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Originally posted by: skanda12
Maddy, you and everybody who adds to my posts and writes on this thread every day deserve kudos.We are all consciously keeping this thread clean and balanced ... and we are contributing impartiality of attitude, decency in discourse and really valuable deeply-thought points of view.Thanks everybody for helping make this thread inspirational rather than irrational. I have noticed that we all have varied points of view but we never try to impose our views on others and we also do not believe in trashing characters, actors and the like.What's the point of doing that anyway? Is anybody giving a certificate for how "bashing" a post is?
Originally posted by: ayushimehra
Maddi well said, you described, both's situation, which they are thinking, Good way, you ans'd your ques, own. i felt yesterday, Ela thread, your mind wants ans, why jodha, sielant yesterday.i also wrote, Heart level they attach, they feel for eachother, every, corner.(for ex, when we see some emotional, or heart level, Movie, we realize there emotions) but after sometime we needed, more things, in life. that jodha needed, now from jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Trust, her self respect, by all ( in this staze, Ruk , or Maham how behaves jodha)if jalal will trust, or respect jodha, then automattically, other things will be sloved.so self realization, jalal, now knows, he was wrong. but he should learn,knowing is not enough, practically, situations wants from you more. so if feeling are their importance, words also their own importance.so jalal now should be insure, jodha's mind &heart both. but situation is this, he alreadynow own knows, importance of both, so little time will be more, then situation will be comfortable.. but jodha where standing, all steps, she already walked, new steps he neededjalal. when he will walk one step more;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; jodha get some space positive, so walking will be easier, or respectful for her. if this not happen ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;then no use ofagain sorry of jalal, or no use of jodha's presence.
Originally posted by: skanda12
I wish you see the pain in Jodha as I do. I am not sure how to convey it. Just because she does not speak she is not "dumb". In fact her heart is so full that words are not coming to her. We need sensitivity from our side to appreciate what she is also going through. Jalal is ready to take up mohabbat as a concept, but Jodha is fearful because she see it as something that hurts!Give her time to feel comfortable with it again. And it is important always to see a subject from all sides. Jalal is showing one side of love and the way someone who is ready for it acts. Jodha is showing another side of love and the way one who is unready for it acts. neither is "great" nor "dumb". How cann two people think identically, or how can we expect two people to think identically? The beauty of any story is to see how different characters deal in different ways with different subjects. If everone were the same what is the interest in the story?Also that line I have marked in blue ... I think you have not caught the correct meaning of what she said. She ws not asking herself, she was asking Kanha. And she was saying "Kanha, you know that I don't want to get entangled in love and then see it slip away from me. It is very difficult to bear when it goes away. So when I have left it behind and come here, why are you reopening my wounds by bringing the Shahenshah here?" That is what she meant.
Originally posted by: kmmdesai
Maddy,Very passionate post and beautiful. 😊I am really glad that I logged in today. I read some good, positive posts.Here is the issue is of trust, not of love. Jalal need not prove his love to her, but make her trust him.Jalal need to assure Jodha that he will be with her, no matter what. That she can trust him with her life, and her heart. This needs time and patience. You need give Jodha the heeling time.Very well explained Maddy.LoveKshithi
Mansi, allow me to congratulate you for the above. This is the essence of Jodha as I see her. I skip so many episodes in between, but I can still recognise that this rings true for Jodha. I think CVs have been quite consistent with her character. She isn't someone who wears her heart on her sleeve like Jalal. She can't be vulnerable like that and risk getting hurt, because when she is hurt, it goes deep. When she finally feels free to trust her heart to him - well...still waters run deep. Watch out Jalal.
Ayushi lovely take. Absolutely Jodha now needs assurance from Jalal, she knows he loves her, what she needs is to see that when it come to others, he will stand by her. All this while when it came to Ruk, MA somehow most times, Jalal stood in middle and Jodha alone on one side (except for Murti kand) and all others accusing her.
Doesn't it say what she feels by who she prays for. Only Jalal, HB, SB (Rahim) are the ones she misses. Rest she knows very well would be happy to see her gone. Only Jalal can assure her of his trust and that he will stand by her no matter what and against no matter who!
Line in bold, that is what I so love about Jalal. He did not really WANT to love Jodha, he did not WANT to see her become important to him - but when it comes to Jodha, he has no control over his feelings. When with all others he can be very much controlled Jalal. Only Jodha can drive him to extreme emotions.
It is like for Jalal, it is either Jodha is or Jodha isn't - nobody else occupies that part of his mind also. He wants everything she can bring to his life cos he knows nodboy else can and only Jodha can make him truly happy or truly miserable. There is just no middle ground for him with Jodha.
So for her he becomes too much to take at times!