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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

What makes you think I am in a mood plummeting? I feel as good as I usually do! You've got the serial right perhaps but I am afraid you've got the wrong handle on me!😆
I have actually written what I saw on screen: I have accepted the aberrations in the storyline as par for the course of TRP-juicing, and I have pointed out the quality paucity that I saw.
Maybe since you are seeing a lot of mood plummeting around the forum, you may be thinking I am feeling the same way, but rest assured I am not!


Thanks for responding. I remember the post a few days back when you gave a vivid description of how you called the ZEE office, pretending to be child who was going to miss the coming few episodes. Then that ZEE wallah gave you some info which you thought were spoilers. You then built your entire case on the ZEE wallah's utterings.

I think we need to understand that these low paid front end executives of ZEE, have no idea what is going on in the serials. They are asked to parrot a certain line, by their executives and they do that with aplomb. Trusting anything they say is a waste of time.

As for the plummeting of the mood, my mood is fine and so is the mood of many others in this forum. Of course, I realize that are some who have certain view of Akbar which does not agree with what is shown in the serial. But, they are a vociferous minority and I would request you not to imagine that their views reflect the views of this forum.

As I said in my earlier post, one needs to acknowledge that this is a serial by Ekta, inconsistencies will abound, but if you focus on the performances, there is much to enjoy.

A post was made yesterday where it was claimed that the opinion of those on Facebook or Twitter was drastically different to those of some on this forum. I checked it out, indeed it is true, the people on Facebook are loving this track.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

NO Mansi, I think she gave it to both Maham and her chamchi Resham as well and so I was wondering why to resham? Why can't they use Resham and co in warfare or as sipayees to the ladies safety.

Waste of poison giving to Maham.Javeda had only said that No poison in this world would harm Maham.Maham is Samara Morgan of "The Ring" , a psycho who never sleeps.
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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wonderful take , Mansi... and just superb positivity...

but Twinni , u have put me in fix today... I had promised , i m not giving any take for such craps not even positive ones... but, for u i ll give one... may be after some time...

but for the whole take of urs, u deserve 👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rak014

Great write up mansi!

The episode was not a bad one, except that jalal torturing part! That was disgusting! And abul mali's speech!🤢
Though we have enormous hatred for shehnaaz and AM, i am sure, shehnaaz will be forgiven! I am mentally preparing myself for that!

I dont think we should believe zee man! He has lied to us before! Fine, that is the only hope left now! Lets hope he is telling the truth!

I think we should get used to the way the show is going! We have been seeing a weak jalal and strong Jodha since a long time, but our optimism had held us here! Now, i dont think there will be any changes brought in the story-line so as to give us a strong Jalal! If CV's were to bring any changes, they would have brought it long ago!

Yesterday's episode did have some positive scenes!

1.It was great to see jalal's confidence on his harem ladies! He knows that harem ladies will fight back! He knows what HIS Jodha is! He knows she will never let his harem go in the hands of AM!

2.And Jodha reflected the same thing! "hum rajvanshi auratein talwar utana bhi jaante hain, aur jauhar karna bhi!" 👏 No doubt, there is some kind of telepathic conmection between these two!😳

3.TM proved his loyality for Jallu yet again! He said he would never show his face again to mughul sultanate, if he fails to find out Jalal! Now, if Maan singh was with jallu, and if TM comes across MS while looking for jalal, they may go together and find him out!

4.Though i am a forbid Ruku hater, i loved ruq-jo bonding yesterday! Ruk didnt try to shut jo up with her teda,rude dialogues! She was sensible yesterday! But the question is how long?😆

5.Jalal's stubborness! I loved jalal's stubborness yesterday,inspite of being tortured so much by AM, he didnt give up!

6.Lastly, i loved Jo's dialogues in the last secene! Though it sounded filmy, she meant it!😳

I donno if i have succeded in restoring your positivity, but i am saying again,"we should get used to the way the story is going!"

