Random Thoughts on Friday's Episode - Page 3

Radhika wonderful post on Jodha... Jodha is pulling towards mind & heart.. Her heart wants to see Jalaal and may be forgive him seeing his hurt, but her mind is saying " Don't fall into the trap" the MOH she referred to...

In BEN case Jalaal also drawn towards hearbt & mind, but that time he believed JO doesn't love him, showed her anger for dhakka he got, she beared that all, as somewhere she wanted to clear MU and also after knowing BEN she wants to protect him...

But here both love each other, but still JO after this incident unable to trust him... One thing Jalaal got to know Sujamal is JO brother, what if Sujamal escaped & here JO left Agra without knowing the truth...

Will Jalaal then believe JO was innocent ? Will Jalaal feel bad JO left or he is just sad that JO betrayed him ? Will he remember her or move on thinking JO doesn't deserve his love ?

Till the truth doesn't come before Jalaal, Jalaal believed that JO is unfaithful & had N.Rishta with someone else..Now truth came he is repenting, but what happens if it doesn't repeat ? Will he trust her blindly if she can't prove her innocence...It's jalaal who has to clear the doubts & fear Jo is feeling and once she got that assurance she will move into Jalaal's life happily..

Originally posted by: abhi786

Radhika wonderful post on Jodha... Jodha is pulling towards mind & heart.. Her heart wants to see Jalaal and may be forgive him seeing his hurt, but her mind is saying " Don't fall into the trap" the MOH she referred to...

In BEN case Jalaal also drawn towards hearbt & mind, but that time he believed JO doesn't love him, showed her anger for dhakka he got, she beared that all, as somewhere she wanted to clear MU and also after knowing BEN she wants to protect him...

But here both love each other, but still JO after this incident unable to trust him... One thing Jalaal got to know Sujamal is JO brother, what if Sujamal escaped & here JO left Agra without knowing the truth...

Will Jalaal then believe JO was innocent ? Will Jalaal feel bad JO left or he is just sad that JO betrayed him ? Will he remember her or move on thinking JO doesn't deserve his love ?

Till the truth doesn't come before Jalaal, Jalaal believed that JO is unfaithful & had N.Rishta with someone else..Now truth came he is repenting, but what happens if it doesn't repeat ? Will he trust her blindly if she can't prove her innocence...It's jalaal who has to clear the doubts & fear Jo is feeling and once she got that assurance she will move into Jalaal's life happily..

well said abhi..this is what holding jodha from meeting jalal..though her heart days he loves her but her mind is not allowing her to go and meet him ...what if again he suspects after sometime..right now she is even scared to listen the word called mohbbat..that took away everything from her..earlier also jalal accused her..but she was bold and gave him back..coz she was hating him at that time..but now the relation between the two has changed..she is scared to see or to face another accusation from him..this time her mind and heart s not allowing her to forgive jalal and to move on..she is scared as usual he il say sorry and after sometime he il accuse her and suspect her..this time he not only suspected her for N rishta..he suspected her every act n things she had done so far for him and agra...he suspected even her poison act was to take revenge..in that case it wud be very difficult for jo to believe/trust him again..but again i dont want jo to forgive him under pressure ..if jalal fakes his death by thinking jo il come out and declare her feelings then it again its his biggest mistake...jo will be so stubborn to return back..lets see how they il show thr re union..right now jo needs jalal's assurance than love no matter what happens he wont suspect her ..always be with her and protect her

Yes a bang on post

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Episode was good, first jalal, appriciates widow, Marriage, the person who wants to marry widow

should be Co-operative by society. when he arrenged, Bakshi, Banu marriage again, it means jalal was already broad

that time. so his thinking was that time, poisitve, about females, but he was unaware about heart feelings, & love, but now he is awering, from his heart feelings , &he knows, deep meaning behind marriage, credit goes to jodha, &learning of jalal

why needed second Marriage,? Because if a person gets love her or Him life totally changes

so it clears, widow lost her partner, so she is in deep pain, jalal also has lost jodha, his stupidness beahaviour, ( He is

also in Deep pain) but both have realized Importance of Love before. so jalal now knows, which will she get now, if

society, willl favourable, to widow marriage

(this is again forward step, making his journry Jalal To AKBAR.

