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Posted: 11 years ago
#21
divi, my dear salaam to your positive thread..always brings smile on my face! again ruqlal scene was interesting and well shot..the feeding scene was ok, loved rajat's expressions!..skipped all shenu crap, just cannot stand it!..ruk is guilty..and jalal is hurt..and what dialogue when he said that who is he to punish, god has already punished her...uff!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijisridhar

Very nice Divyam. The episode was kind of a continuation of yesterday as well as your takes.

Am actually loving this subtle, piercing Jalal - his words to Ruqaiyya was as sharp as his sword. šŸ‘šŸ¼

As I predicted yesterday, this Ruqaiyya fiasco does not seem to be over. She is at it again, in the monday's precap, so, her falling from grace totally is imminent shortly. As you also noted, Jalal has forgiven but defenitely not forgotten. Its either, Maham is going to make the khulasa out in the open or Jala himself is gonna find out on monday, how Jodha is being treated by Ruqs. šŸ¤”

Am anticipating a double or triple dhamaka next week. Maham exposure in this Chand begum, Ruqs being cornered and the new villain Mahachuchak entry. Hey, I have the right to dream aint' I šŸ˜†

Viji




Thanks- the last few episodes do seem to have continuity to them- at least emotionally.

Let's see how Ruq's plays out; the more I think of it- Ruqs is the last person who will admit to Jodha that she was wrong and insecure about her. When you view someone as your enemy- you will never admit your mistakes to them.

As Jalal advised her- I hope Ruqs directly goes to Jalal to clear whether he really forgave her or did so just because of Jodha- if that is what is bothering her. That would be smarter than coming up with a stupid plan.

I don't think your dream is unrealistic- I expect a lot of action in the coming weeks.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnirony

wonderful take divya. loved today's episode. honestly, this is the reason why i was upset yesterday when entire blame was given on jalal. even the strongest man in the world needs emotional support, which ruku never understood. today jodha came to feed jalal bcoz she realized tht jalal is hurt. ruku also knows tht jalal will be upset, so she could also have come to jalal. no doubt ruku also cares & loves jalal, but she never understood jalal's emotional needs. i know jalal always said he dont have a heart, but maham understood jalal's emotional needs, she used it for her own sake thts a diff issue. & thts why after jodha came in jalal's life he started getting emotionally connected to her. its not about spending more time with a particular queen, its more about tht emotional support which jalal got from jodha. as a wife ruku wants more attention from jalal agreed, but similarly as a wife she should have gone to him once to see his condition. loved rajat's performance in the jalal-jodha-ruku scene. he didnt showed his rage, but certainly tried to show where exactly ruku went wrong & thts exactly wht i wanted yesterday. i also feel bad for ruku time to time, but my prob is if she feels jalal is ignoring her, she should go & fight with jalal, just like friends do. relationships r 2 sided, so only expecting from jalal is really not done.


P.S.:- shehnaaz how dare u call jalal not a gud bro??? & wht about u??? u tried to kill a small kid.😔




Thanks Shreya! I don't think anyone blamed Jalal fully yesterday either- but it is completely within Jalal's character to take responsibility for what happened and understand his role. I have never seen him shift blame on him.

Yes, Jodha is lovely for understanding he needs that emotional support; Ruqs never recognized that - but that also may be because of her upbringing. I am not sure who was ever their for her emotional support though Jalal was a rock to her

Shehnaaz is a paagal as Maham Anga said ;) Never take her seriously- she never makes sense
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Posted: 11 years ago
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lovely take Di for a lovely episode šŸ‘šŸ‘
Jodha is not realising the depth of hurt ,pain inflicted upon him by his best friend . first wife ...n insist of having dinner n y she said "ishwar k yaad kijye"? i dont understand šŸ˜• (may be she was hungryšŸ˜† ) But it was a nyc scene😳 I lovedthe feeding scene u know y šŸ˜†šŸ˜³..
Coming ruklal scene , Silence is the severest punishment for rukaiyah now i feel satisfied y he didnt yell at her ..it wont work on her šŸ‘šŸ¼

