Akbar Jodha - Where to from here????:Mod note pg 64&71 - Page 41

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: shiningways2407

oh to finally ab vapas se darr darr k jeene k din aa gaye hai?? 1st if makers will show akbar as gud ruler then in no way rajputs r being degraded. So these karni sena should think twice before revolting. 2nd the way this serial is being dragged on the romantic front, its looking like the show will end on the day jodha will become MUz. 3rd now after getting so much diappointments from cvs I m not keeping any hopes from cvs that they will show proper making of akbar from jalal. They will simply rush it at the end. 4th as shyamla aunty said ,this show is about jodha jodha n jodha with jalal as a prop only( its simply the actor potraying jalal that hold the audience to the character of jalal(for general audience), n we r stuck with jalal becoz of the actor we know abt Akbar the great in details).


Yes Priyan tats how it is going to take place in the serial. In movie, naming him as Akbar took place right after tax abolition. So be ready to watch this happen in the serial anytime now in the coming 2 weeks.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: knumnum


<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#003300">Yes Priyan tats how it is going to take place in the serial. In movie, naming him as Akbar took place right after tax abolition. So be ready to watch this happen in the serial anytime now in the coming 2 weeks.</font>

n the day it will happen like my imagination ,I will leave the show. 😡 I simply dont know till what extent I 'll b able to tolerate this crap. Becoz right now I m only tolerating it becoz of RT n my long vacations (after end of my school life 😆).
Edited by shiningways2407 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
I beg to differ and would urge more optimism. I do not think anything of this kind is going to happen. Karni Sabha protests were always there, and in 2008, under the previous govt., my friend Ashutosh Gowarikar had a very rough time of it in some states. The Central Govt. has no role to play in how individual State Govts. deal with such matters, as the law and order argument, which is always cited, is a State subject.

What some obscure functionary says somewhere is unlikely to affect govt. policy. The Satanic Verses was banned in India but that was because of the huge furore worldwide, which we wanted to avoid in India.

Moreover, the Karni Sabha was not pro-Jodha, but rather against the name being used at all.

So my expectation is that nothing will change, and the ongoing glorification of Jodha will continue unabated, but not necessarily heightened.

Well, I hope this clarification is not pilloried for discussing "politics" and this thread closed!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Donjas



The makers of the serial have to walk a thin line regarding portrayal of Akbar. The great emperor has had a charmed run of 400 years, it is possible that he may spend the next decade or so in relative obscurity. One must not neglect to understand the importance of the political events of the past few days.

Now, if the Karni Sena starts another of it's protests,the production house will be in a tough situation. It will get no sympathy from the new government at the center. So, it will have not too favorable govts at both state and center. I read an interview a few days back in which an RSS strategist said that he expected the new govt to "remove excessive praise of the Muslim Emperor Akbar" from history textbooks.

The production house will be aware of all these happenings. Expect them to treat Rajvanshi character and customs with respect approaching reverence. At the same time, they would not want Akbar to be portrayed as too good, they will want to spread the praise. Jodha as a Rajvanshi becomes a an obvious choice to soak up the praise.

Regarding the navrattans, other than Birbal, I don't think anyone cares. Especially not the TRP audience.

We may not like what is going to happen but we should be aware of what could happen. Everyone expects the serial to last at least another year, but we should be prepared that the end could come much sooner maybe months.

I hope we get quality episodes for whatever time it stays on air but I won't be holding my breath for Akbar or Navrattan centered episodes. Those will be a rarity, a dish to be savored.

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
shyamala, now it seems a genuine explanation is coming from a former indian government official..love you🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
its so funny how kapil was making fun of ekta's shows..he goes..kaise kaise ekta ne awraton(females) waale serial bana bana kar hamare muh pe chep diye..it was shown as a blooper then he goes oops!..but so true now JA is also following the trend😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
my fellow friends do watch comedy nights with kapil..now i am feeling so low for watching a daily soap😆

i hope kapil doesn't get a DT note from ekta for making fun of her serials😉
Edited by mandyg - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
I have a feeling that Ruqu's fainting was for real on Thursday. But this will sow a pumpkin sized idea in her pea sized brain that her being unwell is the only way she can distract Jalal away from Jodha & towards herself. And "her being unwell due to being pregnant" - this will send the "pea" into a frenzied somersault 😆...which will send common sense for a toss, & lo!!...she will make the biggest blunder of her life!!
(Btw, I loved the caress on Friday...😳...press the romance accelerator, cvs...With all your strength 😳)
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Posted: 11 years ago
My dear Khushi,

Before we get to Ruqaiya, you might like to see how I saw Rajat's Jalal in the earlier scene on Friday with Jodha, before his Begum-e-Khaas appeared on the scene. It was in response to Adiana's post on my Changeling Consort thread, whence the opening line.
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Spot on, Adiana, except that to my mind, it is not passion, but exquisite, delicate, gentle tenderness. The two are quite different, you will agree. There is no pain, only a kind of yearning coupled with a new found possessiveness.