jalal speeh, about Love, mind blowing👏👏👏

How much he has changed, , how much he discoverd his heart, Great. (self questioning, did by him, &his thinking totally changed.

other side jodha, listening jalal speech, feeling proud, but she unable to accept jalal's love

because he touched her character point, that is giving jodha great pain, she is recalling that words. so jalal must be realized, you can'nt touch women dignity, when you want.

jalal many times touched jodha's dignity, (jodha's point of view, is it a fun?)

so it means, jodha inner feelings is fearing to accept jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

because jodha point of view, this time she console herself, this tough situation, very difficult

if this situation came again, then she will fully broke-up, that will be more dangerous.

(so jalal needed, to console herself, some trustable &love methods.)

so this realtion needed, some treatment, which done by (husband wife, so jalal should create

space, through talks then realtionship will become more stronger, easier &nobody can create Gap.

between them)

But ques is this, is jodha will accept ? acc to spoiler No, so twist (ready today to watch😆 😆

Todermal &jalal talks were good.

one good person when talks to good person;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;result comes;;;;;;;;;;;awesome

(so when TM will come to Agra, then ;;;;;;Amazing chemistery will be seeing to watch

But when Maham will see what her reaction, seeing interesting

TM talked about Mohares to jalal, So jalal recalled point of Mohares, which Maham is finding?

so interesting sequence, now in AGRA, when TM entry will be happen⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

jalal shared jodha talks to TM

is TM is getting, father figure after ATGHA's death?

now TM role is i think he will play important role, AKDHA"s patch-up

jalal fighting scene was good.

precap was beautiful;;;;;;;;;;;;;;jodhu is playing Holi (last Holi,Maham, create disturbance)

this Holi she is throughing clour to JALAL👏 👏 👏 👏(so Akdha's HOLI)

But Holi is a clour festival, so cloures will definately come in both's life, but this festival meaning, Happiness also, so Patch will sure Happen, after some(Ruthana Manana)😆 😆

so jodha will when sure now, then she will take next step, 😉

so jalal get ready;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;jodha is not, easily handled this time, More efforts needed by you😆 😆

Ayushi I just wanted to add one more point to all your fabulous points. I thought when Jalal defended the widow's right to love second time, he was seeming like he too wanted to "fall in love" one more time afresh with Jodha. Instead of just looking at their love as something gone spoilt by suspicion and lying and other such negative emotions, it was like he was expressing the need for a fresh new start to even their love. Did you also get that feeling?

Mansi, Agree your these lines, Yes i got that feeling

jalal's point of view, need for a fresh new start, in last days he too much analysised him, he now knows,he has no life without jodha. He now wants, past which he has mistaken, &he said to jodha

harsh words, suspicion her character, etc, now, these things washed away from his heart.

so now new start, these things no entry,

now there journey will be totally different, because now in their realtionship will be availability of freshness.

but other side jodha scene was beautifully pictouried;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;she knows, jalal is in deep pain

he is feeling guilt, He is accepting his mistakes. jodha knows, her heart is saying, forgive jalal

but suddenely Mind says;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;No jodha, if this happen again;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;then you will again, feel more down, then you will not that situation, you will recover your self.

suppose, she will go easily, then if problem came next time, or jalal will say, jodha go here,

then jodha what will you do?

