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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Nice take Mansi 👏👏 .. loved the way u did indepth analysis of every scene and about Mirza hakim too who can swing anyway because of the fact that Maha chuchak is his mother .. so yup interesting prediction theree 👍🏼


Mirza Hakim is showing his loyalty and wants to b part of this battle but somewhere something looks fishy to me ... He was betrayed in the past too when Shivani ran away with her lover , that time too he remained loyal to Jalal , this time Jalal will battle it out with Maha chuchak and even now Mirza is loyal to Jalal ... Its like too good to b true na .. if he is indeed loyal to Jalal , then hats off but if he does betray here , he will definitely hv his strong reasons for it 🤔 .. Lets see which way CVs go ..

I liked the fact that Hamida had her final word with Jalal and made him realise why he should go for this battle and fight out Maha chuchak who is the main mastermind behind Shehnaz because Shehnaz is a mere pawn being used ... SO hopefully Jalal will even rescue Shehnaz from Maha chuchak's trap 🤔

The way Jalal and co r getting ready for the way with all the plannings , it does look like a major war about to happen where Maha chuchak with her huge batallion holds the advantage for now but on other side they gonna face Akbar the great after all 😎

Jalal's talk to the ladies about their safety during the war was a nice scene and also loved the way Jodha sings victory prayer for Jalal while doing his aarti .. nice scenes there just what u need before the big battle 👍🏼

Amidst all this I wonder how Jodha's pregnency will b interconnected and how will Ruqaiyya react .. will she again go back to square one and try to harm the baby but then its Jalal's baby too , so I hope Ruqaiyya sees it from that angle 🤔 .. Also why do I feel Jodha might either hv miscarriage or she might give birth to two twins who might eventually die and then at a later stage with God's grace Salim's birth might happen .. thats what history said na 🤔 .. New Montage shows peace , so it means Jalal might win the war and happy times and celebrations mayb ahead ..

Jyoti, lovely points you have made. But see the one issue that is vexing me out of curiosity is what will maham do with Chand begum? Will she take her also with the other ladies to the battlefield in disguise? And if so what will this Chand begum do? If as you say they take Shehnaaz as prisoner and do not kill her (which seem to be the case since some spoiler pictures of Shehnaaz with tansen have come) then that could be the moment of bhandaphod if Chand begum shows that she was not mad after all and she tells Shehnaaz that maham was the one who kept her captive and not Jalal? That would I suppose make Shehnaaz declare that there should not be any more war but will Abul mali and Mahchuchak agree? I think what this Maham does with this Chand Begum when she is taking other ladies to the battlefield will begin this whole downfall of Maham?
As regards hakim Mirza, someone has said that he becomes negative only much later after his mother dies so maybe for now he will be positive.
I think Ruq may initially help Jodha after knowing she is pregnant (maybe insist she should not fight the war and Ruq will fight instead)? But later when she sees that Jalal is truly pampering Jodha she may turn negative. Its true the twins died one month after they were born but I am wondering if Ekta will show it as some miscarriage caused by Ruq whereby Jalal stops talking to Ruq for many years (as per historical angle, there is some prediction that Jalal stops all relationship and talks with Ruq for years and years).
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

Thank you for the nice analysis. It was a nice episode. Regarding the pregnancy, my fear is that the CV's have used the fake pregnancy and miscarriage track so many times, that now when it happens with Jodha's first few children, viewers are going to be irritated and angry.


But that has to be shown because it is a fundamental part of the Akbar story, the heartbreak of a Jalal and his wife, the desperation that leads Jalal on treacherous trek on bare feet to pay homage to Salim Chisti. All this makes for riveting drama and it has a historical basis of why Salim is so special and why he was spoilt.

Donjas, I heard some "inside info" that the Ekta team are going to show only the twins and their death one month after being born and then they are going directly to Salim's birth (and they are not going to show all the many in between miscarriages). Hope that's true!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi mansi,

Great review!

As much as I have heard about hakim mirza, I find it hard to digest his goody goody image. If he really stays loyal to Jalal in the war, then I will not trust the CVs again!

He may either be acting now or may be co-opted by his mother later to reveal inside info of Jalal and co.
Maybe man singh may learn his reality in this war.

Btw where is man singh? MIA? He should have been one of the major supporters of Jalal now.

