Episode has a ridiculous storyline and severe paucity of quality! - Page 8

Originally posted by: skanda12

Originally posted by: ---jais---

Dhiksha i cannot quote because i am on mobile but your take on jalal in first part it was hillarious .
And jodha part i loved it

Originally posted by: deejagi

I really don't know whether I should crib for whatever has been shown or try and find some finer points which could sound optimistic even in situation like this. Ok I will start writing whatever comes to my mind be it positive or negative.

Ok to begin with I just can't believe a shrewd king like Jalal believed in some random girl's ranting that she is his father's daughter without any proof. No one had identified her as Nigar Banu, daughter of late Humayu and his wife Chand Begum. She didn't even gave some proof except for her screaming words that she is here to take revenge on him for his crime to keep her mother captive and for snatching her right in Mughal Sultanate. That's it, he believed in her words, even without seeing the farman which was said to be written by his father, and started weeping for missing his sister and her love and her Rakhi. So now I can understand why Maham was so confident of getting Delhi Taqth for Adham Khan, Jalal will not look for proof when it comes to his father and his lineage. So all Maham had to do was to install some imposter as Humayun's daughter and fake that so called Farman of Humayun and get that girl somehow married to Adham Khan. Forget about Jalal, let's give him some slack as he was young and with extreme love towards his father, he would have kept dividing his fortune and sultanate for all those people who started claiming themselves as kin's of Humayun, but what is it with Hamida Banu. Atgah Khan and Todarmal, who were elders and why they didn't look for some evidence which showed that she was infact Nigar? How could even they get convinced that she was Nigar, the daughter of Chand Begum? God knows how many more would have come out ...Then if he was to divide his sultanate for Nigar, why not give a slack to Bakshi and Mirza? Even they were Humayun's kids. Just because Humayun forgot to write a farman or didn't love their mothers as much as he loved Chand Begum, doesn't allow them to seek mere alms from the Badhshah.

Now coming to yesterday's episode, how the hell Mahac was so sure that Abul Mali & Nigar will capture Jalal and that he will not die in the war field? And what is it with exact 30 hours duration of torture? Why not 24 hour or forty eight hours? Moreover, how well did they gauge Jalal's weakness for his sister? If Nigar knew that Jalal will succumb to her trick, then she must also have been aware of his love for her? Without love, why would he risk his life for her? Without love, why he would have followed her blindly to her den? Ok, now I have my theory of Nigar double crossing Abul Mali by joining her hands with Jalal (anyways, this is a feeble chance) that Jalal will go with her as a hostage and she will ensure that he will not be killed. So she built up that story of Mahachuchak giving them an instruction to torture Jalal for 30 hours so that they can gain some time to outsmart Mali's army? Or is it that MC actually gave them the instructions to keep torturing him for 30 hours and while they were engaged in this torture process, she will silently march towards Agra and take over the sultanate and then order her men to trash Nigar along with her brother Jalal? If it was indeed a plan of Mahac to keep Jalal alive for 30 hours even after capturing him, then we can see her entry soon in the war field or in front of Hamida to tease her that she could win the taqth with her strength and strategy while she lost her chance to retain her Marrium Makkani post.

Anyways, I was much impressed with the harem ladies than the men folks. It's true that Jalal didn't had enough army to fight but that doesn't mean he had only a few people who were engaged to dig pits fro the ladies to hide themselves in case Abul Mali choose to chase them. And what is with Jalal hinting Jodha that she need not have to think of Jouhar now as she is Mughal queen now? Does that means she should not die using fire but should kill herself by consuming poison, So that her beauty will not be altered, even after death? Come on guy, if you are taking this knee jerk actions every time, there is no wonder Ruqu kept so much of Poison in stock. I could see so many faces (Jalal's wives) were not so ready to consume poison when it was given to them. It was like I have not even spent few days with the king and now I have to die for him. It might have looked utter nonsense to them. What was the safety Jalal and his great warrior comrades gave them by bringing the harem along with them to the war field? They would have been better off left in Agra palace. There atleast they had the four strong walls as hideout but here they are left in the open space and are more vulnerable and prone to enemy attack? Does it means, Jalal had only some 20 soldiers with him when he went to war (may be those were used to carry the palanquins of the queens and later to dig the ground? So Jalal took 4 people with him and gave 3 to Atgah Khan alongwith Adham Khan and 3 to Munim Khan along with Hakim Mirza. So that the 3 troops went to fight had 5 people per team and Todarmal was given 10 people to guard the Harem. Now I can understand why they never showed us any wars but gave the news of victory always as Jalal doesn't have soldiers in his account.

