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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Donjas

Nice to see you in action again. I am glad you are feeling better now.


As for the episode, there are many threads to follow as you so clearly enunciated. The Jalal-Jodha scenes were romantic and portentous of momentous developments. I still don't get it how Maham is going to expose Ruq, everything she has is hearsay and Jalal has already forgiven a lot for Ruq, why will a slight extra make any difference.

As for Shenaz, she has been hogging a lot of screen space of late, for me it means the closure of that track is near. Another bit of news is the impending sword fight between Shenaz and Jodha. Very interesting idea, something new for viewers.

Hope to see a grand slam post tomorrow on JA's anniversary, recounting the most memorable vignettes in your view in the JA journey.

I'll be doing just an episode based post as usual. We'll have to do an anniversary look back some time in the weekend!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

Good to read that you are back with a bang and that your back is now fine. Yesterdays episode was indeed as you have very correctly written a sanketful episode .. Jalal has a beautiful dream and shares it with Jodha and tells her that she will be Maruim-Zamani but why don't they remember Salim Chisti's prophecy .. He had clearly toold that Jodha was indeed going to be Maruim-Zamani.. Why doesn't Jalal or Jodha recollect any of this is what I fail to understand or the CVS have totally forgotten about it??

One more confusion ..if they show Jodha pregnant so soon, how can she be shown fighting against Shehnaaz (as per the latest spoilers) where she is also going to perform some stunts ..it seems .. if she is pregnant then how can she perform such stunts .. not possible therefore ..all this is very confusing.. Jalal can't ask JO to fight in this condition..
Secondly , one more confusing thing about Ruquaiya.. Whether she says sarcastically that she will help Jodha or she really means it.. I think she will help JOdha in exposing Mahms role in CHnad begum mystery .. somehow..and I think this will lead to Maham exposing Ruqaiya .. Becoz I feel Maham is a lady who will abide by her words..she will not betray Ruks just like that.. Ruks will definitely annoy her to this extent that she exposes her publicly.


Mansi .. wonderful take as usual and pl do call Zee and tell them that they are leaving all of us highly unsatisfied and confused by mixing all tracks together, we are not able to enjoy anything.. And yes plz to add some romance between the leads.. atleast they can show that now they are staying like husband wife and sleeping in the same room.. don't show SR like scenes but some proximity can be shown.. and yes plz also ask them how many vamps are they gong to add.. The old ones are still going strong with no sign of anyones exit .. how can they include new vamps.. ??
I have many points to ask Mansi but this zee operators dont pick up our calls.. I will also try again today.. and keep you updated..

That's my point exactly. With this style of showing bits and pieces of everything every day I am not able to enjoy any track properly!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: history_geek


Hi Mansi,
Have some time now.
So, i am writing down what i feel as per the epi y'day. Just my free flow of feelings today..
It was not like the usual Monday fillers. It was good. I mean more than average.

It all started with Jalal and Shehnaaz scene. She was dreaming of eliminating him, looking at the 'khanjar'. Jalal placated it, asked her to return back. And as usual she pretended to be lost in her dreams. Lol. ----- This sets the scene for a future confrontation. I guess soon Shehnaaz may unleash her wicked plans. The episode also ended on a similar note. Did we hear, Shehnaaz saying that 'Now, it's the time to come OUT OPENLY.' What she meant.?. Has she done some preparations..?.

The next scene about Jalal's dream was fine. It was inserted to show how badly Jalal longs for a child. Those days, at the age of 20-21, they were supposed to have kids, but here Jalal is the unfortunate one. The nice part was that he saw Jodha was the kid in the cot. And he comes back running to her to tell him that YOU WILL MARIAM ZAMANI JODHA BEGUM and I AM vERY HAPPY now. So, all of us who were unhappy about Jalal fogetting Salim Chisti Baba's prophesy can calm down. Lol. As jalal has again remembered this, though by a dream. Lol. And this was further solidified by Jodha saying dreams seen in morning are true, as per her dream of marrying him.
Equally good was the feeling that - She told him, i 'Dread' marrying you as i had dreamed it sometime bfore the marriage, but NOT NOW. :) her thinking has changes a lot for Jalal.

