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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi glad to see you "back" fully fit 😆

I could not watch episode on first telecast (caught in bits) and watched on repeat at 11. Before that I read some comments on forum about good episode, so had higher expectations maybe and I did not enjoy the episode.

Please allow me some venting.

I don't understand why they have suddenly turned Jalal Jodha relationship so platonic! Is this how newly in love, just had SR couple is supposed to behave?! When even Ruk pregnant news could not keep them apart - why are they showing us Jalal and Jodha apart all the time.

It is as if the jealousy from Jodha and their passion was only for SR, to tell us viewers that they finally admitted to love and had SR. Ok now they can go back to being platonic cos that one SR is enough for Jodha to get pregnant!

Maybe they want to show us Jalal Jodha love is so PURE that this bit of SR nonsense out of the way not they are above all the physicality of it!

We are not dumb viewers nor do we want to see SR elaborate - why could they not simply and logically show Jalal Jodha spend nights together, wake up together? Jalal just draw the curtains with a naughty smile at Jodha?

What they are showing them behaving it comes across as so unrealistic!
They seem budhhe to me! Talking about baby all the time, the second topic they talk about is Ruk!

Could Jalal not have told Jodha he is feeling low, to be with him. Jalal could as easily have woken up in Jodha's hojara from the dream or Jodha woken up in his hojara by Jalal telling her he had a dream he has to share with her. That would have told us they spent the night together!

Why not be matter of fact about it, when they are so much in love?

Why are they turning Jodha this way??? Why is Jodha so much into seeing a goodness in Ruk that even Ruk would be ashamed to admit???

Why is Jodha bent on telling Jalal how Ruk is justified! How Ruk should have been in DEK!

Why is Jalal who KNOWS Ruk thinking that Ruk is not there cos she is feeling ASHAMED!!!!!!!!! Really Jalal!

What was the nonsense scene about Ruk stepping on Kanha's mala about? I did not get that 😕

I find Shehnaz UTTERLY BORING - the character the fake childish hee hee and even the vendetta.

It is amusing that everybody thinks that ruling Mughal empire they just need to get Jalal out of the way - and everything else they will manage!

I honestly don't care about Shehnaz - my prediction about this is - AFTER Jalal learns that she is his sister and the entire Delhi takht thing comes out in the open - that CB might regain her senses and later say Shehnaz is NOT her daughter. That is why maybe she felt no connection in surang when Shehnaz called her Ammijaan. I think CB might get the bandi who raised Shehnaz quizzed - maybe some birth mark or something on Shehnaz that is missing and it might turn out that Shehnaz is bandi's daughter. So the Delhi takht handover to Shehnaz won't happen.

Why are they showing Jodha so supplicant to Ruk? After seeing first hand what Ruk is capable of? Why is Jodha not considering how hurt Jalal will be? It seems to Jodha - Jalal's only hurt is about the baby - not how Ruk backstabbed him?

Why is Jalal NOT thinking about Ruk - why has he not wondered IF HE HAD NOT FOUND OUT what else Ruk would have done?
Was Ruk planning to pass off someone's child as his later? Isn't that high treason?
What about how Ruk passed the expert Hakima test?
What about the poisoned bandi - does Jalal think that someone actually tried to poison Ruk?

I don't want to see Jodha pregnant so soon - Jalal will be so happy he will instantly forget every nasty thing Ruk did and go back to forehead kisses and chess.

Are the CVs on some nasty track? They made Jodha give Jalal the kasam to pardon Ruk so that when later Ruk does Jodha's MC - everybody can say tut tut it is all Jodha's fault! Cos see POOR Ruk if she was punished by Jalal - Ruk would never have done this. So all of this is Jodha's fault! See CVs love Ruk too much.

I think the CVs have turned Jodha into this doormat sacrificial - please understand poor Ruk thing and Jalal into this unthinking waris obsessed - so that CVs can give a GLORIOUS SEND-OFF from Agra to MA.

They want MA to have a BLASTING scene where MA maybe will question Jalal about his impartiality, how he hid Ruk's truth, how he did not punish her. MA might then blast Jodha for making him do it. MA might then tell everything Ruk did AND JUSTIFY it saying Jalal drove Ruk to this by his ignoring Ruk.

So all the vamps and villains in Agra will snicker and enjoy this and Jalal and Jodha can look foolish.

See the CVs don't care how they butcher Jodha and Jalal characters as long as their "REAL JAANS" are given justice to!