Ok, jokes apart, yes, it was the case when the king has gone to war the news was not in favour of their side normally the queens used to get ready to kill themselves and used to send the kids to a much safer place with some trusted people. Ruqu as the first wives and chief queen took the responsibility to handover the poison bottle to each an devery lady of the harem including Resham Khan. Then JB made her great entry and RB gave her the remaining bottle of poison and conveyed the message that we will all consume this the moment we get the news of Jalal's death. And it was worth watching Maham's expressions when JB threw the bottle to the floor and said she will not drink. Jodha made her statement clear to all by saying her mind and soul are still in peace that means, her husband is still safe and nothing will happen to him and he will come back and save them. Though RB liked her confidence, she still tried to educate JB about what will happen to the remains of kings harem once they lose the war but JB was adamant on her stand and RB had no choice what so ever to convince Jodha on this case.

Btw, where were Atgah Khan & Munim Khan and their subordinates? It was good to see the ladies as a team took decision yesterday though the deciders were only HB, SB, RB & JB. The rest of the wives looked like they are ready to run for their life if given a chance, but alas, RB stole their chance by declaring, without the King his queens will not return to the safety of Agra palace. HB went a step ahead and said, without the king, what is the meaning of Harem that means, if the king is not there, there is no need to save the harem, let them die but go ahead and save my son. What a doting mother. So they convinced TM to go ahead with the remains of the army to save Jalal as they can safeguard themselves but not their Shehenshah. Without his army, it is difficult for him to escape.

Why was Jalal screaming so much at Abul Mali after Nigar gave him 30 hours' time of life? What was the need to scream if you save me now, I will kill you later? What was the need to scream his wives are brave and will fight their war themselves? (Saving themselves).

And from the precap, we can see that Abul Mali had entered the unguarded tents of harem ladies with 2 of his men carrying blood stained armors and sword of Jalal. He had conveyed the message that their king is no more and this is the proof of his death. RB who had been seeing such scenes from her childhood looked convinced about the news and may collapse and SB will try to console her. Hope no other lady consumes poison in hurry. Jodha may take a stand that she can't believe their king is dead and if he were dead, AM would have brought his head and the sword. Had it been a victory, Am would not have come like this only 2 bodyguards but would have tried to loot the entire Mughal tents and would not have waited to see their reaction. Had Jalal died, Nigar would have come to them instantly and would not have sent AM and stayed back. Now I mean today we may see her declare her decision to wage war on the enemy. She may express her decision to others that if at all she had to die, she will die as a fighter and before death, she will ensure to damage the enemy force to the maximum. As a Rajvanshi she doesn't fear death, and as a Mughal queen she feels it is her duty to Mughal sultanate that she will fight the war for her people and for husband. If anybody wants to join her, they can but her decision is final and she is going to fight till victory or death. So this may give some hopes and strength to the other Begums and even they might think of joining hands with Jodha and RB & SB would be the first few to join.

One more thought strikes my mind but may not be relevant, but with the way things are happening in warzone, I feel that there is no army left at Agra apart from Sharif and his henchmen. So what if he himself ascends the throne by calling himself Shehensha and closes the gates for Jalal and his family?

Originally posted by: skanda12

Originally posted by: preetgurti

Diksha I judt love your post I am going to doctor aake wikk type big long comment
be ready I am gonna pakao u

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Very good , Jaya... but why u r now expecting so much of logic , when we haven't got it anytime right from start???😕

Originally posted by: deejagi

I really don't know whether I should crib for whatever has been shown or try and find some finer points which could sound optimistic even in situation like this. Ok I will start writing whatever comes to my mind be it positive or negative.