Again, when Jalal is looking at Jodha with that aarti thali, it is not that he is not there; he is merely lost for a moment when he spots her, and that shows in the startled look in his eyes, followed by a dawning gladness at this unexpected vision.

Immediately thereafter, when he looks at her, it is with that hesitant possessiveness for the real Jodha, and it is a carryover from the way he caresses her cheek the night before.

But what I loved best of all was the MS powerpoint show before he offered her the prasad. He was eating it when the idea dawned on him, and one could see the sudden brightening in his eyes. Next, he weighs the chances of such a gesture being welcome to Jodha Begum: one can see the instant of grave contemplation as well. Then he decides that yes, it will pass without any negative reaction. So his head comes up with some confidence and he picks up a morsel and starts navigating past that horrendous cartwheel!

Faced with this effortless subtlety, Jodha confines herself to shy or bright eyed coyness, whether it is with the aarti thali or when tying a mannat ka dhaga.
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So, my dear Khushi, it is not going to be enough just for the CVs to press the romance accelerator. Already, with the precap, a definite repetitiveness is beginning to set in.

Now for Ruqaiya. As I wrote to Tripti above, what I hold against her is how stupid she is. I am prepared to admire slick villainy, but not such asinine comments and moves which expose her so badly, and that too in front of Jodha. It is then left to Jalal to cover up for her. How can one believe that this woman ever had enough political savvy to advise Jalal? She now seems to have been dropped on her head.

And if she does such a dumb and insensitive thing as to pretend to be expecting, it will be the limit .

Incidentally, my dear , I hate to disabuse you of your sunny confidence in the Begum-e-Khaas, but the first fainting fit, knocking down the largest vase she could find so as to make a clatter loud enough to be heard by Jalal inside his rooms, was a pure fake.

The Hakim Sahiba finds her pulse normal, you would remember, and then you would only have to recall the sly look on her face when Hoshiyaar was making concerned enquiries about her health if you had any doubts on that score!


I would not hold that against her; it was quick thinking and a clever move to divert Jalal's attention towards herself. But from that to pretending that she is going to have a baby when she is not will be the pits, for that would be hitting him on his most vulnerable spot.

Now this leaves the bulk of your thesis intact, bar only the opening part!

As for The Case of the Two Portraits, I do not share the criticism of Jalal for having feigned a headache (the chap is usurping all our feminine prerogatives, from crying on a man;s shoulder to faking a headache!😉) and sending Ruqaiya off.

In his place, I would not at all have liked the way she talked about Jodha being fit only to be on the side of his feet.

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: It is another matter altogether that the bulk of the Indian audience, familiar with its Mahabharata, would have immediately spotted the parallel to Arjuna and Duryodhana when they went to seek Lord Krishna's support in the Kurukshetra war! And would have started laughing at Ruqaiya.

But of course Jalal would not know of this story, despite any sporadic coaching from Rahim! Given this, I felt that despite the blatant folly of Ruqaiya in making that comment - I cringed when I heard her say that - Jalal was still admirably patient and unruffled, and put her in her place very gently with that remark about each person having her/his own ehmiyat, jagah aur makaam. his face was a study before, during, and after he administered that mild reproof, which I am sure the purblind Ruqaiya took to be an endorsement of her very ill-mannered remark.

After that, I too would have feigned a headache to get her to go away, and not make more uncalled for snide remarks about Jodha. For Ruqaiya to be jealous is one thing, and it is entirely understandable, but for her to expose herself like this, and that too in front of Jodha, must have been very embarassing for Jalal. As Ash has noted elsewhere, Jalal hates it when Ruqaiya lowers herself before him.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

I have a feeling that Ruqu's fainting was for real on Thursday. But this will sow a pumpkin sized idea in her pea sized brain that her being unwell is the only way she can distract Jalal away from Jodha & towards herself. And "her being unwell due to being pregnant" - this will send the "pea" into a frenzied somersault 😆...which will send common sense for a toss, & lo!!...she will make the biggest blunder of her life!!

(Btw, I loved the caress on Friday...😳...press the romance accelerator, cvs...With all your strength 😳)

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
😊 Aunty,Our Jalal won two awards.. 👏...Badi Ammi, Ruk ,Jo also won.. JA team rocks..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: greeshma014

😊 Aunty,Our Jalal won two awards.. 👏...Badi Ammi, Ruk ,Jo also won.. JA team rocks..


Everyone's are confirmed except Jo's 😆

But yes congratulations to everyone else. Well deserved ones for RT, Ashwini and Lavina!😃

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