Super post, Maddy! When yoyu rave and rant and vent you make fabulous posts! But seriously I didn't like the way the Creatives put words in Rahim's mouth that he wants to see Jodha's baby! There is no romance whatsoever between Jo-Ja and here they make Rahim speak dialogues above his age just to act as if there is so much coochey-coo between Jodha and Jalal. What was the meaning of doing this?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: tamy267

glad to hear u r fine Mansi.😊

I agree with u..I am actually not getting how things will be handled by CVs...too many tracks and too many confusion...😕
yesterday's episode had enough hints of Jodha getting pregnant soon..but then we all had spoilers of Jodha-Shehnaz battle, Mahachuchak's entry...dont know admidst all this how will she be shown preggy..🤔 and how will she fight Shehnaz? probably the fight sequence will occur first, then pregnancy news will come.🤔
do u think Ruqu can try to miscarry? once she slapped Hoshiyar at the very mention of it...now how can she turn so evil? but it seems she will do something cruel to make Jalal cut his ties off and this time Jodha too cant stop him...lets see what happens..I feel Maham may try to help her in this and later after getting caught she will pull down along with her..but their attempt will fail, Jodha wont have MC.

I loved yesterday's episode..esp. the beginning part and the end...it was veryyy cute. the happiness in Jalal's face worth a million dollar.

All I want one track to end to start the other!! all is looking like a khichdi to me.😕🤔

Exactly yaar, we would so much enjoy these twists and turns if they did few at a time instead of everything happening at the same time in multiple directions! I am bit dazed by all this multifarious plots!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Ash1991

Lovely analysis...
The episode wz quite interesting...loved jalals dream n thn Him sharing with jodha...the baby wz so cute...
Want the current tracks to end soon bt wt I am confused about is that ruk said she will pay off her debt when times cmz..now is this in positive take or negative...
Shenaz as delusional as ever...want at least there wud be sm.action...
Waiting fr the sword fight...I guess frm now shenaz track wud be in full focus as she did say that now its time to cm in open...

If Shehnaaz plans to come in the open then Chand begum is aloso going to come in the open and maham is shaping up to get squarely caught!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -aady-

Yesterday's episode was good, but good in comparison to the other episodes we get!

We have reaches such a state where are best episodes are like yesterdays. The CV's have massacred the 'true love' relationship that Jalal and Jodha are supposedly in. Now we get these random scenes of them having conversation about Rukaiyya once in a while.

All of us thought that after SR, we will got to see a whole new chapter of Akdha's life, with so much more love and respect for each other, but instead we get these sort of episodes, filled with one lollipop akdha scene and scenes of intolerable baseless scenes such as Shehnaaz's!

The worst part is I think we were better off when Jalal and Jodha could not stand each other. I feel that the serial has lost its charm in all the agitation to top the TRP charts.

I just hope they fall back right in track, and start showing us a serial which we all will appreciate again! What is true love, true love is when nothing can keep you apart, where all that you see and want to see is your partner being happy. In a way, I feel they should rather postpone Jodha's pregnancy, because then it will become all about the kid and no more about the love story.

What is the purpose of all the episodes we saw last week if actually on the ground there is no change? Ruq is forgiven, maham is still on her plots and plans, Chand in in the surang, and Shehnaaz is stll in mad mode. Let's see if this week sees some genuine change or just peripheral progress.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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BEAUTIFUL ANALYSIS AS ALWAYZ DEAR..😃
lets wait n wqatch where these sanket wil finally land us at😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi, Mansi,

You Back, & Your Back is , Back, but Both Back has important role in Life,😆 😆


Episode was good, Shen;;;;;;;;;;;;;;is taking high dreams, she wants to kill jalal, & Become, Mallika,sometime dreaming is good for our health.

Jalal dreamed, becoming father,😉 😉 Shenu, dreamed, becoming, Mallika,

but shenu, dream was horror, & jalal dream was Sweet,😆 😆

so jalal dreamed, Morning hours, So sun-shine rays meaning, i think, jodha is going to be pregnant soon.😉, (Child was cute, in Craddle,😃 )

Liked, jalal wants to share, this dream, with Jodha,

First, jodha was doing Pooza, so poistive sign, of pregnancy.

Jodha hear this news after pooza, so pregnancy will be complete.

(Couple shareed, beautiful movements, feeling was coming, internal happiness,👏 👏)


Soul talk was amazing, jalal first time Called jodhu MUZ,😃, jodha was happy, because, jalal was happy, after many times;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

so here imp is this, jodha feels, happy, when jalal is happy, when jalal feels pain she feels pain;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so strong HEART-Connection has developed.