The DEK setting was super. Jalal chose a memorable ocassion to launch coins. Everyone was stunned at this sudden announcement. what we NEED TO NOTICE IS THAT THE MAULVIS AND ADHAM/SHARIF WERE NOT HAPPY HEARING THIS. ALL this will end up in some revolt.

After that the talk between. JJ will walking in the palace was symbolic for the reason Jodha praised Jalal and did NOT TAKE ANY CREDIT for launching the coins. She was awestruck at the sheer magnanimity of his thinking. :) this is how relationships work. You need to support your partner in the good deeds and also try to ADVICE HIM/HER when he/she needs wise counsel. I just love Jodha appreciating Jalal.

I have no interest in discussing the Ruqs -MA scene. It was a comedy. Instead of acknowledging a person, she tried to show...!!!!!

Jodha and Ruqs scene was again a sort of blooper, but for one reason, she was ABLE TO SHUT UP RUQS by mentioning that she understands the IMPORTANCE OF JALAL IN RUQS LIFE, and hence she stopped Jalal. i feel RUQS SHOULD THINK ON THIS MATTER. THIS SCENE BROUGHT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THINKING OF JODHA AND RUQS.

See, i am not supporting Jodha's stance of supporting Ruqs, but only saying she understands the depth of human relations and feelings. And MORE IMPORTANTLY she did all that FOR JALAL NOT FOR RUQS, as per my understanding. HER ACTIONS ARE EXECUTED FOR THE 'HAPPINESS' OF JALAL. She is READY TO GO TO ANY EXTENT FOR JALAL NOW. TOTAL DEVOTION. JALAL HAS ASSUSRED HER THAT SHE WILL REMAIN AN IMPORTANT PART OF HIS LIFE, and she understands it now. I wishh Ruqs also understands Jalal's declaration to her that she will remain his best friend forever. Otherwise, if she does another blunder, only and only she is to be held responsible. Salima knows her place. Jodha also understandS THIS after Jalal's assurance...Just Ruqs needs to stop treating Jalal as his PERSONAL PROPERTY.

THE last scene of Rahim-Jodha-Jalal was funny and something for which i don't have words to describe. It was amazingly nice to see her cornered, as if the ''Teda Man'' asking her bataiye Jodha Begum -- 'Hum aapke hain kaun' ?. Lol. That was total laughter. !!!!!
Waiting how that scene continues today...

Coming to inconsistency or loose execution of tracks, i feel, Shehnaaz+ Chand Begum track will end simultaneously. And, then. MA and Ruqs bhandafood will be on cards. Mahachuchak Begum will play her cards from Agra. She will give political troubles.

Lets see how this unfolds. Future episodes have a lot to deliver.

:)

If your prediction comes right Abhay I will be relieved that there is some pattern to all this excessive track madness. Right now there needs to be clarity on how exactly the tracks will affect one another otherwise its is like some bhelpuri!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

If a promo has come of Mahchuchak you can be guaranteed that her entry will be within one week! That is for sure!


She may enter next week Mansi, but not this week for sure.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: history_geek


Hi Mansi,
Have some time now.
So, i am writing down what i feel as per the epi y'day. Just my free flow of feelings today..
It was not like the usual Monday fillers. It was good. I mean more than average.

It all started with Jalal and Shehnaaz scene. She was dreaming of eliminating him, looking at the 'khanjar'. Jalal placated it, asked her to return back. And as usual she pretended to be lost in her dreams. Lol. ----- This sets the scene for a future confrontation. I guess soon Shehnaaz may unleash her wicked plans. The episode also ended on a similar note. Did we hear, Shehnaaz saying that 'Now, it's the time to come OUT OPENLY.' What she meant.?. Has she done some preparations..?.

