All talk is of mohabbat ... and Todarmal adds his touch to this topic! - Page 6

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I watch the epi after long time 😊
Ur analysis :👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Maddy, you and everybody who adds to my posts and writes on this thread every day deserve kudos.
We are all consciously keeping this thread clean and balanced ... and we are contributing impartiality of attitude, decency in discourse and really valuable deeply-thought points of view.
Thanks everybody for helping make this thread inspirational rather than irrational. I have noticed that we all have varied points of view but we never try to impose our views on others and we also do not believe in trashing characters, actors and the like.
What's the point of doing that anyway? Is anybody giving a certificate for how "bashing" a post is?



Mansi that is exactly right, positive posts inspire us, make us think and try to understand different POVs and feel empathy.

I don't really get what pleasure is derived from hating any character? Ok understand if that is a very negative character like MA, we do not hate her rather hate what she is and what she does.

Why see everything negatively, doesn't the same apply to our life too? What is to be gained from this I really don't understand. I also wish Jodha's act for standing up for herself, her dignity should never be termed as running away, lacking courage. There are very young girls here reading posts and they should not get romantic ideas about wrong actions!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

I watch the epi after long time 😊

Ur analysis :👍🏼

Riyya, how is your heavy breathing?😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra


Maddi well said, you described, both's situation, which they are thinking, Good way, you ans'd your ques, own. i felt yesterday, Ela thread, your mind wants ans, why jodha, sielant yesterday.

i also wrote, Heart level they attach, they feel for eachother, every, corner.(for ex, when we see some emotional, or heart level, Movie, we realize there emotions) but after sometime we needed, more things, in life. that jodha needed, now from jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Trust, her self respect, by all ( in this staze, Ruk , or Maham how behaves jodha)
if jalal will trust, or respect jodha, then automattically, other things will be sloved.so self realization, jalal, now knows, he was wrong. but he should learn,
knowing is not enough, practically, situations wants from you more. so if feeling are their importance, words also their own importance.

so jalal now should be insure, jodha's mind &heart both. but situation is this, he already
now own knows, importance of both, so little time will be more, then situation will be comfortable.. but jodha where standing, all steps, she already walked, new steps he needed
jalal. when he will walk one step more;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; jodha get some space positive, so walking will be easier, or respectful for her. if this not happen ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;then no use of
again sorry of jalal, or no use of jodha's presence.



Ayushi lovely take. Absolutely Jodha now needs assurance from Jalal, she knows he loves her, what she needs is to see that when it come to others, he will stand by her. All this while when it came to Ruk, MA somehow most times, Jalal stood in middle and Jodha alone on one side (except for Murti kand) and all others accusing her.

Doesn't it say what she feels by who she prays for. Only Jalal, HB, SB (Rahim) are the ones she misses. Rest she knows very well would be happy to see her gone. Only Jalal can assure her of his trust and that he will stand by her no matter what and against no matter who!




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12




I wish you see the pain in Jodha as I do. I am not sure how to convey it. Just because she does not speak she is not "dumb". In fact her heart is so full that words are not coming to her. We need sensitivity from our side to appreciate what she is also going through. Jalal is ready to take up mohabbat as a concept, but Jodha is fearful because she see it as something that hurts!
Give her time to feel comfortable with it again. And it is important always to see a subject from all sides. Jalal is showing one side of love and the way someone who is ready for it acts. Jodha is showing another side of love and the way one who is unready for it acts. neither is "great" nor "dumb". How cann two people think identically, or how can we expect two people to think identically? The beauty of any story is to see how different characters deal in different ways with different subjects. If everone were the same what is the interest in the story?
Also that line I have marked in blue ... I think you have not caught the correct meaning of what she said. She ws not asking herself, she was asking Kanha. And she was saying "Kanha, you know that I don't want to get entangled in love and then see it slip away from me. It is very difficult to bear when it goes away. So when I have left it behind and come here, why are you reopening my wounds by bringing the Shahenshah here?" That is what she meant.


Mansi, allow me to congratulate you for the above. This is the essence of Jodha as I see her. I skip so many episodes in between, but I can still recognise that this rings true for Jodha. I think CVs have been quite consistent with her character. She isn't someone who wears her heart on her sleeve like Jalal. She can't be vulnerable like that and risk getting hurt, because when she is hurt, it goes deep. When she finally feels free to trust her heart to him - well...still waters run deep. Watch out Jalal.
Edited by PadBear - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kmmdesai


Maddy,

Very passionate post and beautiful. 😊
I am really glad that I logged in today. I read some good, positive posts.