(when we listen music, we vibrate from far, same happening here, Couple is connecting, OUTER+INNER, & wants to share little little talks.)

(My song, land;;;;;;;;;;;;;;)

Humm tumm kuch aur benege, THoda hamara, thoda tumahara, Aeega phir see Bhapan Hamara,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Jeewen kee;;;;😆 😆

Couple is fully in love,


Naa naa karte, payar mee kar gayi gayi, tunee kiya kya yar mee too mar gayi.😆


DEK, scene.


Scene was mind blowing, Jalal heartly accepting, Others, relgions,

Now he distributed, Two relgions, Combind Coin, in Awam, using purpose.⭐️ ⭐️

(so couple is connecting outer of kingdom, Now jalal achieved one more ladder of Good ness, which will bring him, Appriciation+Respect, Other relgion people will see King now, Humble, eyes;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Now conectvity, will increase, to other people, Jalal, HIGHT WILL INCREASE, in Kingdom👏 👏


As a husband, as a king, He completed, A MILD STONE, yesterday,

tough for jalal, but Noticeable thing is that, HE aware this point, some people is disagree.

but , HE OWN BURNT A GOOD LIGHT, WHICH WILL COME HAPPIER+BLESSINGFULL,
Movements in life.


(This is not a simple talk, ALLHA & GOD, Differnce is ending, Tough is 21 cen, But He DID
in 16 cen )👏 👏(How much learnt couple learnt from eachother)



Maham knows how to know DIL KEE BATT, from Ruk so she used teda method,

or Ruk we know, all secreat will opened😆 😆, After knowing, Maham realeased, TURRAP KAA EKKA;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;you forgiven cause of jodha.,😆

Ruk temperament High😆, now she is ready to blast jodha.

(one thing noticed;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Ruk Broke GARLAND)

Is hinting, Flowers means Kids BROKEN GARLAND, Means Kids not survive,?

second, Is Ruk will Harm Child?😕 😕


But jodha point out, you misused, Many emotions, But i have no hope for ruk,😡 😡

Shen;;;;;;;;;;az Walking ANDHARI RAT😆 😆(Dark, night ),

Have a fun, is she afraids Day time walking.😆 😆,

But she is saying, now time for coming Front,lets see what happens,😉

Last scene amazing,

Rahim wants, Little Kaanha, From Jodha, But why Rahim, saying this ?

& wants to know, is jalal is Pati of Jodha,😉 😉,

So jalal is flirting jodha, & preparing, ready for MUZ,😆 😆,

So mix, Tracks on Floor,

(Kora kagach thaa mann mera, Likh daya Namm iss par tera.)

But we want to see some meaningful tracks, Child track why so soon,

Cv can show, some Akdha tracks, One year finished, we are standing, Dreaming jone,
Love +meaningful tracks will be come, or we are getting;

F P track, we are becoming, Fool pee fool😆 😆

Now jodha, Pregnancey track.

Precap, intersting,

Jodha used her brain, Now Coin will Rotate, i think, Main outer wall of Kingdom,
so others people will think, ( Now No relgious boundery in kingdom)

i Recalled, my school prayer;

(Allha, God, Partama, Aur Ram Jee, Ekk Hee Shakti Kee Bahut Sarre NAMM JEE )




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Forgot to add one thing I don't why bt oddly the last scene of Friday m 1 scene of yesterday out of place...if shenaz openly dreaming about killing jalal is deleted thn everything makes better sense cz the cloths jalal.wz wearing when he wz sleeping were the ones he wore whn ruks truth came out so thurs, Fri n jalals dream is one day n shenaz stabbing jalal doesn't fit in all this...as in DEK jalal days smthng like cz of a beautiful dream he has cm out of his sadness...so that is the next day..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi about too many plots on - the serial was so much engrossing when they handled one track at a time. This has become a khichadi and they do not want to show satisfactory ending to tracks. What is this Ruk faking track if she gets away scot free!!!!

This is what I wrote on my Sunday thread copying here

It seems like their tracks are like "a getting to be like longer and longer train journey where we can't wait it for to end - where some passing by scenery makes us forget how fed up with the journey we are - we arrive at the station with an expectation of a beautiful place and some pleasant memories only to be told ok you looked out of the station at the scenery - board this new train which is going to take even longer to take you to your destination! All the viewers waiting for FINALLY SOME PAYBACK TO Ruk got was a Babaji ka Thallu!!!!"


