sthaapna! - Page 2

Originally posted by: smile.sara

Didn't watch epi but I wish they dare to show jodha open kindness to except his religion ...because she never show any interest in any thing about him , his culture or his religion ...she never even do adab in her inlaws place ...

It is normally Bahu in our customs n South Asia culture who adopts in laws customs but here with all her greatness she never show any inclination towards her inlaws culture , custom and religion ..even show certain type of rigidity ... Her manju although keep giving, all credit to her for all his secular, religious tolerance and good deeds but reality is she is one of most prejudice person for her religion , her cast, custom, culture and ritual shown in this show

sara, i think akbar was the chosen one, he was the rare gem!..u know how difficult it must have been to swim against the flow!..he had power..he had everything..he could have misused his power and made everyone obey with the whip of his power and force everyone to convert into islam and that is what many did..he was tolerant and secular..that was him, his personality..he was not forced to do anything..and showing him do the sthapna is just one of his examples of being a great king, and as far as jodha is concerned she had not accepted him as her own..now lets see how she will reciprocate his gesture and if cvz will keep on showing her rigid they will butcher her character and i do not think real jodha would have been that rigid!..i will comment on jodha's adaptation after seeing jalal's devotion towards her religion as per upcoming episodes because so far she has respected his religion but not adapted and same for jalal..respect has been mutual!

Mandy ...u r my friend ... Enjoy praise today from forum members ... There is no place for cross discussion on this forum atleast if discussion is not favor able for jodha begum... So I m taking leave from your thread today ... 😊

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

What a beautiful post, Mandy...even I loved the sthapna...loved the way u have described it.

thank you khushi😊

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Which culture at her in laws place did she show rigidity for?...am I missing something here?...😕...not wanting to change her religion was agreed upon before the marriage.

one thing they have shown that they both have respect for each other's religion!

Originally posted by: luvbarun4ever

You are right they agreed that she did not want to change her religion. They still showed Jodha going to holy places to offer prayers and doing namaz along with Jalal, during the tiger attack track.

Also they showed her reading Quran and learning Urdu.

I am sure they will show more of this in further...Jodha will get used to lot of mughal cultures and religion and Jalal towards hinduism.

i too think they will show her slow adaptation in future with her own will!

Originally posted by: mandyg

hi folks!

watched the epi after a lot of struggle..got lost in finding appropriate website and then finally found one where i could watch in peace but it was stopping in between..bad signal i supose or weak network..whatever appropriate technical term!

the best part of the episode was the sthapna of kahna's murti..many of us will have mixed views..some will think why jodha's welcome was done according to her culture since she is a wife of a mughal..and some will be very happy that akbar respected her beliefs and did the grand welcome her way...now this is what i think...

-this is another episode that shows akbar's secular thoughts on religion

-it was not just kahna's sthapna it was sthapna of lost honor of a hindu begum in mughal household

-it was sthapna of a mughal emperor's love for his hindu begum

-it was sthapna of trust..love..and respect that will be the base of this epic love story

like they say if u want to be treated in a way then treat other people the same way..every action will have its equal and opposte reaction..charity begins at home...akbar being a secular and fair ruler was proved by abolishing the teerth tax and in return the hindu awaam gifted him kuraan..a way of showing respect for his religion..and this was the base of his relation with a united hindustan...and now at home he did kahna's sthapna along with jodha will be the base of a divine foundation of his fair and secular practices at home..ghar aur awaam dono hi ke hain aap zil-e-ilahi..akbar the great i salute you...!

Mandy Nice post 👍🏼

But I have a feeling Jalal is sure to catch some heat from the Maulavies for this recent act of idol worship. Adham will make an issue out of it and take advantage of the situation.

One more thing, try desitvbox,com for the online episodes. That's a good site and the episodes are up within 10 min max of the airing.

Originally posted by: smile.sara

I say certain rigidity... First of all normally even today bahus start to dress like inlaws ... Atleast they mix it ...but she is always rajwanshi rajwanshi and rajwanshi... Once she wore Mughal outfit on almost pleading of her saas ...n there was big announcement of her arrival in DEK like she won some war for Mughals not wear there dress😆...

Even today my sister in law my dewar I came from England...she is desi but born London n brought up there n we live in America where also all is in English outside ... But she never speaks in English in house although she is more comfortable in English ... But jodha shown speaking very very hard hindhi in Mughal house hold ... Like she is not ready an inch to except the language of her inlaws ...now when her family gave Jalal their king and son in law reception and respect according to his own culture and religion in amer ...never...

Even when he was Jalal the jallad when he went to amer for wedding it was all jodha.s ritual and when she came to Agra at time of Jalal the jallad again hamida arranged small reception accordingg her liking...

List is very London Khushi ... I have nothing against they show her halo ...but halo should be right na ... All halo is utterly wrong ... At time of fake pregnancy ...she was the once who said now I know the difference btw rajwanshi and Mughal... 😕

sara, i agree with what you are saying she has been making such comments, but lets see if her views change once she has accepted jalal as her husband!

Good post Mandy !

Originally posted by: smile.sara

Mandy ...u r my friend ... Enjoy praise today from forum members ... There is no place for cross discussion on this forum atleast if discussion is not favor able for jodha begum... So I m taking leave from your thread today ... 😊

sara, your views are welcome, its sad how we are restricted to express our views because we are kinda trying to swim against the flow..but the purpose of my post is to throw some more light on akbar the great!

Originally posted by: smile.sara

I say certain rigidity... First of all normally even today bahus start to dress like inlaws ... Atleast they mix it ...but she is always rajwanshi rajwanshi and rajwanshi... Once she wore Mughal outfit on almost pleading of her saas ...n there was big announcement of her arrival in DEK like she won some war for Mughals not wear there dress😆...

Even today my sister in law my dewar I came from England...she is desi but born London n brought up there n we live in America where also all is in English outside ... But she never speaks in English in house although she is more comfortable in English ... But jodha shown speaking very very hard hindhi in Mughal house hold ... Like she is not ready an inch to except the language of her inlaws ...now when her family gave Jalal their king and son in law reception and respect according to his own culture and religion in amer ...never...

Even when he was Jalal the jallad when he went to amer for wedding it was all jodha.s ritual and when she came to Agra at time of Jalal the jallad again hamida arranged small reception accordingg her liking...

List is very London Khushi ... I have nothing against they show her halo ...but halo should be right na ... All halo is utterly wrong ... At time of fake pregnancy ...she was the once who said now I know the difference btw rajwanshi and Mughal... 😕

I guess comparing Jalal and Jodha might be a tad wrong. Jalal was a true secular and respected all the religions equally. Jodha might not be secular but respected other religions equally too. The way she dresses, eats or does pranaam or even talks might not be her rigidity. It's the way she's brought up. Once can't change those inculcated traits. What matters is she respects other religions and even is shown willing to learn about them.

We all know Akbar was completely open minded and a true visionary. So comparing his virtues with her would always lead to disparity.