Ok to begin with I just can't believe a shrewd king like Jalal believed in some random girl's ranting that she is his father's daughter without any proof. No one had identified her as Nigar Banu, daughter of late Humayu and his wife Chand Begum. She didn't even gave some proof except for her screaming words that she is here to take revenge on him for his crime to keep her mother captive and for snatching her right in Mughal Sultanate. That's it, he believed in her words, even without seeing the farman which was said to be written by his father, and started weeping for missing his sister and her love and her Rakhi. So now I can understand why Maham was so confident of getting Delhi Taqth for Adham Khan, Jalal will not look for proof when it comes to his father and his lineage. So all Maham had to do was to install some imposter as Humayun's daughter and fake that so called Farman of Humayun and get that girl somehow married to Adham Khan. Forget about Jalal, let's give him some slack as he was young and with extreme love towards his father, he would have kept dividing his fortune and sultanate for all those people who started claiming themselves as kin's of Humayun, but what is it with Hamida Banu. Atgah Khan and Todarmal, who were elders and why they didn't look for some evidence which showed that she was infact Nigar? How could even they get convinced that she was Nigar, the daughter of Chand Begum? God knows how many more would have come out ...Then if he was to divide his sultanate for Nigar, why not give a slack to Bakshi and Mirza? Even they were Humayun's kids. Just because Humayun forgot to write a farman or didn't love their mothers as much as he loved Chand Begum, doesn't allow them to seek mere alms from the Badhshah.

Jaya, Jalal will not question anybody's parentage after seeing that his father has had numerous wives, and many of them have like Mahchuchak would have gone haywire. He would have learnt from experience that it is better to believe than to disbelieve someone if they say they are the child of Humayun, because forget the count of the children, Jalal may not even have the count of how many wives his father had, I think.😆😆😆😆

Now coming to yesterday's episode, how the hell Mahac was so sure that Abul Mali & Nigar will capture Jalal and that he will not die in the war field? And what is it with exact 30 hours duration of torture? Why not 24 hour or forty eight hours? Moreover, how well did they gauge Jalal's weakness for his sister? If Nigar knew that Jalal will succumb to her trick, then she must also have been aware of his love for her? Without love, why would he risk his life for her? Without love, why he would have followed her blindly to her den? Ok, now I have my theory of Nigar double crossing Abul Mali by joining her hands with Jalal (anyways, this is a feeble chance) that Jalal will go with her as a hostage and she will ensure that he will not be killed. So she built up that story of Mahachuchak giving them an instruction to torture Jalal for 30 hours so that they can gain some time to outsmart Mali's army? Or is it that MC actually gave them the instructions to keep torturing him for 30 hours and while they were engaged in this torture process, she will silently march towards Agra and take over the sultanate and then order her men to trash Nigar along with her brother Jalal? If it was indeed a plan of Mahac to keep Jalal alive for 30 hours even after capturing him, then we can see her entry soon in the war field or in front of Hamida to tease her that she could win the taqth with her strength and strategy while she lost her chance to retain her Marrium Makkani post.

The idea of exact 30 hours of torture is so that the Creatives can go for a refresher course of 30 hours on how to write scripts. Then they can come back and write a new track from the time the 30 hours is over, and they can bring a newly refreshed Jalal to the aid of Jodha's mirchi war!