The next scene about Jalal's dream was fine. It was inserted to show how badly Jalal longs for a child. Those days, at the age of 20-21, they were supposed to have kids, but here Jalal is the unfortunate one. The nice part was that he saw Jodha was the kid in the cot. And he comes back running to her to tell him that YOU WILL MARIAM ZAMANI JODHA BEGUM and I AM vERY HAPPY now. So, all of us who were unhappy about Jalal fogetting Salim Chisti Baba's prophesy can calm down. Lol. As jalal has again remembered this, though by a dream. Lol. And this was further solidified by Jodha saying dreams seen in morning are true, as per her dream of marrying him.
Equally good was the feeling that - She told him, i 'Dread' marrying you as i had dreamed it sometime bfore the marriage, but NOT NOW. :) her thinking has changes a lot for Jalal.

The DEK setting was super. Jalal chose a memorable ocassion to launch coins. Everyone was stunned at this sudden announcement. what we NEED TO NOTICE IS THAT THE MAULVIS AND ADHAM/SHARIF WERE NOT HAPPY HEARING THIS. ALL this will end up in some revolt.

After that the talk between. JJ will walking in the palace was symbolic for the reason Jodha praised Jalal and did NOT TAKE ANY CREDIT for launching the coins. She was awestruck at the sheer magnanimity of his thinking. :) this is how relationships work. You need to support your partner in the good deeds and also try to ADVICE HIM/HER when he/she needs wise counsel. I just love Jodha appreciating Jalal.

I have no interest in discussing the Ruqs -MA scene. It was a comedy. Instead of acknowledging a person, she tried to show...!!!!!

Jodha and Ruqs scene was again a sort of blooper, but for one reason, she was ABLE TO SHUT UP RUQS by mentioning that she understands the IMPORTANCE OF JALAL IN RUQS LIFE, and hence she stopped Jalal. i feel RUQS SHOULD THINK ON THIS MATTER. THIS SCENE BROUGHT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THINKING OF JODHA AND RUQS.

See, i am not supporting Jodha's stance of supporting Ruqs, but only saying she understands the depth of human relations and feelings. And MORE IMPORTANTLY she did all that FOR JALAL NOT FOR RUQS, as per my understanding. HER ACTIONS ARE EXECUTED FOR THE 'HAPPINESS' OF JALAL. She is READY TO GO TO ANY EXTENT FOR JALAL NOW. TOTAL DEVOTION. JALAL HAS ASSUSRED HER THAT SHE WILL REMAIN AN IMPORTANT PART OF HIS LIFE, and she understands it now. I wishh Ruqs also understands Jalal's declaration to her that she will remain his best friend forever. Otherwise, if she does another blunder, only and only she is to be held responsible. Salima knows her place. Jodha also understandS THIS after Jalal's assurance...Just Ruqs needs to stop treating Jalal as his PERSONAL PROPERTY.

THE last scene of Rahim-Jodha-Jalal was funny and something for which i don't have words to describe. It was amazingly nice to see her cornered, as if the ''Teda Man'' asking her bataiye Jodha Begum -- 'Hum aapke hain kaun' ?. Lol. That was total laughter. !!!!!
Waiting how that scene continues today...

Coming to inconsistency or loose execution of tracks, i feel, Shehnaaz+ Chand Begum track will end simultaneously. And, then. MA and Ruqs bhandafood will be on cards. Mahachuchak Begum will play her cards from Kabul, i guess. She will give political troubles.

Lets see how this unfolds. Future episodes have a lot to deliver.

:)


Lovely take ..Abhay..The HUm aapke Hai kaun dialogue was super duper ..fitted that scene correctly. Yes about Ruks treating Jalal as personal property is so correct.. But Abhay ..did this Nigar.. aka Shehnaaz really exsisted in history??have not read about this.. I dont understand one thing..why are wasting Todarmal's talent .. why not give him aomething fruitful to do? how many days he will take to find out Adhams fraud in financial ghotala.. These parallel tracks are very confusing.. really..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#16
Good to know you are feeling better. Missed your review over the weekend. Loved the review, but cant say the same about episode.
I signed up for a political love story but right now its neither. On political front they are showing half mad Shenaaz, who thinks takht is some kind of toy, jo mere daddy ne pehle mujhe diya tha. She has no exp being a royalty let alone a queen and thinks of doing hukumat...insane! btw can anybody walk into DEK at night and sit on throne!!! Sharif and Aadham would be taking turns sleeping there at night :-)