Rak there are three different Zee men. One of them whom I have befriended has so far been about 80% correct so I tend to take his words a bit seriously. The other two are highly avoidable. And the lady at Zee is pathetic. If one of the wrong ones come on the line I just hang up. If my favourite man comes, I take some hope from his words because he has never let me down so far. But any Zee calling is a separate art, which I will discuss in some fiiuture post!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi Episode was neither good nor bad...I am not here to give my analysis today...once again sorry if I hurt anyone...I really feel bad mansi people are bashing jo and jalal for no reason..many are not ready to see or accept wat is shown on tv...people wanted to see a jalal who kill others with no mercy...and wanted him to kill abumali and shenu.. agree cv's made a blunder by showing jalal as captive and tortured by abumali..but lets see the whole track and then decide...and come to conlucison..

its just that we cannot see abumali torturing Jalal...and Jodha dialogues...Many feel that Jo's dialogues were too filmy..but according to me its not filmy...they both are soul mates..if something happens to jalal then jo wont be able to live with out him..both cant not live with out each other..they cannot withstand others pain...I feel pity and sad to see the forum members who says Jo's dialogues were too filmy ..agar yahi dialogues jalal kehta to jalal ka pyar..but since it was said by Jo it looked filmy...and Jo is the cause for what ever happened till date..jalal got caught by shenu and abumali bash Jo...everything people find reasons to bash jo ...they both are soul mates..y people are not understanding this fact

Coming to Akbar he was weak even In real life also wen it comes to relations...he had forgiven abumali many times ... He forgave MC who tried to kill him many times.. MC was killed by abumali...MC killed her own vazir beg... fact is that power made one to kill thr own... abumali was hanged by hakim mirza..sharif tried to kill jalal and went against him..he was forgiven thrice...the fourth time jalal asked bakshi to decide..it was bakshi who ordered to kill him ... MA tried to kill jalal..she was never loyal to akbar...after knowing she was the reason behind him to remain childless and she tried many conspiracies against him still he did not punish her..he just took away all her powers and kept under nazar bandh and he tried all possible ways to bring her back from her death bed...akbar killed adham with no mercy coz he killed atga...apart from this he never punished anyone..he was weak wen it comes to relations..he valued relationships in a thought that they may change for good ..but no... he did forgive bairam khan who did bagawat against him...no one were loyal to him except HB,salima and atga and rajvanshi's...this itself shows he was weak wen it comes to relationships.. he was a ruthless emperor in capturing kingdoms and in wars... but wen it comes to relationships he was weak from the day one..wen history itself proves this who are we to expect him to be ruthless wen it comes to relations..ekta is showing nothing wrong..this show is not about akbar the great how he captured kingdoms and wars..this show is about JA..how thr love over come all these problems..how they stood with each other and fought with enemies...this show is just to see emotional side of jalal.. and his emotions..in real life maansigh and jalal had a fight in dek and guess its fist fight..no one had the guts to face jalal..this shows his humbleness..this show is just to show emotional side of jalal...

