Take 5: Top 5 countdown for May 12th; note on pg 3 - Page 6

Originally posted by: aashyagh

I agree Anne, even I did not dislike her all the time, I have liked her during Ben track, Badal/Kajri track and even during her ghrina mode I have not disliked her much, barring few instances ( she has been annoying with go die outside Amer or tiger attack), but this track has let down her character completely and have not disliked her as much as I do now. It is like a complete "U" turn from Ben track, she doesn't seem to understand Jalal at all, infact she doesn't realise her mistake, her brother's mistake in this and even suddenly she forgot how much Mirza was hurt due to Shivani's elopment? Just because you are in love or you understand love, does a wrong becomes right? From which POV, shivani was right? And calling Shehensha "heartless" again is completely c**p. Was she not the one, who always told him, "aap jhoot bolte hain Shehansha ki, aap ke paas dil nahin hain". She did not reciprocate or felt the pain he went thru, infact she became so "Heartless" that she didn't bother about his injury. When you love someone, even if the person has hurt you the most, has questioned your integrity, but that will not reduce your love to him, you will be angry/upset on him, but you don't close your heart/ears/eyes when he is hurt/injured. But she felt nothing. She was like a "Robot"😡

Originally posted by: AJSharma79

Robot at least doesn't lie or twist the fact. For all the pride of princess she has now turned into a liar. The world and Jodha exultation chorus can forget it, but I wont forget the fact that this MU was caused by her and her brother.

Funny thing, the bro ther whom she so confidently claimed will never harm her husband was the one who told him in battle field, its game on. And then she leaves Agra, defeating the purpose of hiding the truth from Jalal that is to find out from where is the danger to his life is coming.

She has totally sold her heart to pride and ego and then has the audacity to claim him heartless. Brainless yes, but not heartless. And you gave the best example of how heartless she was, the way she asked Bharmal why he is in her room, and then adds with the face like she smelt dead rat, why is he injured. REALLY? This is Jodha? Who would have died for Moti? Who jumped into lake for Rahim? Whose head was almost chopped when she claimed she killed Rukaiya's baby so that her brothers can go free? REALLY?

She is a creature so d eformed now from her previous gentle, caring, respectful self.

And she was prancing around Amer in full adorment like a cruise ship at night...full at blaze,,,,,while her supposedly love is in dangling in danger. Did she even look remotely like a woman so lost...??

And its not like Jalal is any better now. Brain is now like some molded cheese.

Munni said he is so eager and that its not only his love but also his guilt. I suppose that means he is now happy to be forgiven and to be accepted by her? What has she done that is so great that its is she and she alone can make his life meaningful?

We are not talking about a drug addict, alcoholic, gambler etc who has found love in a woman, and that has changed him into good. This is Shehensha-e-Hind. What was so great a flaw in him that she has changed so great?

Her non-existent love was never nurturing. She so constantly argued and persistently pushed her idea of goodness right at his face. It was not really a gentle coax, or nurturing way to make him grow. So what is all this hoo ha about then? He can rejoice and be happy even elated for the return of his love, but to do it in such OTT manner is way to disgraceful.

And what forgivness is he celebrating? Her forgiving him for the crime SHE instigated him to do? Where is your brain Jalal? I felt that for him to be happy to be forgiven is the all time biggest crime to have been committed to the character of Jalal.

No, she is not that great. She is not even good nowadays. If he was pining for the previous Jodha I could have understood. But not this Jodha.

And no, you are not that big a sinner that you need to kiss her feet, Jalal. Shame on you. Shame, shame, shame on you

Originally posted by: AJSharma79

Robot at least doesn't lie or twist the fact. For all the pride of princess she has now turned into a liar. The world and Jodha exultation chorus can forget it, but I wont forget the fact that this MU was caused by her and her brother.

Funny thing, the bro ther whom she so confidently claimed will never harm her husband was the one who told him in battle field, its game on. And then she leaves Agra, defeating the purpose of hiding the truth from Jalal that is to find out from where is the danger to his life is coming.

She has totally sold her heart to pride and ego and then has the audacity to claim him heartless. Brainless yes, but not heartless. And you gave the best example of how heartless she was, the way she asked Bharmal why he is in her room, and then adds with the face like she smelt dead rat, why is he injured. REALLY? This is Jodha? Who would have died for Moti? Who jumped into lake for Rahim? Whose head was almost chopped when she claimed she killed Rukaiya's baby so that her brothers can go free? REALLY?

She is a creature so d eformed now from her previous gentle, caring, respectful self.

And she was prancing around Amer in full adorment like a cruise ship at night...full at blaze,,,,,while her supposedly love is in dangling in danger. Did she even look remotely like a woman so lost...??

And its not like Jalal is any better now. Brain is now like some molded cheese.

Munni said he is so eager and that its not only his love but also his guilt. I suppose that means he is now happy to be forgiven and to be accepted by her? What has she done that is so great that its is she and she alone can make his life meaningful?

We are not talking about a drug addict, alcoholic, gambler etc who has found love in a woman, and that has changed him into good. This is Shehensha-e-Hind. What was so great a flaw in him that she has changed so great?