Jalal introducing new currency coin without any consultation with Todermal, at least Finance minister ko kuch dialog toh milte

On love story front, its just too sugar coated for me. Despite all the feel good episodes, i preferred the ghrina-nafrat phase, at least it had passion and intensity. As they say nothing kills passion like wedding cake! Post SR JO-JA have stared behaving like 50 year olds ( and maybe some 50 years would have a more passionate life than these two). Where is that desperation - to love to hate each other, no nok jhok, no teda jalal and no jungli billi jodha ! Jaane kahan gaye woh din!


Am not able to understand Jalal's stand on Ruk, is he friends with benefits (even benefits like chess ), or friends not on talking terms or friends with an occasional hi hello. Precisely the ambiguity from Jalal that has lead on Ruk to live in a bubble world.

The Maham scene was the highlight for me after the Jalal / Jo scene; Even in Jalal / Jo scene
could have been handled better, Jalal i fell in love with would have been all teasy with Jodha not all Mother-in-lawish with her.

I am so hoping they close Shenu/CB track and i cant stand that girl!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi glad to have you back fit and fine.🤗

I liked Yesterdays episode. Loved Jalal's dream about his and Jodha's baby. But first question in my mind was same as you why is he sleeping alone and not with Jo 😆. Both their happiness about the dream was infectious and it made me happy too...😊

DEK scene and whole idea of coin signifying religious harmony was really nice and well executed.

Maham and ruq scene just showed how dumb ruqs still is. It was so easy for Maham to instigate her and there she marches to Jo's room... I really liked the way Jo stood to her ground. And I don't think we should take ruqs dialog about payback so seriously... I don't think Cvs will show one more miscarriage, if they are planning to do so then I am seriously done with all this.

Shehnaz looks more delusional each passing day, dreaming about takht. I still don't understand how eliminating Jalal will get her the tahkt when Mirza hakim and all are there, also Jalal has many sisters/step sisters I guess.

I think now shehnaaz herself will bring out hers and Chand Begum story in front of all coz she said it is now time to come out in open. Only question is how she will do it... all by herself or will drop some clues for Jo and Jalal to follow.

About the khichadi of the tracks that CVs have done... They should stop showing so many things simultaneously and concentrate on one or two tracks at one time coz longer the track runs viewers will loose the interest.

For new promo, I guess Mahachuchak will just do a guest appearance every now and then but her track will start much later(Don't you remember how many days we were seeing MA in Surang threatening camera, just to eat up the screen space)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: chitterati

Good to know you are feeling better. Missed your review over the weekend. Loved the review, but cant say the same about episode.

I signed up for a political love story but right now its neither. On political front they are showing half mad Shenaaz, who thinks takht is some kind of toy, jo mere daddy ne pehle mujhe diya tha. She has no exp being a royalty let alone a queen and thinks of doing hukumat...insane! btw can anybody walk into DEK at night and sit on throne!!! Sharif and Aadham would be taking turns sleeping there at night :-)


Jalal introducing new currency coin without any consultation with Todermal, at least Finance minister ko kuch dialog toh milte

On love story front, its just too sugar coated for me. Despite all the feel good episodes, i preferred the ghrina-nafrat phase, at least it had passion and intensity. As they say nothing kills passion like wedding cake! Post SR JO-JA have stared behaving like 50 year olds ( and maybe some 50 years would have a more passionate life than these two). Where is that desperation - to love to hate each other, no nok jhok, no teda jalal and no jungli billi jodha ! Jaane kahan gaye woh din!


Am not able to understand Jalal's stand on Ruk, is he friends with benefits (even benefits like chess ), or friends not on talking terms or friends with an occasional hi hello. Precisely the ambiguity from Jalal that has lead on Ruk to live in a bubble world.