I am not sure and I don't no in real if akbar was ever caught and taken as captive or not..lets not come to conclusion before watching the end of this war track..who knows may be jalal's plan to make shenu realize her mistake...no one had the guts to fight against jalal..but people wanted to see jalal doing herogiri and save everyone..wat wrong wen ladies trying to protect themselves in the absenece of him..thats wat jo and harem ladies are doing..just trying to protect themselves from abumali and his gang...for sure todarmal and maansing il help jalal or jalal he il escape... I still believe thr is something which we are not able to see and connec which we il get to no in the upcoming episodes..whether its jalal's master mind or foolishness... only upcoming episodes will give us hint...even in real life bagwan das and maansingh saved jalal many times..Jodha almost saved jalal twice... jodha infact saved salim from tiger attack ...this shows her bravery and fighting skills..wen history says that jalal was saved by rajvanshi's manytimes y people in this forum resist to accept the fact... though he may be a grt warrior but wen it comes to relationships he is and was weak..thats y abumali and shenu cheated him and took him as thr captive...they very well knows that they cannot win against jalal in war...so they backstabbed him.. people are thinking that jalal should kill shenu or should not be forgiven...wen inspite of knowing that abumali and his relatives tried to kill him still he forgave them..here shenu is brainwashed by abumali and MC...and more over she was brought up in a thought that jalal was the one behind this in that case any tom dick and harry will behave like this only..wen she gets to know the truth she il change ... life is not about taking revenge and killing or punishing others...its about forgiving others and to move on...be it god or any religion says this only... we always prays to god forgive us our trespasses,: as we forgive
those who trespass against us..wen he forgives his own one we call him foolishness or he is bumb...and blame Jo for everything and calls them mahaan.. people are having high expectations and not ready to accept anything shown out of thr expectations... agar akbar real life main sab ko maarta hi chala gaya to uski realtions ki naam main koi bhi zinda nahi hota.. hakim made akbar's life hell always went against him ..still he did not punish him... hakim died coz of his addicition to alcohol..zindagi main sab ko punish karte hi chale to humare saath chalne ke liye uar kehne ke liye ek bhi relation nahi hogi..this is life..just learn from mistakes and to move to...today I am not in a mood to write or analyse about yesterday's epi..just felt sick people bashing jo and jalal... pehle picture ki climax to dekne to do phir decide karenge..i no mansi many il argue or disagree with me..but just wanted to give my thought..i like both jodha and jalal..they are the usp of this show..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

NO Mansi, I think she gave it to both Maham and her chamchi Resham as well and so I was wondering why to resham? Why can't they use Resham and co in warfare or as sipayees to the ladies safety.

Oh did she give poison to maham also. You have made my day by saying that!😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gem12

Mansi Episode was neither good nor bad...I am not here to give my analysis today...once again sorry if I hurt anyone...I really feel bad mansi people are bashing jo and jalal for no reason..many are not ready to see or accept wat is shown on tv...people wanted to see a jalal who kill others with no mercy...and wanted him to kill abumali and shenu.. agree cv's made a blunder by showing jalal as captive and tortured by abumali..but lets see the whole track and then decide...and come to conlucison..

its just that we cannot see abumali torturing Jalal...and Jodha dialogues...Many feel that Jo's dialogues were too filmy..but according to me its not filmy...they both are soul mates..if something happens to jalal then jo wont be able to live with out him..both cant not live with out each other..they cannot withstand others pain...I feel pity and sad to see the forum members who says Jo's dialogues were too filmy ..agar yahi dialogues jalal kehta to jalal ka pyar..but since it was said by Jo it looked filmy...and Jo is the cause for what ever happened till date..jalal got caught by shenu and abumali bash Jo...everything people find reasons to bash jo ...they both are soul mates..y people are not understanding this fact

Coming to Akbar he was weak even In real life also wen it comes to relations...he had forgiven abumali many times ... He forgave MC who tried to kill him many times.. MC was killed by abumali...MC killed her own vazir beg... fact is that power made one to kill thr own... abumali was hanged by hakim mirza..sharif tried to kill jalal and went against him..he was forgiven thrice...the fourth time jalal asked bakshi to decide..it was bakshi who ordered to kill him ... MA tried to kill jalal..she was never loyal to akbar...after knowing she was the reason behind him to remain childless and she tried many conspiracies against him still he did not punish her..he just took away all her powers and kept under nazar bandh and he tried all possible ways to bring her back from her death bed...akbar killed adham with no mercy coz he killed atga...apart from this he never punished anyone..he was weak wen it comes to relations..he valued relationships in a thought that they may change for good ..but no... he did forgive bairam khan who did bagawat against him...no one were loyal to him except HB,salima and atga and rajvanshi's...this itself shows he was weak wen it comes to relationships.. he was a ruthless emperor in capturing kingdoms and in wars... but wen it comes to relationships he was weak from the day one..wen history itself proves this who are we to expect him to be ruthless wen it comes to relations..ekta is showing nothing wrong..this show is not about akbar the great how he captured kingdoms and wars..this show is about JA..how thr love over come all these problems..how they stood with each other and fought with enemies...this show is just to see emotional side of jalal.. and his emotions..in real life maansigh and jalal had a fight in dek and guess its fist fight..no one had the guts to face jalal..this shows his humbleness..this show is just to show emotional side of jalal...