Anyways, I was much impressed with the harem ladies than the men folks. It's true that Jalal didn't had enough army to fight but that doesn't mean he had only a few people who were engaged to dig pits fro the ladies to hide themselves in case Abul Mali choose to chase them. And what is with Jalal hinting Jodha that she need not have to think of Jouhar now as she is Mughal queen now? Does that means she should not die using fire but should kill herself by consuming poison, So that her beauty will not be altered, even after death? Come on guy, if you are taking this knee jerk actions every time, there is no wonder Ruqu kept so much of Poison in stock. I could see so many faces (Jalal's wives) were not so ready to consume poison when it was given to them. It was like I have not even spent few days with the king and now I have to die for him. It might have looked utter nonsense to them. What was the safety Jalal and his great warrior comrades gave them by bringing the harem along with them to the war field? They would have been better off left in Agra palace. There atleast they had the four strong walls as hideout but here they are left in the open space and are more vulnerable and prone to enemy attack? Does it means, Jalal had only some 20 soldiers with him when he went to war (may be those were used to carry the palanquins of the queens and later to dig the ground? So Jalal took 4 people with him and gave 3 to Atgah Khan alongwith Adham Khan and 3 to Munim Khan along with Hakim Mirza. So that the 3 troops went to fight had 5 people per team and Todarmal was given 10 people to guard the Harem. Now I can understand why they never showed us any wars but gave the news of victory always as Jalal doesn't have soldiers in his account.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ok, jokes apart, yes, it was the case when the king has gone to war the news was not in favour of their side normally the queens used to get ready to kill themselves and used to send the kids to a much safer place with some trusted people. Ruqu as the first wives and chief queen took the responsibility to handover the poison bottle to each an devery lady of the harem including Resham Khan. Then JB made her great entry and RB gave her the remaining bottle of poison and conveyed the message that we will all consume this the moment we get the news of Jalal's death. And it was worth watching Maham's expressions when JB threw the bottle to the floor and said she will not drink. Jodha made her statement clear to all by saying her mind and soul are still in peace that means, her husband is still safe and nothing will happen to him and he will come back and save them. Though RB liked her confidence, she still tried to educate JB about what will happen to the remains of kings harem once they lose the war but JB was adamant on her stand and RB had no choice what so ever to convince Jodha on this case.

Btw, where were Atgah Khan & Munim Khan and their subordinates? It was good to see the ladies as a team took decision yesterday though the deciders were only HB, SB, RB & JB. The rest of the wives looked like they are ready to run for their life if given a chance, but alas, RB stole their chance by declaring, without the King his queens will not return to the safety of Agra palace. HB went a step ahead and said, without the king, what is the meaning of Harem that means, if the king is not there, there is no need to save the harem, let them die but go ahead and save my son. What a doting mother. So they convinced TM to go ahead with the remains of the army to save Jalal as they can safeguard themselves but not their Shehenshah. Without his army, it is difficult for him to escape.

Why was Jalal screaming so much at Abul Mali after Nigar gave him 30 hours' time of life? What was the need to scream if you save me now, I will kill you later? What was the need to scream his wives are brave and will fight their war themselves? (Saving themselves).

And from the precap, we can see that Abul Mali had entered the unguarded tents of harem ladies with 2 of his men carrying blood stained armors and sword of Jalal. He had conveyed the message that their king is no more and this is the proof of his death. RB who had been seeing such scenes from her childhood looked convinced about the news and may collapse and SB will try to console her. Hope no other lady consumes poison in hurry. Jodha may take a stand that she can't believe their king is dead and if he were dead, AM would have brought his head and the sword. Had it been a victory, Am would not have come like this only 2 bodyguards but would have tried to loot the entire Mughal tents and would not have waited to see their reaction. Had Jalal died, Nigar would have come to them instantly and would not have sent AM and stayed back. Now I mean today we may see her declare her decision to wage war on the enemy. She may express her decision to others that if at all she had to die, she will die as a fighter and before death, she will ensure to damage the enemy force to the maximum. As a Rajvanshi she doesn't fear death, and as a Mughal queen she feels it is her duty to Mughal sultanate that she will fight the war for her people and for husband. If anybody wants to join her, they can but her decision is final and she is going to fight till victory or death. So this may give some hopes and strength to the other Begums and even they might think of joining hands with Jodha and RB & SB would be the first few to join.

One more thought strikes my mind but may not be relevant, but with the way things are happening in warzone, I feel that there is no army left at Agra apart from Sharif and his henchmen. So what if he himself ascends the throne by calling himself Shehensha and closes the gates for Jalal and his family?

I have no answer for this one ... its priceless!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

Originally posted by: deejagi

Unless I expect logic, how can I realize that they are not giving any logic?😆😆 but surely I have been laughing like a manic ever since Shenu gave Jalal 30 hours time and both my husband & daughter suggested that I should not watch such serials which make me look insane, instead I should start watching news.😳