N at the end wat was that ?? stabbing over n over again 🤢
precap was predictable and utter boring to keep us speculating from A-ZšŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome analysis Divya..!šŸ‘šŸ¼
Loved ur each take..!😳
JJ scene looks so pure and adorable..!
Now its a toss of Rukaiya how she will turn her last card , but this time no paying back..!
Finally Shenu meeting with his mom..😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rishbala3018

Awesome take 5 Divya!!
I totally agree with u and was also thinking along the same lines...How jallu made ruqu realize that she wont b MUZ and he is sad about it too!
Palna back in Jo's room signifies Jallu's dream but it is bugging me y he is not remembering Salim Chisti's words that Jo was destined to become MUZ!!! I want him and Jo both to remember!!

About the precap: i think just like today Jallu will come along and shut her up!! Though i wonder how she found out Jo saved her from Jallu's wrath...cud it b Jallu who told her? Or did she hear JaJo's convo or something!!!

Even though i know Shehnaz is dreaming about killing Jallu at the end of the episode but i still wud have liked if they had not finished the episode like this before the weekend!!!

We have Maha Chuchak coming soon too, Akdha is always surrounded with one or the other villian!!



Thanks! Jallu did make a very striking point to Ruks on her not being MUZ but you are also sad about it as he thought Ruqs had so much potentia and she failed him. And she knows that.

And on Jodha and Jalal remembering she would be MUZ; well they all have short term memory loss as we know ;)

I know- it is never pleasant to see Jalal injured even if we know it is a dream

Let's see what else Jodha-Jalal have to face in terms of villains; as long as they face them together, I have no issues.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvbarun4ever

Hi Divi,

Todays episode was OK for me, liked Akdha scene. But now i am more confused now as i don't understand
Jalal- He forgave ruqs for Jodha, but also thanked Jodha for saving his friendship. Told ruqz that he will forget everything and he forgave her. I understand putting that in practice is difficult, but why was he so mean and cold with her. Isn't he creating the same situation again between him and ruqs?

Ruqs- With Jalal she looked guilty but with Jodha she is arrogant and rude. From pre cap she says she is not guilty but with Jalal she has a different story, i don't know what she is thinking

Jodha- Her behavior is exactly as it is supposed to be. I get her, BUT why is she still listening to ruqs insults, why can't she defend herself and need Jalal to defend her. In the prep, she is listening to the story just like she was listening when Maham was yelling. I don't get that, why she can't give it back to ruks.

CV's: Making ruq not feeling guilty, then what is the moral of the story, that people can't be given a second chance and kindness and forgiveness given to bad people is totally waste. Jodha and Jalal are fools to pardon her??? Why they are hell bent on making ruq so bad.

These are just questions, i don't understand. Can you or anyone please explain.

Thanks,
Sush





Hi Sush- you ask very valid questions:

On Jalal's behavior with Ruqs, I think it is to force Ruqs to introspect and learn from her mistake. It was obvious from how she was talking to Jodha that hadn't happened yet. I am wondering if he will have another conversation with Ruqs to stop viewing Jodha as an enemy which leads to the precap scene.

Jalal can't be normal yet- he is allowed to be angry with friends. But if he had punished her publicly that door would be closed forever.

On Jodha standing up for herself- I think she prefers to be dignified than join MA and Ruqs in the mud - but with MA, Jodha hit the nerve that hurt- by saying I pity you- MA was livid

I believe Ruqs is feeling guilty but only to Jalal; she will never admit it to Jodha of all people. So let's wait and watch.

The purpose of Jalal forgiving her was to show how he was willing to give Ruqs another chance as he felt he had slight responsibility for what she did. Now no one can blame Jalal if Ruqs messes up again and Jalal punishes her.

