) then it's not so bad!

The way Jalal gives boons to his Begum is like how gods used to give boons to demons in the olden days. What if ruq asks Jalal to divorce all his other Begums and keep only her as his wife?

Last week, we saw 70s movie style histrionics and now we see those 80s style gorilla villains and dainty damsels in distress, shouting delicately 'macho' and the hero coming and finishing off the gorilla with a Few punches and a lot of foul words.

Precap: I feel Jodha faints and Jalal is worried. He calls the hakima and she tells him abt the pregnancy.

I feel the whole purpose of having the ape man is that Jalal can show his hero girl and prove Jodha does need him to save her. This is to appease fans who hated to see him being relegated to the backdrop while Jodha wins the war.

MC is a combo of Maham and Javeda. Villain-comic.
LOL

Happy weekend! :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Worst episode Mansi... guess you should rename this episode as MC and uski romance karne ki 1000 tareeke... and that beast ..to show how many eggs he il eat.. and precap ..arso baad ye dono ladne lage hai.. ladne do..in dono ki ladayi kuch naya bhi to nahi..HB or salima will explain to jalal... moti to jodha..then patch up... is it really necessary to show this much violence in the show..first kidnapped jalal and tortured him..now its Jo...mana hai is show main logics expect nahi karte.. phir bhi a beast ..zaalim darinda kidnapping jo in her hojra..what the hell the secruity was doing.. how did he get entry in d palace... kidnapping pregnant women and torturing her and trying to molest .. we all knew jo il be saved by jalal..just hope nothing should happen to thr baby...too much of violence spoils the magic of JA love story...
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Thanks for struggling to say something about this pathetic episode. Your laptop's battery is wise and compassionate to force you to take a break. Like it, my own mental battery is also about to run out. 😊

The forthcoming King-Kong knock off will be a new low, even by the most forgiving standards. If someone finds it "scary" as a few have said, I can only congratulate them, for at least they will get some thrill out of it. As someone who actually enjoyed some very good alien and monster movies in my youth, I expect to feel mainly emptiness as well as irritation with myself for wasting time.

I shudder to think that there is now a real possibility that for the next few episodes I may find myself remembering Benazir and Sujamal/KS days with longing and nostalgia!

Whenever JA episodes sink to new lows, I usually seek asylum in either the 2008 movie, or in one of the previous episodes of the series:

* First Gangaur festival
* Sukanya's wedding
* Badal-Kajri
* When Jalal prevents a mob from burning a widow (seperation track)
* When Jalal recognizes Jodha among veiled dancers (seperation track)

I have these saved, so I can fast forward through any boring parts that are obligatory even in otherwise good episodes. I did the same today, reaching back to Sukanya's wedding to change the taste in my mouth and the emptiness in my heart.

It so happens that my wife tends to watch the well-known BBC serial Downton Abbey around the same time when I watch JA, and later we usually chitchat a little about each. When I mentioned how I felt today, she replied as she often does, "I told you that you should have started Downton Abbey with me instead!" I too reminded her, as always, that I am really not a TV serials person, but there was this promise of making a contact with Indian history/civilization that pulled me into JA. However, today I was also forced to add my wish that one day someone as sincere and as capable as "Team Downton Abbey" will remake JA.

I should have simply skipped this clownish "war". Nothing about it had looked promising. Just before it began, the Mughal Empire had its energies focused on one attempted molestation charge: with the accuser, the accused and every witness present on palace grounds, it couldn't investigate or handle even that properly. I should have recognized another clue when the forces of Mughal Empire and Kabul could only field 5-6 horses each, possibly fewer. Having missed that one, yet another clue, this one as subtle as a lead brick falling on your head, came when the Emperor took off his helmet mid-battle, then left the battlefield and started searching for his "Apa". Could it have been worse? Well, possibly yes; Javeda could have walked through the battlefield making comments and asking questions about what was happening. However, even without such help it was convincingly bad, pretty low.

There are many majestic portrayals of wars in the history of cinema and TV, and all of us would understand if JA's producers didn't have the budget to match those. However, films such as "Seven Samurai" and "High Noon" make us realize that even small scale conflicts can be presented in a gripping way.

I am now tempted to skip whatever dark shadow remains of this "war". I will keep in touch with written commentary such as yours and then watch the episodes more selectively than I have till now.

As I said, if someone does manage to get a real thrill or scare out of the coming "Incredible Hulk" scenes, they should consider themselves very fortunate. Good monsters are rare nowadays, just as good writers, producers, and directors are.

Edited by AKT.JA - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada


You post is so funny🤣

And its also giving me some perspectives on my forthcoming marriage . Ok so its better to cook for the man dont expect any vachans beyond the saat phera and if he shouts thats concern😆

Ok on a serious note i dint mind the shouting either. Nothing new in that ye to hota reheta hai😆

I dont know how I will tolerate that animal man though. Actualy Mahchuchek should marry him. He is her match

Hi,
Dear thanks for liking the post.
Congratulations for the upcoming marriage and best of luck for the future.Agar Aapko ,Aapke better half "Bade acche Lagte hain" to ye "pavitra rishta" hamesha successful rahega.Some explanation on my points-
1)Cooking :-I think anyone of you knows it is good.The one who makes other cook is always the clear winner.😉
2)Shouting:- Shouting is out of love and concern, is only told to kids in the house .Otherwise whoever remains unaffected and cool is winner. 😉
In the end ,what we get in our life is much better than what we see on the screen.

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