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divyavm

@divyavm

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Posted: 11 years ago

The pre-amble:

So the sawaal dus crore ka ... Remained unanswered ... Aakhir, what is going on in your mind and heart Jodha Begum! As she said, "My heart told me I wanted to go but I couldn't." Now, you can fill in the blank- is it fear, hurt, anger, self-repect, ego, etc. I mean, why should the CVs answer it ... I always wanted strong dialogues for my Jodha ... But there are many who think Jodha are understanding her just fine without dialogues / self-talks ... So perhaps, the CVs are right in what they are doing ... As the forum can do the job of interpreting their character Jodha for them.

I have realized I have given too much weight and energy into this track ... When in actuality, the CVs likely tried to do something hatke from the movie that became a convoluted mess. This would not be the first time they created a mess. I can question, demand, and ask as much as I want from the CVs but it is of no use. If there is anyone who is a puppet, we are puppets in the hands of the CVs.

In the end of the day I watch this tv show and visit the forum for fun... So I am taking my take 5 to its original form which is the top 5 things I liked aboutl the episode. The day I can't find anything ... Well I am in trouble, aren't I ... And I am sure the CVs will try hard to get me into trouble. 😆

But, today was actually not bad and I even have a funny story I thought of in the end so here goes ...

The Actual Take 5

So, first the take 5, which today I am dedicating to characters today:

(1) Atgah Khan ... Take a bow, tumhari batti jali and kaisi jalli! Your final act on this serial looks to be awesome. Ironically, if he had shown this earlier, probably his end would have been sooner. Two favorite moments:

- He understood that there was some weight to what the real Dilawar Khan was saying and gave the khwaja sera security till he could speak to the Shehenshah

- He was observant enough to feel that Maham Anga was up to something when she was persistently asking Jalal about Jodha Begum ... Where were you hiding these observation powers?

(2) Mainavati: Take a bow again ... What beautiful points you made that showed how well you understood your Jamaisaa ...

- He made a mistake ... But not that big a one that it cannot be repented for

- He left everything for you ... To find you, to ask for forgiveness

- He wouldn't have done it for any other begum

- Even a Rajvanshi husband would not have come to take back his wife in these circumstances

- Do not let your pride get so high ... You drown your heart in it

Do these points sound familiar? 😉More on that later.

Three shades of Jalal:

(3) Jalal- the husband: The soul talk focused on his side as a husband, that had lost to his wife's guroor and was feeling lonely as his soul was left back in Amer as the Shehenshah's body was moving forward towards Agra.

By the way, now even the soul talk dialogues are contradicting themselves: When they said it was our last night alone ... We thought maybe emotionally. But, Jalal's soul officially contradicted: I felt so lonely that night. CVs, please wake up! 😕

(4) Jalal- the son: Some may have been worried the weepy Jalal was back ... But, I thought it was actually a very dignified exchange Jalal had with his Mom. I would have expected Jalal to be sorry to not keep his promise - that to his mother.

We know how important promises are to him after all- he was ready to give up his kingdom to ensure he kept his promise to uphold Jodha's religion. Luckily he didn't give up his kingdom again for this promise.

And Jalal, you were very smart! You didn't say you lost to Jodha's guroor- you used the word gussa. Very smart, or else God Knows how Hamida Bano may have responded! Anyways, more on Hamida Bano later. 😆

(5) Jalal- the Shehenshah: It was great to see Jalal back in his Shehenshah form in sight as he traveled and was welcomed back. But, in the precap, he was back in full force. I am not sure what this is related to ... The Khwaja Shera or the accounts golmaal but I am excited to see Jalal's interrogation of Maham ... And, I loved his dialogue that he was the Shehenshah at that moment... Separated from all relations and karzes. 👏

It also reminded me of how as Shehenshah he had to separate himself from his relation as Jodha's husband to come back to Agra to do his duties. He had to do it with all his relations!

By the way, there were some questions on the promo being deceptive as Jalal was relatively calm... While that may be the case, isn't he usually dignified and calm in the deewan-e-khaas? And he may have other personal outlets to show his anger ... Let's see.