Again this is just my POV on your questions. Let me know what you think.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm



Hi Sush- you ask very valid questions:

On Jalal's behavior with Ruqs, I think it is to force Ruqs to introspect and learn from her mistake. It was obvious from how she was talking to Jodha that hadn't happened yet. I am wondering if he will have another conversation with Ruqs to stop viewing Jodha as an enemy which leads to the precap scene.

Jalal can't be normal yet- he is allowed to be angry with friends. But if he had punished her publicly that door would be closed forever.

On Jodha standing up for herself- I think she prefers to be dignified than join MA and Ruqs in the mud - but with MA, Jodha hit the nerve that hurt- by saying I pity you- MA was livid

I believe Ruqs is feeling guilty but only to Jalal; she will never admit it to Jodha of all people. So let's wait and watch.

The purpose of Jalal forgiving her was to show how he was willing to give Ruqs another chance as he felt he had slight responsibility for what she did. Now no one can blame Jalal if Ruqs messes up again and Jalal punishes her.

Again this is just my POV on your questions. Let me know what you think.


thanks divi, for sharing your pod. it makes sense. Jalal punch dialogue about MUZ was a killer.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi,

Yesterday's episode was in a way like a scene after the disaster had hit. It was empty, forlorn and had pain. Pain in the heart for Jalaal and pain in other parts for Shehnaaz and Ruqaiyya, who seems to beat all her relatives in Agra in matters of grey matter deficiency.

Jalaal:

Yes he had thanked Jodha for helping him tame his anger, and was thankful though his dream was broken, his friendship wasn't. But, that wasn't the end of the evening for the poor chap. He was only human and was still reeling from the betrayal his "friend" had subjected him to. And you can see his damp spirits when Jodha tries her best to bring him back from the dumps, you can see the resigned way in which he finally feeds Jodha. You can see it his stiff stand-offishness with Shehnaaz next day.

Jodha:

Realizing that the man of the household needed her as a strength, she mustered it up, and coddled him into eating, even if doing so with some really cliched and somewhat vague words. (They definitely need to hire new dialogue writers for her.) What captured my attention was her dress next day, her usual regalia was absent, which is a symbolic thing, in our place where elders say, you shouldn't go out aplomb in front of people who've had a tragedy as this would depress them more. I don't really know if this is what the director had in mind.

How many laughed when she had to move the cartwheel out of the way so that Jalaa could feed her? Of late the cartwheel on her face reminds me of set theory math classes. Universal set Jo's face, exclusive set area inside the cartwheel.

Shehnaaz:

Deserves a special award, and her brain should be donated to computer science for their advanced optical recognition technique. How in the world did she recognise the cave lady as her mother? She looked like Stitch from "Lilo and Stitch."

Ruqaiyya:

And this is where my attention lay.

How many of us beat our heads at her behaviour, I know I did (figuratively though). But, then I was happy with Jallu's behaviour day before y'day not for Ruqaiyya's sake, but his own.

Ruqaiyya in the precap is someone who's battling the truth that's all too obvious, having assumed Jalaal's dil to be an extinct species, she now realizes with Jodha influencing his decisions that his dimaag she had assumed was under her control, is no longer so.

Ruqaiyya is not me

That was the thing I told myself to control my anger at this girl. Of course she isn't me or any of us, to learn her lessons, and mind her manners so easily.

But Jalaal gave her the best verbal slap he could summon, the audha slap. Knowing how much audhas meant to her he said, he would sad that BEK would never be MUZ. But, did she learn? OF COURSE NOT.

However the italicized lines got my imaginations to run in full speed, and I tried imagining, what I would have done in Ruq's place. Now, that's quite an entertaining passtime.

For starters I would not employ such stupid plots. In fact I wouldn't even plot. Jalaal's heart lies somewhere else, and no amount of hatred would change that, so I would just be happy to be his trusted adviser now that Maham had been given the pink slip.

And yes, to vent out my frustration at being friend-zoned by the hottest man of 16th century, I would have organized crazy events like Beghums Vs. Bandhis Soccer League (FIFA WC is getting to me I guess.)

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Posted: 11 years ago
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