Her non-existent love was never nurturing. She so constantly argued and persistently pushed her idea of goodness right at his face. It was not really a gentle coax, or nurturing way to make him grow. So what is all this hoo ha about then? He can rejoice and be happy even elated for the return of his love, but to do it in such OTT manner is way to disgraceful.

And what forgivness is he celebrating? Her forgiving him for the crime SHE instigated him to do? Where is your brain Jalal? I felt that for him to be happy to be forgiven is the all time biggest crime to have been committed to the character of Jalal.

No, she is not that great. She is not even good nowadays. If he was pining for the previous Jodha I could have understood. But not this Jodha.

And no, you are not that big a sinner that you need to kiss her feet, Jalal. Shame on you. Shame, shame, shame on you

Originally posted by: divyavm

Hi Raksha, Love your combo of insightful points and funny ones.

Yes the changing equations on advisors was a good one- you can truly feel Maham Anga's silence.

On Ruqs- great observation on his openness about Jodha. He did it once before after his birthday but seeing her hurt stopped for a bit.

I think SD's turn is next!

On your funny comments I can't respond to each and everyone from my phone but trust me that every one made me laugh.

My three favorites are:
2. Maan Singh's smile: I think it may be because his Buasaa is coming back
6. What about showing winds blowing and thunder crashing with Ruqs outburst?
7. What do you think the women were really scared about?

Originally posted by: rpeez

Hey Divi!

I missed two observations, yesterday, here they are,

1. Those pumpkin heads are beginning to get on my nerves with their griping. Trust me they're like fashion police, nothing, no-one impresses them. If the Hindu subjects had gifted Jalaal Gita, they would have sang, "they're influencing King's religious beliefs". Now what's left? Panchatantra stories? 😡

Too funny!

2. Jalaal referred to Jodha as hi biwi. I know, it's not some epic lines by Bard, but, I feel biwi sounds much more intimate than his regular, beghum.

It was cute oh cute! He was acting like such a typical husband yesterday!

Now, coming to your post,

2. I like Man Singh smiling. Lord knows the lad needs some happiness in his life. Ususally he sits in DEK with an expression as if he was watching and Avengers movie in his living room, and he was transported to this place, without his knowledge. 😆

Too funny! I loved him in his early days of marriage - which was about when I loved his Buasa more too. He used to stand up to Jalal so well.

6. I think winds of Agra are used to her screams. I wonder if they'll get royally p*ssed at it at blow a kilo of leaves into her mouth just to shut her up.😆

I doubt it ... But we def need earplugs

7. Women I guess had two fears, one Jodha leaving in the night. Not many are comfortable with that thought. Even if you have a bazooka and a tanker accompanying you. Two, they were a bit scared as to how this would move forward. They hope their daughter will behave, but, they know her too well to be sure. 😆

I knew the second fear was what was on your mind!

Originally posted by: rpeez

Divi,

I liked today's episode. True, the story didn't move forward, but it focused on the changing equations, in an ever so subtle way.

1. Jalaal and his advisers - Earlier, it would have been a happy Jallu and a silently seething, but play-acting Maham. But, today, it was Jalaal with all the people he trusted truly, I know it's sad, that Shareefuddin made it to the list, but, whatever.

2. Jalaal and Ruqaiyya - Usually he masks his feelings on Jodha in front of her. Covers them up with a laughter and some sardonic comment, but today, no such thing. I loved the change in his attitude! As soon as he got to know Jodha was coming back, it was as if a bulb was lit inside him, there was "nur" in his face. Ruqaiyya seems to be setting up new records for being a haughty queen. She wanted the paigham to wait for the end of a stupid chess game? What if the message was an important strategic one?

A few observations,

1. Atgah, you perv! Why that naughty smile, when he told about sending ghudsavars to get Jodha's her ghante ki khabar? Again he smiled when Jallu repeated it outside. Apparently he knows, the past tense of his litany, "Hum huqm ki taameel kar chuke hain."

2. Man Singh, why the delightful smile on listening to you duty? If I were a Rajput warrior in waiting, I would have been clueless to such events as welcoming a bahu. Apparently Man Singh has some cool hunars as well.

3. Shareef, you're happy she's returning but, sad, not in your life. Son, tell me when was she in your life ever to return? Mad guy! I think, for a moment he was confused which flowers to lay for his crush, or maybe his fav. flower may not be available in the current season.

4. Todarmal's march past out of the hall was hilarious. He seemed to be mentally saying, "left right left"

5. Hamida, wonderful words, on them starting over. I loved she said both of them starting over, and not something stupid like, you do shiraasana or something like that. She and her son had a tiny screaming match, but thankfully Salima didn't join.

6. I am amazed, Jodha didn't get a jolt in her palki when Ruq screamed, "JODHA!"

7. Bidai scene looked great, because unlike the wedding, the daughter was truly leaving for her husband's house happy, and eager. Notice the happiness on Bharmal's face, but the tears and fear in the 3 women. Men! Can never understand.

8. Moti! She might be your friend, but you don't address her as use, when she herself refers to herself as "hum". Where are your manners?

Phew!

Great post! 👍🏼👏