All these tracks were engrossing and ended on super note,
The Sukanya marriage Amer track
The Jodha suicide atttempt
The Ajmer visit
Jodha falsely accused pregnant track

Jalal at first doubted Jodha and she him, when Jalal felt Jodha is not lying he asked SB and then set out to find the truth. It was so engrossing. The problem is at the end of it Jalal punished BB and later SD.

CVs are crazily in love with their "jaans" MA & Ruk. How can they let anything happen to them! So their tracks will not end satisfactorily!

That is why Jalal did not bother to ask MA when she was in rant that she did many plots to drive him apart from Jodha - what all MA did? If he had asked then so many tracks would have closed, the dhakka one also.

Do CVs think that now that SR has happened they need to show Jalal know about the dhakka letter truth? The track that tortured us, if dhakka had not happened then Ben might not have happened and then Jodha would not have had to drink poison - the CVs think Jalal does not need to know Jodha learnt is enough! End of dhakka track so tamely.

Here if Jalal wondered all the intelligent stuff like -

"what if he had not caught Ruk? - how far would she have gone? Would Ruk have passed some bandi's child as his own?"

Why Ruk made Jodha do all her teemardari?

What about the bandi poisoned? Is Jalal under the impression that someone tried to poison Ruk cos she was pregnant - in that case isn't this very serious matter?

Jalal tells Jodha no matter what he will find CB? The lady who vanished even before his birth is MORE important to Jalal then finding out the truths that concern the safety of his family!!!!!

Why don't they show more DEK scenes? More Todarmal?
Todarmal found out more in 1st day than he seems to be doing now?!

What a silly thing to say in DEK - Jalal tells he had happy dream so mood changed and going to share it with awam!!! Really!!!

Is this something a Shehenshah would say?! Why couldn't Jalal simply say after the unhappiness of recent past he wants to think about positive stuff and talk about winning the war!

The WRITERS AND DIALOGUE WRITERS are doing injustice to JA.

The leads and support casts are fine. What can they do if they are made to mouth inane stuff.

The chemistry they displayed does not go away, it is the scenes that are letting them down, the treatment.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16


Good Questions Maddy.but I dont think CVS have answers for our logical questions.. they want to show something illogical.. nonsense.. Jalal and Jo ..their rey cells are lost.Jalal just doing Baby jaap.. has no other work?? He does not give it a thought how Ruks passed the Hakim test?? Even Jodha doesn't for that matter.. and yes htier relationship is turning more platonic.. EvenI dont understand why they ant show them sleeping in one room or wakin up next to each other.. Only God knows.. I am going to ask this to zee ..if they pick up my call today..Maddy.even I m getting frustrated with Shehnaaz track..very boring..



Really! This couple had 10 kids! CVs are acting to prude and have them sleeping in their own hojaras and act all coy!

I hate when children are given grown up dialogues to mouth.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi..! Glad and happy to see ur back..! 🤗
Beautiful analysis..! 👍🏼
I loved yesterday episode ..! I could find a bit progress in each element..! 😊
Loved Jallu's beautiful dream , this dream symbolizing her pregnancy..I loved his dream who gives us positive mode in which Jo holding a baby..!
And his excitement , emotional ride in sharing with his lovable wife looks amazing..! Loved it to the core..! So far we couldn't get a solid romance after SR , its directly leading to pregnancy track..wake up cv's..! 😆 😕
Loved DEK scenes..The way he recalled his beautiful dream & his great victory against heimu so to make it even more special , its lovely idea to introduce engraved religion gold coins..Loved Jallu's super duper dialogues among religions...I loved his eyes locking on her gestures, he couldn't take off his eyes from her.
Is JoJa knew that these two are surrounded by dangerous people..They are in a casual walk , again they had a talk on Ruku's fake fiasco overheard by RK..But thanks to RK , unless how they will forward this story..?😆 Finally Maham back in action in screwing up Ruku..😃
Jodha and Rukaiya..! 😳
How can I express this equation b/w these two queens..? While all way Ruku rushed to share his arrogant way of attitude , oops..!! she dared to stamp her foot on garland , but this may be a bad sign for Jodha..And I don't want Jodha to take Ruku as easy shade..I loved her way of answering towards Ruku. it looks more dignified even i appreciate her in giving space , but no where Jodha doesn't need to prove crediting her own favours.I couldn't see Jodha as a player against Ruku , ? Still here it was Ruku's lack of behaviour , intolerable , arrogant attitude stays with her..Where all these leading to..?
Jodha and Rahim..!❤️
It was a cute & adorable scene b/w trios..Just loved it to the core..! ❤️
Hope cv's will try to give us good episodes..Now it looks clumsy , wish they will try to close each loop rather than opening too many loops.😔

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