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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: MaddyO




WOW! Gheet 👏👏👏

I agree with every word. What bang on comment. Lines in bold agree totally - it should be irrespective of what Rukayya does - now Jodha should be the one closest with him in all aspects.

So far Jalal has not acknowledged his feelings for Jodha publicly by words, even though we can say he has by some actions.

Jalal when it comes to Rukayya has always put Rukayya above Jodha - why just Jodha even above himself and just pampered her silly. That is what makes Rukayya say no matter how big a lie she tells Jalal will believe her blindly.

I would so love to see Jalal acknowledge Jodha proudly and publicly - even when Rukayya is pregnant and ranting BEK and MUZ!


IKR Maddy, thank you.

You are right it should be irrespective of Ruqaiyya - and yes he is doing it slowly, acknowledging Jodha - perhaps he needs to let Ruqaiyya know the fact now. It can be sensed that he is bit reluctant about being open about his feeling towards Jodha in front of Ruqaiyya - maybe because it was with Ruqaiyya he has been boasting that he has no heart and can never love, especially Jodha. So. his reluctancy in coming clean about his feelings with Ruqaiyya makes her confident or can't really accept that Jodha is now most important so she thought that Jodha is just a plaything for him and even taunt Jodha about it. Ruqqaiya even go further and claim that Jalal loves her as now she is MUZ. If before Jalal bear, tolerate her antics because she was his bf now because she is pregnant. So this needs to change - he needs to reinstate Jodha's position, role in his life especially to Ruqaiyya - she can be pregnant or anything but that is not going to change anything about him and Jodha.

Perhaps CV is moving forward to that direction slowly, they actually need to stop showing Jalal and Jodha giving in, pretending or even hiding the real thing in front of Ruqaiyya. Ruqaiyya should witness their relationship as it is, to realize it's real and strong, and she won't be able to mess it.

And there was spoiler that probably Jodha would be pregnant at the end of the track, I would prefer it if it came about when Ruqaiyya is still faking hers and not after the exposition - way better..😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12
Great analysis. I enjoyed reading your breakdown of the episodes and the scenes. Your viewpoint was enlightening. Loved it.

As for the episode, it was a fun filled romp through the countryside. It reminded me of those 'buddy movies' like Lethal Weapon that I love so much. This episode had an extra ingredient in the buddy formula, a dash of romance. Jalal never missed a chance to be romantic, even amidst battling enemies.

It was heartwarming to see Jalal have such confidence in Jodha's skills. He sees in her an equal in every respect, not someone who needs to be pampered or protected. All in all, a superb end to the week.


Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yesterday's episode wz like a breath of fresh air when the week wz full rukiye crap...beautifully analyzed...loved how they fought together n care fr eachother...
Jalal has finally found sm1 who deserves to be called as his humsafar...always wanted to see jodha in action along with jalal...
Waiting eagerly fr the Monday...want to ruks going all red by listening to jalal praise jodha...hope she doesn't do anything to belittle her...
Want her truth out as soon as possible...
New promo is so divine...shows how much they respect eachothers religion n beliefs..
Edited by Ash1991 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi,

I was waiting for your analysis, today. And, this writeup is, as usual very beautiful. Read the update, last night, and it happened to be a beautiful episode. Will watch the episode later.

The episode was symbolic in many senses. JJ, for the first time Did Havan together. The panditji's wish for 'their' progeny, which was acknowledged by both. First time, they fought together. Jalal's insistence to 'punish' the attackers as they 'dared' harp upon him and his 'khas' begum. First time, Jodha fought using 'shamsheer' with Jalal.We all know, she was the Only lady, in Mughal, Era, to have a Cavalry,"rank", of, 12,ooo, we saw the reason, for that, 'rank', yesterday. Her fighting, skills, came in handy yesterday .

Precap:
.Jalal,Saying, that, in future he will take jodha with him everwhere😆 😆 And in reality, also, Akbar took jodha with him even during wars . So, can we assume that precap dialogue is a step forward in that direction.?.?. New Development..👏 👏

Satthi Hatth Badana, Ekk Akela thakk jyaega Milkar Bogh Uthana😆(so jalal wants jodha with him everwhere.😆 😆 ( your post remember me this song.)

Promo:
You know why i/we LOVE this story of Jodha-Akbar. Why we are stuck to this story.?.. The 'UNIQUE' feature is evident in the promo. Two people from different cultures can bond so well, despite all restrictions.Breaking all barriers of relgion Marx said in 184o's 'Religion is the opium of masses. Jodha-Akbar is One Story which has proved him wrong.!!.
Even today when we talk of rationality, a story as unique as theirs is not found barring all prejudices..