Heartlevel says yes, jodha is reconizing, but Mind level wants insurrance.But jalal is a Mind level person, He came Mind to heart, He already insurranced, her, Mind & heart, so his speech was touchee, &showing, he now wants, A fresh start, now no entery stupidness things.

suddenely one thought, when this fear finish with the side of jodha.

then there realtionship where will be stand;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;amazing

No pagal khana scene, so episode deserves⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

i same posted in Mansi thread.

which scene jalal ;s blood, fills the MANNG of jodha that means, realtionship will be now, sorting jone👏

Originally posted by: peepu

Yes a bang on post

I absolutely agree

I had also pointed out in mansis thread the samr thing

Jalal needs to assure jodha that she will not be questioned again...

She is not jalals bachpan ki dost neither she is his cousin or rishtedaar he married...she is purely his wife...true a woman wants that backing from her husband.

I really want jodha to be chin up and question this to jalal.

But really was not happy seeing her hiding face and going away..

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Radhika super post. I also feel the issue here is not about love but trust. Here is what I wrote on Mansi's thread. Just copying here again.

I guess the impatience everyone is feeling for "the meeting" is reflected in slight disappointment towards Jodha. Jalal has been searching for her, why is she not even willing to meet!

I don't think there is any doubt in Jodha's mind now about her love for Jalal. Nor does she have doubt about Jalal feeling love for her.

The issue here is trust and for Jodha it has always been the most crucial part. Remember the first positive thing Jodha told Jalal was 'hum aapse ab ghrina nahi karte, kyonki aap wo hai jo ab humpe vishwas karte hai'. How did Jalal forget this? For Jodha there can be no relationship without trust, and even when she feels such deep love, she knows without trust there can really be no relationship.

We have seen Jalal's repetence, his misery so it is as if HE has done more to reconcile while Jodha is hiding away.

Jodha does not know any of this. Yesterday was the first time she saw him after his accusing her with some very ugly words and telling her to leave in the dead of night. Just imagine if Jalal had met her next morning, we would want her to NOT forgive him. Just cos we have seen time passing and his repentance does not mean she can just forget everything instantly! She has been trying to get on with her life away from Agra but most importantly from him. She cannot confide in anybody but her Kanha. There too she does not have much privacy since this Shehnaz seems to be clinging to her with all her might!

Jalal is always very flamboyant in his hatred, expressing feeling and only Jodha ever gets the best and also the worst in him. He has not much control over his emotions when it comes to her. He sees only with Jodha can he have a life he never imagined existed or possible.

Jodha on the other hand started from extreme ghrina and hers has been slow but steady progress. For Jodha once she fell in love it was total and deep. So the hesitancy in acknowledging her feelings, she herself is hesitant and bit scared. Cos Jodha knows she drives Jalal to extreme feelings.

Why does Jalal doubt her or not trust her? I would think the person who tells you openly to your face that she feels only ghrina for him, who truly never wanted anything from him, not from Shehenshah. Whatever she asked him for as Shehenshah was FOR him not from him. So when Jodha says something why Jalal needs proofs?

Jodha has understood and got over the Sujamal part in Jalal's blasting her. To me what hurt her most was that her most selfless act, where she saved Jalal's life and almost gave up her own, in his anger he termed that as her revenge! He threw that in her face. Jodha went through extreme humiliations not just private but public during Ben matter. She just cast them all aside and only thought about Jalal's safety. When she thought she had his trust again she was happiest. She was so eager to let all the hurts of the past go so that she can start with him again.

The same accusations were leveled against Jodha during fake MC track. That time she had her hatred to give her strength. She believed her judgement about him was correct and that and the false accusations made her stand up to him.

This time she is at totally different place, just like after vishpaan Jalal thought now all that he has to do is show patience and she will be where he is, Jodha also thought that all the insults, pain, hurt she felt in Agra was behind her. When Jalal professed his trust in her, she thought finally she has his trust and faith.

It was not his accusations but the manner of them hurt her to the core. How can he question her most selfless act and turn into something so ugly? If he can do that then is there any foundation at all for them to stand?