Okay now for a Funny story ... From the CVs point of view:

When I was trying to figure out what happened with Hamida Bano ... I first thought she was replaced by an imposter by Maham Anga during their genius outing. I also know now where Jalal gets the habit of asking the chor to investigate the chori ... His dear mother! 😆

But, no there is no imposter, I think I finally figured out what the CVs are up to.

A lot of you enjoyed my fun post on how the CVs came with the track (http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3998873) so here is the continuation:

CV Team: Aaj kal kya haalat hain India-forums mein?

Voice of logic: Bohath debate hain between Jodha and Jalal's POV

CV Team: Acha hai ... Now they may stop calling Zee to pester us as they are too busy.

Voice of logic: But kya baat hai ... People are making some great points ... Better than our dialogues.

CV Team: Okay, what are they saying for Jodha's POV?

Voice of Logic: That Jalal did a grave crime- how could he accuse the person who saved his life time and time again!

CV Team: And Jalal supporters?

Voice of Logic: That his crime was not so bad ... It was circumstances. He has already repented more than any other king would do, etc. etc.

CV Team: That is a great idea! We will give Jodha's POV dialogues go Hamida Bano and Jalal's POV dialogues to Mainavati.

Voice of Logic: Errr ... Isn't that the reverse of what one would expect?

CV Team: Exactly! We need to show creativity somewhere. 😊

If you made it this far, hope this thread brought a smile to your face. So, what are your thoughts on the episode?

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adiana12

@adiana12

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Finally we saw the mother giving the daughter some home truths - about ego, about what a Rajvanshi pati would do in similar circumstances, about how no mistake is so huge that there can be no repentance or forgiveness - now all I want is for Cuckoovati to know of the full circumstances and 'Mhaari Jodha's' answers to TE's Take 5 😉 that led to this fiasco - and then see what she has to say to 'Mhaari Jodha' - I still feel TE has not told the full sorry tale to anyone - just as he protected Jodha with HB today, he seems to have done the same with the Ameris - and since the Ameris do know their own daughter and have also seen their Jamaisa's large heartedness, they must have already guessed that somewhere their daughter too had contributed to the fiasco - but I really really wish Cuckoovati does get to know of the whole srry tale!!!!!

Ahhh... Atgha sahab - lagta hai dimag ki bati finally jal gayi 😆 Shaayad SV ne badi der se Mentos khilaya !!!!! Bahut torchur karta hai re yeh sabko 😆😆😆

As for HB - well I wont blame her since only a mother can be so forthright with her child - but I would like her to take some classes in Transaction Analysis - for that matter I think even 'Mhaari Jodha' can attend these sessions!!!!! 😆

As for MA - gidad ki maut aati hai toh shaher ki aur bhaagta hai - yahan jab kisi ki maut aati hai toh woh TE ki aur bhaagta ... errr... I mean OTT ho jaata hai 😉

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Ashwini

@aashyagh

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Posted: 11 years ago

😕Divya, Jalal's longing for Jodha made me sad😭.

Jalal should trade his mother with Mainavathi. Seriously, can't she see her son in pain? Mainavathi, even though didn't mention about Jodha's mistake, which was not needed at that time, as a mother, she gave support to her daughter, but tried to show her reality of life and very firmly told her that, it was Jodha's ego which is not allowing her to understand Jalal's love and pain.

HB failed miserably in this area, she wants to take some, greatness award? She is best fit with Jodha. Ruqu is fighting hard to accept the truth. She needs to accept the facts soon, else we will see another evil coming up in Agra.

HB- did she seriously think, going with MA, she can unveil the truth?? She is Mariam Makhani??😕😆

Precap- so good to see Jalal in Shehansha mode.