When we start losing hope the serial gives something and holds us back. :)

Agree., Abhay, today you wrote from Heart-level.👏 👏





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Posted: 11 years ago
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My comments on this episode:

When two people are married they usually take vows that they will stick by each other through "thick and thin". In most ordinary people's lives this "thick and thin" is usually about life's everyday difficulties like financial troubles, mishaps to the family, inter-relationship troubles and so on. I almost forgot that in the life of a King and Queen not only are there all the ordinary types of family troubles, but the "thick and thin" can actually involve also life-endangering physical battles with lethal enemies.

Yesterday when Jodha and Jalal fought shoulder to shoulder against inimical forces, where they trusted each other to hold up their ends of the fight and also to protect one another, where they took pride in their warrior blood and royal upbringing, and where they actually wielded deadly weapons and killed men around them like they were pesky ants, I saw what the marriage vows really meant to them.

It is not easy being the King and Queen of a whole Sultanate forever surrounded by assassination-driven enemies gunning for your life. In the real life of a King and Queen there cannot be room for physical differences between man and woman when death hangs outside every door and there is no place of safety, not even home. In fact the most treacherous of places is their home. With so much to ward off as evil and inimical, how can a Queen afford to be less than the greatest sipahi to really protect her King, her husband and her suhaag?

We have heard high tales of women who burnt themselves after their husbands were killed in war and that is often cited as the heights of bravery among royal women. But what Jalal challenged Jodha to do yesterday is to not give away her life after he went - but to fight for her life and to fight for his life too ... in the same way that he fought for himself and for her. Fighting to live is far more courageous than dying to ward off evil.

All this talk of women being inferior, unequal or weak was not a story that this great man was going to buy. He had a wife in a million and he knew just what she was capable of. He would not have let her cower from fear behind a tree yesterday. He gave her a sword in her hand and said "You do it during practice. Now show what you can do in real war. Go for it!"

In the 16th century such equality between men and women was rarer, for sure, but look at the world we live in today. Such equality between men and women isn't even found in the present century when women are still being preyed upon as helpless creatures.

But think of the progressive mindset of Jalal that actually allowed him to encourage his wife to be equal to him at a moment when he knew her life was in danger and he was sending her into the lion's den as it were. If we are commonplace romance-cravers and have lily-livers we would all say "Ooh, what kind of romantic man is this that makes his wife fight, when he should be the protective one, the defender of her, the one that takes the blows and pushes her into a safe corner". But folks, I salute the man that Jalal is, because he is not that kind of ridiculous romantic that carries a picture in his head of women and men being unequal. He doesn't need a wife he has to protect and shield. He openly shows to everyone that he wants a wife that he can respect for her abilities to not only shield herself but shield everyone close to her, including himself.

Think for a moment, what would have been the situation if Ruq was in the place of Jodha in yesterday's episode. We would have had a melodrama queen, screeching blue murder at the enemies but not doing a single valuable act in the cause of vanquishing them. Ruq would have run for safety and started distracting Jalal with all kinds of unwanted advice to do this or that ... without so much as lifting a finger herself. If anything she would have been a liability around Jalal's neck instead of being his dependable support. If I remember correctly, she didn't even know the front of a sword from its back!

But look at the wife Jalal has in Jodha. She is in every way his ardhangini. She is not the woman separate to his being the man. In fact here we have a relationship where the woman is perhaps being given a higher place by the man than he gives even himself - and it's the man himself who is saying to her "Inside the word "woman" you will find the word "man"! That's who I want you to be, and that's where I want find myself in your life!"

Look in the end how much Jalal relished the prospect of seeing Jodha at her warlike best in this whole episode. Look at the sheer pride in his voice as he showed off his wife's prowess to everyone saying she was as good as a whole army. And look at the love that flowed from him when she was tending his wounds as he said to her "I knew how good you were, but I never thought you'd make short work of all those men!" At every turn he was making little of his own skills and putting her above himself as his bodyguard!

I must thank Ekta and her crew for giving us this episode that showed us the real calibre of our lead pair. Let us forget the cribs we had that we want more "passion" in the romance. What we got yesterday was not just "passion in bed" but the "superior animalistic passion" of two people battling it out for each other against real enemies using real weapons and standing as equal with the enemy ranged against them. We had a display of a marriage that really works even when the times are very life-threatening, and not just merely unbearable.

I am really very glad that this story has now gone from two people fighting each other to two people fighting for each other. I think the children of such parents will be supremely blessed because of the kind of blood that runs in their veins. It will be a mixture of sheer Rajvanshi valour and great Mughal ruthlessness. It will be the blood of a father who knows how to treat the mother with love and the kind of respect that makes her a Queen equal in every way to his being King.

Remember folks, that scene when Jodha in Amer was once told by her mother that the King always walks ahead and the Queen follows. And Jodha said to her mother "But Mother the King and Queen should walk together so that the praja can follow them." Yesterday I saw a King and Queen walk together and I will never forget this feeling of pride I got that in this world there are some men who know how powerful womanhood really is. Thanks Jalal and Jodha. And thanks Ekta!