I am not sure and I don't no in real if akbar was ever caught and taken as captive or not..lets not come to conclusion before watching the end of this war track..who knows may be jalal's plan to make shenu realize her mistake...no one had the guts to fight against jalal..but people wanted to see jalal doing herogiri and save everyone..wat wrong wen ladies trying to protect themselves in the absenece of him..thats wat jo and harem ladies are doing..just trying to protect themselves from abumali and his gang...for sure todarmal and maansing il help jalal or jalal he il escape... I still believe thr is something which we are not able to see and connec which we il get to no in the upcoming episodes..whether its jalal's master mind or foolishness... only upcoming episodes will give us hint...even in real life bagwan das and maansingh saved jalal many times..Jodha almost saved jalal twice... jodha infact saved salim from tiger attack ...this shows her bravery and fighting skills..wen history says that jalal was saved by rajvanshi's manytimes y people in this forum resist to accept the fact... though he may be a grt warrior but wen it comes to relationships he is and was weak..thats y abumali and shenu cheated him and took him as thr captive...they very well knows that they cannot win against jalal in war...so they backstabbed him.. people are thinking that jalal should kill shenu or should not be forgiven...wen inspite of knowing that abumali and his relatives tried to kill him still he forgave them..here shenu is brainwashed by abumali and MC...and more over she was brought up in a thought that jalal was the one behind this in that case any tom dick and harry will behave like this only..wen she gets to know the truth she il change ... life is not about taking revenge and killing or punishing others...its about forgiving others and to move on...be it god or any religion says this only... we always prays to god forgive us our trespasses,: as we forgive
those who trespass against us..wen he forgives his own one we call him foolishness or he is bumb...and blame Jo for everything and calls them mahaan.. people are having high expectations and not ready to accept anything shown out of thr expectations... agar akbar real life main sab ko maarta hi chala gaya to uski realtions ki naam main koi bhi zinda nahi hota.. hakim made akbar's life hell always went against him ..still he did not punish him... hakim died coz of his addicition to alcohol..zindagi main sab ko punish karte hi chale to humare saath chalne ke liye uar kehne ke liye ek bhi relation nahi hogi..this is life..just learn from mistakes and to move to...today I am not in a mood to write or analyse about yesterday's epi..just felt sick people bashing jo and jalal... pehle picture ki climax to dekne to do phir decide karenge..i no mansi many il argue or disagree with me..but just wanted to give my thought..i like both jodha and jalal..they are the usp of this show..

Beautiful post Gem.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Mansi,
Thanks for your optimistic writeup.. filled with positivity that indeed should cheer us up!! I would like to say that though Mansi we all crib at times when they show something which is really frustrating to watch.. like Ruks pregnancy track.. but in the end we all are very positive people.. we are ones who can't bear to see "negativity" we can't bear to see wrong things.. .. For eg.. yes we crib when we see Ruks insulting Jodha and Jodha taking all of it quietly.. ?? Its unbearable to watch something like this continuously.. Yes, its true that we have the remote with us..if cant bear to watch it .. we can always shut down our TV sets or watch something better... But as I said earlier.. we are positive people so we always live on hope that maybe we will get something positive in the future and thats what keeps us glued to this show.. No doubt ..we all love JOdha-Akbar and thats why we all are here in this forum to share our views kuch Khatte-kuch meethe..

I personally feel its absolutely alright to give our honest opinions about the episodes though we all want to be very positive and always crave for a positive outcome and always wish that our Jodha Akbar to be number one show. We of course appreciate the good episodes, good scripts but we are the greatest critics as well .. and we keep bashing the CVS so that they keep improving.. and giving us the best.. though they dont always listen to us.. but atleast we put forth our views here..