P.s - what will Jodha tell her mom???😆 Btw, she didn't look like she was starving without anna ka Daana for 5 days!!?? She looked hail and healthy, but her expressions were not😉😆

Edited by aashyagh - 11 years ago

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akdha

@akdha

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

Divya, wonderful👏 ur funny story🤣 if the cv's are reading our forums, then, we need to ask and write so many, that we expect from them, than some silly pranks😡

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Spacexplorer

@Spacexplorer

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Posted: 11 years ago

loved ur post😳 it was overall a good epi😊

agree wid all ur take 5... loved jalal in all three avataars😃...

liked mainawatis dialogues d best 2day.😳...she very nicely kept d facts in front of jo... i just wish dat she would have included d jo part in mu too😊

hope jo goes back 2 agra wid fresh heart not any facade which she is searching 2 go back 2 agra...

i dont wanna be caught up again in analysing whether confession was a dream one, soul one... , antaraatma one or watever...

both ja-jo r missing each other so terribly... hope they unite soon... it has been around a month already...

jalal rocked in precap⭐️... finally he is telling ma😡 2 shut her doodh ka karz up😃... hope ma downfall starts from tomorrow😳

lolz😆... ur funny take seems a great deal ahead in d direction of understanding cvs plots😉... true both ja-jo dialogues seem 2 be changing according 2 d moods of most of d fans😆

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SUGANYA.S

@Suganya.S

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

that was indeed a great n funny post ...
eventhough a filler episode , they showed us the inner turmoil of the leads seperated from each other that was indeed good !!!
hamida should have investigated this matter with atga to search in that suraang , asking tht chudail again was illogical accompanied with Jo not letting to know her pov even to her mother !!!
must say that atga saab was hoshiyar today , with securing witnesses n observing maham ... happy to see precap

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Tabassum

@Arieltabi

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Posted: 11 years ago

Hey Divi. Great post. Love the last part. I m sure cvs r doing this 😆 .
Finally Atgah ki dimag ki batti jali. But sad he won't live long. His brain will get him killed.
What happened to Salima? How can she give that advice? I guess as MA had save Jalal's life in childhood so they don't think she can do anything against Jalal. I think HB is not fully convinced. She still has doubt on MA. But now she will forget about this for her Jodha Beti. But later she might tell Jalal about MA.
Love Maina today. She was saying what we all were saying for a long time. Love her dialogues especially the Rajvanshi one. She is right any other Rajvanshi not just rajvanshi any other king would not have tolerate her ego. Jodha needed to hear those words.
HB is irritating me.
Rukku she was so happy that Jo didn't came with Jalal. Thinking her plan was successful. Now Jo will be out of Jalal's life and Jalal will be only hers. But poor girl don't know Jalal won't be the Jalal anymore without Jodha. I hope MA don't expose Rukku to in Sujamal kand. Jalal will be broken thinking not only His badi ammi but also his best friend plot against him.
The precap was the best part. Can't wait for the epi 😛 .
Btw Divya about the shivani spoiler. Hope Jo go back to Agra on her own Not because of Shivani's marriage 🥱 .And I m not liking this Shivani remarraige. Jalal forgiving Shivani is acceptable but remarrying her in grand style is too unreal.
Sorry Divya for being late. I was busy today.

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Priyamvada

@peepu

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

Indeed a great take you managed to take 5 from it...

If jodha returns for shivani marriage it is good but this should not be the reason for her staying back

Want akdha patchup because they need each other

Not for anything else.

Hamida and maina are acting like agar saas maa ban jaye to maa ko saas banna padega..

Soon jallu will be close to maina and jodhu more cpose to hamida

Mahams ibaadatkhana should become her banishing place.

Now hope no rona dhona and jodha comes to amer herself not for any marriage or any thing..

Sleepy so me signing off😉

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Mihrimah Ahmed

@ShadeOfWhite

Stunner

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Posted: 11 years ago

Divi, again u nailed it with the fun story🤣

I liked the episode..I loved the soul-talk the most...it gave a clear picture of their states, esp. Jodha's which was needed...😊 she wanted to go but did not go..and hence she was crying remembering Jalal in ever minute.