Mansi wonderful super analysis. 👏👏👏

As usual when episode is wonderful it brings out the best in you, but the nice thing is even not so good episodes you manage to see the positives. 👍🏼

I loved your green bits but the lines in bold wow! ⭐️

What an episode!!! Yet to get out of the episode haze! It reminded us why we LOVE Jodha Akbar and are crazy about Jodha and Jalal so much.

Where had they disappeared to?!!! We got our baghin and teda back. This is the Jodha Jalal we love. ⭐️⭐️⭐️

Honestly Rajat and Paridhi can bring magic to screen just by looking at each other - when they are given decent scenes they just make us forget ourselves. It would be a rare viewer who did not have a smile on his/her face after watching yesterday's episode.

For Jalal such fights are like office meetings! What he cherished and hugely enjoyed was fighting alongside Jodha.

Do they need to manufacture situations for romance? With these two romance is where they are together - like you pointed out Jalal was ready to romance Jodha standing in a dungeon strewn with bodies of dead soldiers!

This is the kind of Jalal we love to see the one who is so so confident in his own self and in his Jodha that he encourages her to be the best she can be. He does not want to cosset her he just wants to cherish her.

Jalal does not feel only HE should protect her, he is so much a secure person - now that he has finally got Jodha's love - they both are bringing the best in each other.

This is the Jodha we love, the fiery proud warrior like Jodha who can stand toe to toe with Jalal and be his true ardhangini. Please bring back this Jodha. ⭐️

Jalal saying to Jodha when she jumped into fight to ward off an attack on him from back - itna to yakeen hum aap pe karte hai! Uff

I just loved the goofy grins on their faces when Jodha told Jalal to sit under the tree and put on some mud-leaves on his face. Did you notice how she turned his face and put on the lep. Jalal doing the same to her. Jalal so proud of Jodha that he can't stop praising her to everyone.

What was so evident was the love and overwhelming happiness both get in just being together, in each other's presence. The location, circumstances cease to matter cos they are together.

Isn't that what we saw - walking barefoot hand in hand, get so engrossed in each other, the confidence and trust and faith in each other to stand by and protect the other always. No wonder Jalal said he will take Jodha everywhere with him! Yes please do that and please go out of haram and Agra a lot!

I felt that even Rajat and Paridhi enjoyed this episode so much, as if they were really having fun there.

Kudos to Ekta too, after all SHE chose them for our Jodha and Jalal and this is her vision.

Please CVs bring back our Teda and Fiery back. 👏👏👏 ⭐️⭐️⭐️

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Mansi,

I am still wondering what we saw yesterday was real ..or it was a dream.. It was actually a dream episode... just spectacular.. mesmerising.. amazing to see Jalal-Jodha in action as a team. Fab episode!! I am still in a hangover ... The last para of your superb analysis of an equally master episdoe aptly sums it all.. The King and Queen should walk together... Wow loved it.. And so they did and I think from now on they will always walk together..

I think CVS are correctly showing the journey of Jodha- the ordinary begum.. to Mallia--Hindustaan.. the Queen of Hindustaan..the title which she does not only get because she is the most beloved wife of Jalal but because she deserves it rightfully. She earns it.. and as Jalal had previously said in Amer ..Hum kisis ko bhi woh cheez nahi dete .. Jo usne khud mehnat se Kamaaii naa ho." Jodha really earns and deserves this title.. She is courageous brave rajvanshi and at the same time she is most humble, down to earth, good humam being wtith a heart of gold.. Jalal wants a capable life partner and has found one in Jodha who would make him proud.. to be called her husband ... He was beaming with pride as he was praising her skills.. and how he loved to see his Baaghin in full action .. He never had thought that she actually could fight with enemies hand in hand with him.. She actually had taken the avtaar of Kaalimaa... Durgaa.. yesterday..