As you correctly mentioned , yesterdays episode had many loopholes.. And Mansi what we hate to see is even though Jalal may prove himself to be shrewd and all this was his game.. yet he will let Abul mali escape.. yet MCB will escape to kabul and Nigaar will be forgiven.. .. we hate when vamps go scott free after doing all this.. If this is Natkiya rupantar..then.. and as it is..they are not following history... then might as well love to see Abul Mali hanged upside down and tortured by Jalal and his men... filmy to woh bhi hogaa.. we would love to watch it.. MCB is held captive.. after loosing war.. she should have been help captive.. ? We will love to watch this.. Jalal and HB giving her a piece of mind... Nigar has tried to kill shehenshah..had almost Todarmal killed and yet ..no punishment for her. .. We want a tit-for tat.. reply from Jalal to all his enemies.. Bas..

Yes .. lets hope that we will get to see our teda Jalal back.. in action and lets believe our zee-man after all umeed pe duniyaa kayam hai.. !!



Edited by neeshaa16 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas


Thanks for responding. I remember the post a few days back when you gave a vivid description of how you called the ZEE office, pretending to be child who was going to miss the coming few episodes. Then that ZEE wallah gave you some info which you thought were spoilers. You then built your entire case on the ZEE wallah's utterings.

I think we need to understand that these low paid front end executives of ZEE, have no idea what is going on in the serials. They are asked to parrot a certain line, by their executives and they do that with aplomb. Trusting anything they say is a waste of time.

As for the plummeting of the mood, my mood is fine and so is the mood of many others in this forum. Of course, I realize that are some who have certain view of Akbar which does not agree with what is shown in the serial. But, they are a vociferous minority and I would request you not to imagine that their views reflect the views of this forum.

As I said in my earlier post, one needs to acknowledge that this is a serial by Ekta, inconsistencies will abound, but if you focus on the performances, there is much to enjoy.

A post was made yesterday where it was claimed that the opinion of those on Facebook or Twitter was drastically different to those of some on this forum. I checked it out, indeed it is true, the people on Facebook are loving this track.


Donjas, you are judging the Zee Response Team by a layman's point of view of them. But I have brands that I work with and for who advertise on these serials. So I know how much information and what kind of info is given to these response teams that are very important feedback sources for the channel on viewer feedback. So when I talk to them, I don't discount them outright as lowly paid workers with a parrot line to utter ...for I know what they are being used for by the channel and what they may or may not know.
Again if you check my post on the day I spoke to the Zee wallah I did not "build my entire case" as it were on his utterings. I was just checking if there may be veracity in his words by seeing how much of what we have seen so far matches his words and what doesn't. I don't think I would be as silly as to build a case on what they say.We always have to see whether the things people say match with what we have seen so far or not and then decide how much we want to believe them or not.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gem12

Mansi Episode was neither good nor bad...I am not here to give my analysis today...once again sorry if I hurt anyone...I really feel bad mansi people are bashing jo and jalal for no reason..many are not ready to see or accept wat is shown on tv...people wanted to see a jalal who kill others with no mercy...and wanted him to kill abumali and shenu.. agree cv's made a blunder by showing jalal as captive and tortured by abumali..but lets see the whole track and then decide...and come to conlucison..

its just that we cannot see abumali torturing Jalal...and Jodha dialogues...Many feel that Jo's dialogues were too filmy..but according to me its not filmy...they both are soul mates..if something happens to jalal then jo wont be able to live with out him..both cant not live with out each other..they cannot withstand others pain...I feel pity and sad to see the forum members who says Jo's dialogues were too filmy ..agar yahi dialogues jalal kehta to jalal ka pyar..but since it was said by Jo it looked filmy...and Jo is the cause for what ever happened till date..jalal got caught by shenu and abumali bash Jo...everything people find reasons to bash jo ...they both are soul mates..y people are not understanding this fact