The harem going with the army is a good decision and also how it usually happened. I have heard how the harem travelled with Akbar to campaigns in gujarat and bengal. And Jodha anyway was like Akbar's shadow. So how can she not go with him? :)
Pregnancy or no preg. :)

She had apparently travelled with Akbar when heavily pregnant with animal. This war track is
Going to be romantic and exciting. :) anything away from the agra palace!

I don't have the same level of faith as u in ruq. She may not harm the baby but I doubt she will be protective or friendly with Jodha. She is not the kind to be grateful to anyone for anything.

Maham being given charge of harem is interesting. She may be able to carry chand Begum with her. But there may be something more to this. We will have to wait and watch.

Wonder why Adham Khan is suddenly scared of war? He used to be a war loving guy. And his hatred for Jalal is nothing new.

Atga and Adham seem to have buried the hatchet and forgotten the embezzlement issue!

SD seems to have got over his lust for Jodha quietly. When is BB going to deliver?

Where is shivani and poor girl, when will she get married? :(
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi everyone,

I don't know about u guys, but I definitely miss Abhay and his expert comments on the war :(

I hope his exams get over soon and we get to hear juicy tidbits about the various colorful characters in the war :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

hi mansi,

Great review!

As much as I have heard about hakim mirza, I find it hard to digest his goody goody image. If he really stays loyal to Jalal in the war, then I will not trust the CVs again!

He may either be acting now or may be co-opted by his mother later to reveal inside info of Jalal and co.
Maybe man singh may learn his reality in this war.

Btw where is man singh? MIA? He should have been one of the major supporters of Jalal now.

The harem going with the army is a good decision and also how it usually happened. I have heard how the harem travelled with Akbar to campaigns in gujarat and bengal. And Jodha anyway was like Akbar's shadow. So how can she not go with him? :)
Pregnancy or no preg. :)

She had apparently travelled with Akbar when heavily pregnant with animal. This war track is
Going to be romantic and exciting. :) anything away from the agra palace!

I don't have the same level of faith as u in ruq. She may not harm the baby but I doubt she will be protective or friendly with Jodha. She is not the kind to be grateful to anyone for anything.

Maham being given charge of harem is interesting. She may be able to carry chand Begum with her. But there may be something more to this. We will have to wait and watch.

Wonder why Adham Khan is suddenly scared of war? He used to be a war loving guy. And his hatred for Jalal is nothing new.

Atga and Adham seem to have buried the hatchet and forgotten the embezzlement issue!

SD seems to have got over his lust for Jodha quietly. When is BB going to deliver?

Where is shivani and poor girl, when will she get married? :(

Radhika, the last time we saw Shivani (when Tejwant made that big sikka) she was already shown as married ... with sindoor, mangalsutra and that huge nose ring. I think the Creatives have shelved that idea of Jalal giving her a big shaadi and instead will say she and Tejwant had a mandir shaadi!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76
Nice analysis mansi 😃 good episode with preparations for war n can see old jalal n jodha
1) loved last shastra puja part of akdha pari expressions were too Gud she proudly sings for Jallu dng pooja n keeping Tilak for him the way she sang made me remember old fiery Rajput princess jodha
2) loved jalal wen he raises sword n old Jallu is back loved his idea n concern of taking harem along with him but he gave Maham it's responsibility loved jalal n his co planning for war...
3) I dint see Shenu chuchak scene ff it... How cme shenu reached Kabul so fast any thing can happen in JA.. Liked Mirza support for Jallu n Mughal sultanat hope he stays positive for smetime...
Precap is awesme much awaited news to Mughal sultanat n also viewers Jo is pregnant
I think Jo may go to war but doesn't involve in it til last n she hides preg matter from Jallu...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

hi everyone,

I don't know about u guys, but I definitely miss Abhay and his expert comments on the war :(

I hope his exams get over soon and we get to hear juicy tidbits about the various colorful characters in the war :)


This forum does not seem alive without Abhay, he truly is the life of this forum.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#78
NIce Analysis,
I really wanted JOdha to take part in war fighting and then get Preggie.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas


This forum does not seem alive without Abhay, he truly is the life of this forum.

who doesn't miss him?😭😭
everything so pheeka now a days😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

who doesn't miss him?😭😭
everything so pheeka now a days😭



I agree with you all. Abhay's comment give such an occasion and importance to every episode.
We realize what happened, how it might be shown here, the roles of all important characters.

Abhay best of luck for exam and come back soon. JA forum is so boring without you.

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