The Maham scene was the highlight for me after the Jalal / Jo scene; Even in Jalal / Jo scene
could have been handled better, Jalal i fell in love with would have been all teasy with Jodha not all Mother-in-lawish with her.

I am so hoping they close Shenu/CB track and i cant stand that girl!

I agree with you. maybe the Creatives think that having all these multiple open-ended tracks is adding to the intrigue and mystery but in actuality it is just making every episode feel like a tasteless khichdi!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good take Mansi...and good to see u back in action...

abt yest episode, as u say it was full of sankets... then i feel the story moved forward in multiple directions...

Nigar/Shenu...frankly i haven't come accross any such character ever, but Abhay may tell more abt it... so i leave it to him..

anyway, yest we saw her saying she has to come into open now... get one thing sure... Shenu now knows where CB is... but if she wants her mother back safely, she has to talk to Jalal abt it directly... coz whatever preparations she does, rescuing CB without Jalal's help is just impossible for anybody...so yes, i m expecting Jo to catch Shenu doing something unexpected and question her, and so shenu revealing herself, and challenging Jalal for one to one fight and the winner gets the takht... but Shenu being a woman and that too his elder sister, Jalal will refuse to fight with her and may decide to give up the takht and then Jo might interfere and fight Shenu and defeat her, and thus help Jalal to retain the power to himself... and here Jalal will again forgive Shenu and will promise her to find CB ASAP, when Shenu might tell him abt CB's whereabouts... and hearing that HB might remember whole incident with MA tell Jalal abt it..and then Jalal will save CB and MA will be exposed in kidnapping CB and murdering other begum of Humayun ...

and abt Ruku's words, then i feel it can be ruku who may push Jo to fight with Shenu blaming her for bringing Shenu in their lives... and thus Jo might accept the challenge... and win and thus proves herself once more better than all others , much to Jalal's pride and satisfaction and love...

abt Mahachuchak, then her entry on the show is scheduled for tomorrow... and i think she has never come to agra, but she created enough problems from Kabul itself... Let's see what ekta's CVs decide ...

and now remains our leads... as i said last week, Jo has now earned the place of backbone in Jalal's life... his ultimate support... and so no wonder if her happiness matters him the most...

the coin he issued , was definitely symbolic of both of them coming together and now it's time they bring their respective religions and cultures together, for a peaceful and prosperous kingdom...

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Posted: 11 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: Rasika29

Mansi glad to have you back fit and fine.🤗

I liked Yesterdays episode. Loved Jalal's dream about his and Jodha's baby. But first question in my mind was same as you why is he sleeping alone and not with Jo 😆. Both their happiness about the dream was infectious and it made me happy too...😊

DEK scene and whole idea of coin signifying religious harmony was really nice and well executed.

Maham and ruq scene just showed how dumb ruqs still is. It was so easy for Maham to instigate her and there she marches to Jo's room... I really liked the way Jo stood to her ground. And I don't think we should take ruqs dialog about payback so seriously... I don't think Cvs will show one more miscarriage, if they are planning to do so then I am seriously done with all this.

Shehnaz looks more delusional each passing day, dreaming about takht. I still don't understand how eliminating Jalal will get her the tahkt when Mirza hakim and all are there, also Jalal has many sisters/step sisters I guess.

I think now shehnaaz herself will bring out hers and Chand Begum story in front of all coz she said it is now time to come out in open. Only question is how she will do it... all by herself or will drop some clues for Jo and Jalal to follow.

About the khichadi of the tracks that CVs have done... They should stop showing so many things simultaneously and concentrate on one or two tracks at one time coz longer the track runs viewers will loose the interest.

For new promo, I guess Mahachuchak will just do a guest appearance every now and then but her track will start much later(Don't you remember how many days we were seeing MA in Surang threatening camera, just to eat up the screen space)

No Rasika, I doubt they would have created the Mahchuchak promo unless they were sure of introducing her this week or next. She is sure to make an entry that much I can guarantee. It will not be like the Maham-surang issue. Let's wait and see how it pans out. More confusion, less clarity ...

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