I feel so bad for both today.😭

Jalal, no one in Agra noticed his lifeless face, gauged his pain, saw how devastated he was..not even his own mother!!! HB did the opposite..sunoed already broken Jalal.🥱

Jalal was so dignified with his mother..👏I loved what he said..but HB disappointed me big time..🥱 at this point of time, he needed his mother the most to cry on her shoulder..a mother who will pacify her son, hug him and give him utmost sympathies and hopes but what we saw? scolding him left right center!!🥱 my point is HB already gave her share of earful to him!! then why again?? how could she miss Jalal's already broken self?? jitni taqleef usse horahi hai, jitna dard usse horaha hai, jitni pashchataap ke aag mein woh jalraha hai woh samajhna kisi ke bas ki baat nahi! he is getting thrashed from every door! his so called best friend (Ruqu) was happy seeing him returning without Jodha, so was his so called doodh ka karz Badi Ammi😡 par Jalal ke dard ka kya??? how alone he is!!😭

tomorrow he will get to know about MA ka sach..just imagine his state!! poor guy, what bad days he is having!! 😭😭

I love Ameris...their love and respect for Jalal..how they gave him the solace he needed unlike his own family..no wonder Akbar was close to Ameris😊

Mainavati stole the show..⭐️ each and every line of her was fantastic!!👏 she said everything what we have been telling to Jodha.."koi aur Begum hoti, Shehenshah peeche mudke bhi nahi dekhte".. "koi Rajvanshi pati bhi apne patni ko lene nahi ata iss paristhiti mein" "mana ki Shehenshah se bhuul hui, par itna bada bhi nahi ke shama na miley" and "apne hatt ko itna bada mat banao ke tumhara astitva bhi uske samne chota padhjaye"👏

precap: let the celebration begin🥳🥳

I loved the tone Jalal was talking in😎

P.S run Jodha run...run to Agra, run to your Shehenshah, hug him tight, let him cry his heart out, let both of you release the pain...Jalal needs you the most..your husband needs you...go Jodha go😭

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rpeez

@rpeez

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

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I frankly didn't know what to make of the episode. For now I think, CVs have decided to move on with Jalaal's life without Jodha Beghum by his side. Hence, the episode focused on Maham, and she's biting more than she can chew, and how this might ultimately lead to her downfall.

On one side, Hamida is at her tail, and on the other Atgah. Kudos to Atgah sahab for showing some brains and performing due diligence, and keeping DK and Mango mood (I can never get his name, but his costume reminds me of this childhood favourite) under pehra. I wish he had showed his superior observation powers before, instead of trying to hold in digestive air, and mouthing the litany, "Hukm ki taameel hogi".

Salima, what's happening to you? I'll never forgive you for giving this stupid idea to ammi jaan. Agreed, your advice of confrontation would work on kind and pure souls, but not on soulless devils like Maham.

About precap, Jallu is back in driving seat, doing what he does best, asking questions. Had he been a game show host, people who didn't know answers would have quit off.

But in promo, her attitude is different, she looks defiant, almost as if she already has a counter-attack in place. CVs, the suspense is killing me.

As you can see I didn't even mention Jodha. As Santram had mentioned in his interview some time back, he doesn't even direct her scenes anymore. I don't when will be the next time I find her behaviour palatable. Till then, I'll concentrate on other things, Jallu's turban jewelry, guess who's kept hostage in that concrete cave, drool over Todarmal. Based on a few offscreen pics, looks like he's finally landed in Agra. It looks rather festive. I guess aircraft Jodha finally landed on the runway.

I wish, they show Jodha coming inside the palace, without any pomp and splendour, early in the morning. and when Jallu goes for his sword practice, or workout, he sees her serenely praying by her tulsi plant...

I really loved Rajat's broken voice when talking to his mum. That perfectly showed his angst. Which of course his ammi couldn't see. What the...?

Maina deserves a Nobel for doing what Jodha's pretatma, sorry antaratma couldn't. 👏

I honestly think their ghosts have Alzheimer. 😕

Nice post! You should get a medal, for finding positives in every episode. 👏

Edited by rpeez - 11 years ago