Here is the issue is of trust, not of love. Jalal need not prove his love to her, but make her trust him.
Jalal need to assure Jodha that he will be with her, no matter what. That she can trust him with her life, and her heart. This needs time and patience. You need give Jodha the heeling time.

Very well explained Maddy.

Love
Kshithi



Thanks a ton Kshithi, for your lovely words. I am so glad to see you back on forum again. Really missed you.

So far Jalal had told to Jodha's face, Rukayya always comes first, Jodha will never have any importance. Now Jalal has to show Jodha what she means to him. After all that she has gone through in Agra, it is only upto him to restore her confidence. The no matter what is you said is the most critical - cos his trust always gets measured against that for MA and somehow she always wins! OR won, hope that is now a thing of the past.

Though honestly, I would love to see it happen because he starts noticing MA, seeing through her. If MA truth comes in front of Jalal through some act where Jalal has NO OPTION but to see the truth, then he needed proof also to see bad side of MA. I want him to realize first and then act on it, not have to act on it!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: PadBear


Mansi, allow me to congratulate you for the above. This is the essence of Jodha as I see her. I skip so many episodes in between, but I can still recognise that this rings true for Jodha. I think CVs have been quite consistent with her character. She isn't someone who wears her heart on her sleeve like Jalal. She can't be vulnerable like that and risk getting hurt, because when she is hurt, it goes deep. When she finally feels free to trust her heart to him - well...still waters run deep. Watch out Jalal.



Line in bold, that is what I so love about Jalal. He did not really WANT to love Jodha, he did not WANT to see her become important to him - but when it comes to Jodha, he has no control over his feelings. When with all others he can be very much controlled Jalal. Only Jodha can drive him to extreme emotions.

It is like for Jalal, it is either Jodha is or Jodha isn't - nobody else occupies that part of his mind also. He wants everything she can bring to his life cos he knows nodboy else can and only Jodha can make him truly happy or truly miserable. There is just no middle ground for him with Jodha.

So for her he becomes too much to take at times!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Ayushi lovely take. Absolutely Jodha now needs assurance from Jalal, she knows he loves her, what she needs is to see that when it come to others, he will stand by her. All this while when it came to Ruk, MA somehow most times, Jalal stood in middle and Jodha alone on one side (except for Murti kand) and all others accusing her.

Doesn't it say what she feels by who she prays for. Only Jalal, HB, SB (Rahim) are the ones she misses. Rest she knows very well would be happy to see her gone. Only Jalal can assure her of his trust and that he will stand by her no matter what and against no matter who!





Thanks Maddi, yes she wants to insure, from jalal side, so Cv should create space, between both of them😆 😆 today Mansi word use, refresh start, Right, now both are where standing, Refresh start needed both.😆 i think we all like that episode, when jalal will say respectfully, Jodha is right
then , both Good energy will be work. jodha will be insured, then her insecurites, will be laps, then both will able to do another imp-work.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Now this happening, slight incident happen,
realtionship is damaging.if jodha easily handeled this time, this will happen again, again.
so sometimes our heart feels pain but Tight punishment needed. that is doing Jodha.she knows
jalal is in deep pain, his pain she is also feeling deep pain. But in future, this situation will not come
so she is using this method.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Line in bold, that is what I so love about Jalal. He did not really WANT to love Jodha, he did not WANT to see her become important to him - but when it comes to Jodha, he has no control over his feelings. When with all others he can be very much controlled Jalal. Only Jodha can drive him to extreme emotions.

It is like for Jalal, it is either Jodha is or Jodha isn't - nobody else occupies that part of his mind also. He wants everything she can bring to his life cos he knows nodboy else can and only Jodha can make him truly happy or truly miserable. There is just no middle ground for him with Jodha.

So for her he becomes too much to take at times!


yes true 😊 Jalal is heart-warmingly driven out of his mind by Jodha and Jodha can't handle that coz it scares her. Such a recipe for epic-ness, but oh so delicately balanced it can hurt. She wants a more 'stable' Jalal... 😆 ... who can be passionate only after 7 pm. 😆 ... I know..I just KNOW how she feels that it scares me. My heart goes out to them and I hope they find another moment of bliss soon.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great analysis, balanced views !!

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