Coming to Akbar he was weak even In real life also wen it comes to relations...he had forgiven abumali many times ... He forgave MC who tried to kill him many times.. MC was killed by abumali...MC killed her own vazir beg... fact is that power made one to kill thr own... abumali was hanged by hakim mirza..sharif tried to kill jalal and went against him..he was forgiven thrice...the fourth time jalal asked bakshi to decide..it was bakshi who ordered to kill him ... MA tried to kill jalal..she was never loyal to akbar...after knowing she was the reason behind him to remain childless and she tried many conspiracies against him still he did not punish her..he just took away all her powers and kept under nazar bandh and he tried all possible ways to bring her back from her death bed...akbar killed adham with no mercy coz he killed atga...apart from this he never punished anyone..he was weak wen it comes to relations..he valued relationships in a thought that they may change for good ..but no... he did forgive bairam khan who did bagawat against him...no one were loyal to him except HB,salima and atga and rajvanshi's...this itself shows he was weak wen it comes to relationships.. he was a ruthless emperor in capturing kingdoms and in wars... but wen it comes to relationships he was weak from the day one..wen history itself proves this who are we to expect him to be ruthless wen it comes to relations..ekta is showing nothing wrong..this show is not about akbar the great how he captured kingdoms and wars..this show is about JA..how thr love over come all these problems..how they stood with each other and fought with enemies...this show is just to see emotional side of jalal.. and his emotions..in real life maansigh and jalal had a fight in dek and guess its fist fight..no one had the guts to face jalal..this shows his humbleness..this show is just to show emotional side of jalal...

I am not sure and I don't no in real if akbar was ever caught and taken as captive or not..lets not come to conclusion before watching the end of this war track..who knows may be jalal's plan to make shenu realize her mistake...no one had the guts to fight against jalal..but people wanted to see jalal doing herogiri and save everyone..wat wrong wen ladies trying to protect themselves in the absenece of him..thats wat jo and harem ladies are doing..just trying to protect themselves from abumali and his gang...for sure todarmal and maansing il help jalal or jalal he il escape... I still believe thr is something which we are not able to see and connec which we il get to no in the upcoming episodes..whether its jalal's master mind or foolishness... only upcoming episodes will give us hint...even in real life bagwan das and maansingh saved jalal many times..Jodha almost saved jalal twice... jodha infact saved salim from tiger attack ...this shows her bravery and fighting skills..wen history says that jalal was saved by rajvanshi's manytimes y people in this forum resist to accept the fact... though he may be a grt warrior but wen it comes to relationships he is and was weak..thats y abumali and shenu cheated him and took him as thr captive...they very well knows that they cannot win against jalal in war...so they backstabbed him.. people are thinking that jalal should kill shenu or should not be forgiven...wen inspite of knowing that abumali and his relatives tried to kill him still he forgave them..here shenu is brainwashed by abumali and MC...and more over she was brought up in a thought that jalal was the one behind this in that case any tom dick and harry will behave like this only..wen she gets to know the truth she il change ... life is not about taking revenge and killing or punishing others...its about forgiving others and to move on...be it god or any religion says this only... we always prays to god forgive us our trespasses,: as we forgive
those who trespass against us..wen he forgives his own one we call him foolishness or he is bumb...and blame Jo for everything and calls them mahaan.. people are having high expectations and not ready to accept anything shown out of thr expectations... agar akbar real life main sab ko maarta hi chala gaya to uski realtions ki naam main koi bhi zinda nahi hota.. hakim made akbar's life hell always went against him ..still he did not punish him... hakim died coz of his addicition to alcohol..zindagi main sab ko punish karte hi chale to humare saath chalne ke liye uar kehne ke liye ek bhi relation nahi hogi..this is life..just learn from mistakes and to move to...today I am not in a mood to write or analyse about yesterday's epi..just felt sick people bashing jo and jalal... pehle picture ki climax to dekne to do phir decide karenge..i no mansi many il argue or disagree with me..but just wanted to give my thought..i like both jodha and jalal..they are the usp of this show..



nice post Gem. Honestly I never want to see the Brutal Akbar either. Rashmi had mentioned her MIL is attending some lecture where they Portray Akbar as the villain. Real history mein kuch bhi ho, I think I like to see this Akbar expect could not watch him being tortured.
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