Neeshaa WOW - wonderful post but your lines in bold just blew me! 👏
You are on fire!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey mansi
Loves your brilliant analysis of character of jalal.
This its the trait which made him akbar.
He was a true believer and such an advocate of equality of women..he gave MUZ the power to rule and in the serial im so happy they are showcasing it..loved your lines ..he is with his ardhangini now..
And lol what you wrote about rukku is epic..really she would have ranted audha and BEK..
Jalal is making jodha earn respect and admiration among people so when she is in charge people will obey her not due to being MUZ or jalals begum but by dint of her merit.
Whole mughal sultanate would be the testimony of the pedstal jalal gave to jodha and to the extent a rajvanshi begum went to save life of her husband, and the way she changed herself and her man...kudos Ekta and Cvs...at this juncture you stand higher then movie..plzz keep it on.
now something to pat my own back lol
I had said only adham is that impulsive to attack jalal..after that fight.cheapu is cunning but adham is not.so it was adham...yaar agar wish fulfilment dayvtha then I would have asked for rukku disclosure.
And as for romance as you said he is always ready anywhere making jodha beetroot red..only jallu can think of romance at danger bay.
That's why he had so many kiddos..btw
Abhay...all you post comes true..im sure cvs now stalk your thread😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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But look at the wife Jalal has in Jodha. She is in every way his ardhangini. She is not the woman separate to his being the man. In fact here we have a relationship where the woman is perhaps being given a higher place by the man than he gives even himself - and it's the man himself who is saying to her "Inside the word "woman" you will find the word "man"! That's who I want you to be, and that's where I want find myself in your life!"know the front of a sword from its back!


But look at the wife Jalal has in Jodha.She is in every way his ardhangini 👏 👏 he is not the woman separate to his being the man. In fact here we have a relationship where the woman is perhaps being given a higher place by the man than he gives even himself - and it's the man himself who is saying to her "Inside the word "woman" you will find the word "man"! That's who I want you to be, and that's where I want find myself in your life!





Remember folks,That, scene when jodha in Amer was once told by her motherthat the king always walks ahead and the queen follows and jodha said to her mother 'but Mother The king and queen should walk together so that the Praja can follw them,👏 👏 ." Yesterday I saw a King and Queen walk together and I will never forget this feeling of pride I got that in this world there are some men who know how powerful womanhood really is. Thanks Jalal and Jodha. And thanks Ekta!


Mansi,👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Busy this time coming after some time.👏




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi yesterday was our day it was one pf the best jodha akbar episode it goes in my play list now I just love your writing the green part is so well written 😊
and last para is just out of the world piece of writing and true adjectives are less for yesterday episode and jodha jalal

Jodha always believed that her partner and she will always wotk together and now her belefies coming true
on her birthday episode she told her mother that kingdom and praja is happy when king and queen walk together not agey eeche 😊 akdha simple gesture and love for eachother made a history and now its legacy
such a beautiful episode that u forgot that show has so many villians who o ly want them dead or separate from each other
but agn its proved love conquer all 😳
Ekta and team did fab job and rajat paridhi took the scenes to another level altogether
beautiful executed conceptualized

Passion doesn't mean scenes where lwads kissing every now and then without any proper content I just love there passion n dialogues so playfull
how he catch her was so good
Now songs

thorn scene
Paaon choo lene do sharm gairon se hua karti hai apno se nhin
sharm humse bhi karoge to musibat hogi
paaon choo lene do 😳


Net main the words and knife exchange
Saathi haath bhadhana ek akela thak jaayega milkar bhuj uthana 😆

The catch and ltr scene
hun tum dono jab mil jayege ek naya itihaas banayenge 😳

last scene
asmaam ke neeche hum aaj aapne peeche pyar ka jahan basate chalr kadam ke nishaan banate chale

tum agar aaath dene ka vada karo main yun mast nagmen sunata raho

lep wala love
ruk jaa raat theher jaa re chanda beeten na milan ki bela aaj chandini ki nagri main armano ka dera

my most fav part there togetheness proud as spouce love the respect
Aapki manzil hoon main meri manzil aap hai
kyun main tofaan se daru mera saahil aap hai
Koi toofanon se kehde mil gaya saahil mujhe
dil ye dhadkan teher jaa mil gaayi manzil mujhe

NOw promp by far best promo I gave seen in my whole tv viewing life sich blissful moment the aura it creates take u to another world altogether u feel you are in heaven seeing two ppl send by god praying for eachother
there love cross all barrier
the lines in promo are to die for
do khuda ke bandon ko ye yakeen hua
ek hai khuda ek hai kayanath
ek hai unki dua

I always blv in akdga spiritual connect and cvs show it beautifully every time

mandir ho yaa madjid
azaan ho yaa aarti
geeta ho ya quraan
bhajan ho ya rubaayi
kya pharak padta hai there dua is same inka pyaar ek hai

Saason ki mala main simron nain pee ka naam


mansi ek coconut pls phodena
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, what an episode we had.
watched it many times and will watch again and again...😛.

It was dreamy episode right from the 'Kaata scene' then the net fall-catch scene where Jo fell into Jalal's arms like ripened mango and their eye-lock ☺️.

Both of them fought as a team together...too good!!! Jalal was happily slaying enemies and in between romancing his wife 😆 . Looked like they were actually enjoying themselves.

Just when you are cribbing about the way story is going on they give us such a good episode that reminds us why we all fell in love with this story in first place😊

Loved your comments in green Mansi you said it right they were the king and queen walking together hand in hand so that others can follow them.😳

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