Here again in Mathura, how can Jodha know Jalal has not come to meet her only because her loves her. He got the truth about Sujamal and knew his accusations were wrong so for his love for her he wants her back. What about trust?

How does Jodha know Jalal's actions are not only driven by love and guilt? For her trust is supreme, more so because she has been put through so many loyalty proof tests, that she was justified in thinking finally she has earned his trust.

So his extreme reaction, which stemmed from his love but also hate recoiled her. How can she go through this again and again?

Just cos Jodha is not as flamboyant about expressing her feelings does not mean they do not run as deep in fact deeper. So how can she again risk everything. She once tried to give up her life, she still tried her best, why won't Jodha think that maybe even her best is not good enough for him?

Also she has seen he needs proofs only from her! He gives his trust blindly to some people. He has faith in them even when she can see they do not deserve it. What else can she do for him that he can have this trust in her?

Now Jodha thinks after all this if she has not earned his trust then she might never will. To her trust goes hand in hand with love, so how can she risk everything again.

I so hope we do not just get to see Jalal say sorry, Jodha refuse, his big dramatic act to make her realize her love. That is all ok - they both now know they love each other. HOW WILL THAT SHOW HER HE NOW HAS FULL TRUST IN HER? AND TILL WHEN? HOW CAN SHE BE WRONG IN THINKING IF HIS TRUST WILL STAY?

If anything Jalal has shown her extreme reactions. Now is she wants his steadfast trust why is wrong in expecting that. If she feels she has not been able to earn it after doing everything she can - then she feeling scared is very justified.

Can we also honestly say Jalal will not again get taken in and accuse her of something? Jodha is just trying to protect herself.

It is upto Jalal to assure her of his trust now, love she knows. They need to have talks and he has to show her by actions.

Originally posted by: abhi786

Radhika wonderful post on Jodha... Jodha is pulling towards mind & heart.. Her heart wants to see Jalaal and may be forgive him seeing his hurt, but her mind is saying " Don't fall into the trap" the MOH she referred to...

In BEN case Jalaal also drawn towards hearbt & mind, but that time he believed JO doesn't love him, showed her anger for dhakka he got, she beared that all, as somewhere she wanted to clear MU and also after knowing BEN she wants to protect him...

But here both love each other, but still JO after this incident unable to trust him... One thing Jalaal got to know Sujamal is JO brother, what if Sujamal escaped & here JO left Agra without knowing the truth...

Will Jalaal then believe JO was innocent ? Will Jalaal feel bad JO left or he is just sad that JO betrayed him ? Will he remember her or move on thinking JO doesn't deserve his love ?

Till the truth doesn't come before Jalaal, Jalaal believed that JO is unfaithful & had N.Rishta with someone else..Now truth came he is repenting, but what happens if it doesn't repeat ? Will he trust her blindly if she can't prove her innocence...It's jalaal who has to clear the doubts & fear Jo is feeling and once she got that assurance she will move into Jalaal's life happily..

Originally posted by: Gem12

well said abhi..this is what holding jodha from meeting jalal..though her heart days he loves her but her mind is not allowing her to go and meet him ...what if again he suspects after sometime..right now she is even scared to listen the word called mohbbat..that took away everything from her..earlier also jalal accused her..but she was bold and gave him back..coz she was hating him at that time..but now the relation between the two has changed..she is scared to see or to face another accusation from him..this time her mind and heart s not allowing her to forgive jalal and to move on..she is scared as usual he il say sorry and after sometime he il accuse her and suspect her..this time he not only suspected her for N rishta..he suspected her every act n things she had done so far for him and agra...he suspected even her poison act was to take revenge..in that case it wud be very difficult for jo to believe/trust him again..but again i dont want jo to forgive him under pressure ..if jalal fakes his death by thinking jo il come out and declare her feelings then it again its his biggest mistake...jo will be so stubborn to return back..lets see how they il show thr re union..right now jo needs jalal's assurance than love no matter what happens he wont suspect her ..always be with her and protect her