Jodha Akbar 214: The meltdown- Part 1:Mod note pg58 - Page 13

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Posted: 11 years ago
Pata Nahi Mandy😉 and I am going to die out of curiosity and angst over the weekend if Sy does not let me into her secret 😡 - and if you dont see me in the forum on Monday you will know who is responsible na????😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hey, how is that no one even at Amer says that Jodha was wrong in hiding the truth from Jalal and even Suja was not thought of in wrong for the mess he caused?
Are they also affected by HBtis.
How is that her omissions and faults become invisible (not just now but always since the narnaal affair ) to everyone? May be she uses her black kambal invisibility cloak to cover them! Or perhaps she uses Obliviate memory charm! 😃. Clever girl!😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Hey, how is that no one even at Amer says that Jodha was wrong in hiding the truth from Jalal and even Suja was not thought of in wrong for the mess he caused?

Are they also affected by HBtis.
How is that her omissions and faults become invisible (not just now but always since the narnaal affair ) to everyone? May be she uses her black kambal invisibility cloak to cover them! Or perhaps she uses Obliviate memory charm! 😃. Clever girl!😃



Sandhya at least they did not blame TE the way Agra waasis did - even in thought - let us be thankful for small mercies!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
Nirupa Roy ???🤣

So apt !!!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr



Sandhya at least they did not blame TE the way Agra waasis did - even in thought - let us be thankful for small mercies!!!


U never kno adia. We cannot trust the sas log. Jodha myt hv got her indecisiveness from her own family
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr



Sandhya at least they did not blame TE the way Agra waasis did - even in thought - let us be thankful for small mercies!!!


dont celebrate so soon. who knows he may face the lectures on monday.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: knumnum


U never kno adia. We cannot trust the sas log. Jodha myt hv got her indecisiveness from her own family



No Krishi, now I can rest easy from the Ameris - they wont blame my TE - as for how they tackle Jodha - I still have hope that Jodha gets the bhaashan of her life from her mother on how she has taken her husband and her marital relation for granted and how the one who has kept this relation alive is not she but her husband - what a role reversal between man and woman (yes my feminine bias is showing 😉😆)!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

The Soliloquy: I was so pleasantly taken aback, and hopeful, as were so many of you, seeing the unusually clear and logical phrasing of Jalal's soliloquy in front of Jodha's portrait, which was in fact unbelievable by JA standards. As also by his intensely moving, and dignified vilaap - candid and holding nothing back, offering no facile excuses, but not letting her go scot free either.

The deep voice rose and fell, at times thickening with pain and regret, at times almost too husky to make out. The little catch in it as he says that as it is his pehli mohabbat, he has no mohabbat ka tajurba, is so understated, and it is such a throwaway line, and yet it made my heart turn over in empathy.

His face was furrowed with both grief and plaintive protest, but it retained its dignity and never descended to being maudlin. . I was left wondering who had written those lines for him.

The same chap who penned for him on Friday last.😃
What this showed is that Jalal is now clearly inhabiting a vision of his life with Jodha that is a pleasing, though fictional mental construct, no more. But the point is that he has begun to believe in this version, like man lost in roseate opium-fuelled fantasies.

He was also going on about her vafadari aur mohabbat, which too made wonder what he had been smoking.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But of course, as is invariably the case in this benighted show, Jalal's good sense and logic were short-lived, and withered and died under the blast of his Ammijaan's fiery (and totally inconsistent, but that is the one consistent element in Jodha Akbar!) rhetoric. He promptly started giving his best take on an ice cream left out in the sun.
HB😡😡😡😡

As for her comment about the need for him to be able to recognize good from bad, the track record of the family in the matter of sons in law does not inspire confidence, does it ? And then he could have told her that when she herself had made the same accusation against her Jodha beta, it was he who had stood by Jodha, and that too without any evidence.

Ghajinitis again.

What stayed with me from this segment was Ruqaiya's silent double take when Salima tells Jalal that she knows ki aap Jodha Begum se behad mohabbat karte hain, and her lifeline of a dil- less Jalal is lost for ever. Another was the genuine, frozen despair in her face as Jalal announces that he will go in search of Jodha and will not return without her. She has guessed this already, and said as much to Mahaam, but coming face to face with it is something else.

😭😭😭😭😭. It was subtly done and it registered.
My bet is that Mainavati will blame Jodha and Jalal will defend her, while indulging in yet another bout of self-flagellation. The Amer lot, especially Bharmal, will curse Sujamal, roundly and with good reason, for having created this imbroglio, while Jalal defends Sujamal as well and lauds him for saving his life.
Nope.No one will ever blame Jo. even if they do the blame will not last for half to one episode. As for menawati There is no beating her in wailing. Is tongue cutting their family disease?
As for Bharmal, he is such a selfish father who even put his daughter's marriage at risk in Shivaani track for the sake of his benefit and later used the opportunity of her vishpan sacrifice to mend his relationship with Jalal. He will use this chance to be Jalal's sympathiser and helper to the fullest and impress him.
But did Jalal have to cry in Amer too. has this emperor no self control or self respect?

Jodha:What Jodha has done is not just childish, it is profoundly irresponsible, She, a lone and beautiful woman, wandering all over the countryside with no resources , would be exposed to all sorts of very real dangers that could end up destroying her body and soul. It is exactly like a teenager today who runs away from home in a huff, and if he/she is not lucky, ends up as the puppet of a criminal gang and is used for their sordid ends.

But of course no one is going to point that out.

Naturally. That was, is and shall forever be the norm.

She is presumably subsisting on fresh air and the abundant prem she suddenly announced that she now feels for the Shahenshah.😉 (I was dumbfounded by this sudden, giant leap from bhavanayein putting out their little shoots like snowdrops after winter, but bahut prem? Does she even know what that is? )

Like her discovery of his dil and acknowledgement of its existence, her prem for him will also be in and on/off mode.
This despite the Shahenshah having given her bahut dukh by not looking deep into her eyes (courageously risking another dhakka ) and divining that she meant something very different from what she said and what she did not say.
Oh! it was his fault he didn't learn occlumency when she learnt her obliviate charm so well. As the Imperius Curse under which he was under control so long failed, she is now attempting the emotional Cruciatus.

The funny thing is that 450 years down the road, Jodha's rooh is if anything even more aggressive in pursuing this line of attack Aapko dekhna chahiya tha, par nahin.. Aapne hamare moun ko hamaar apradh samajh liya..aur hamare prem ko paap. Bang! Knockout blow!

Et tu rooh?
And Jalal's rooh is as submissive and as ready for self-flagellation as ever, closely resembling a Chinese Communist Party cadre at a public, self-corrective exercise.😉
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

A question about Jodha: But the question that haunts me, and to which I seek an answer is this. Does Jodha, so ready to feel her own, and justified outrage and pain, at all understand what Jalal must have been going through these last few days because he loves her? Does she even glimpse, not to speak of grasp, the horrendous agony that racks him because of what she has been doing, which drives him almost insane with jealous rage? Does she understand how she is in good measure responsible for what he does in the end?

When has she ever learnt to admit her faults Aunty? Ever attempted to understand him even when he speaks or screams? But he HAS to understand her silences too as he is bound by the Great Vivaah Vachan to do so.😡
It does not seem to me that any of these questions can be answered with a Yes. If not, then what sort of a love is it that she now claims to feel for him, a love that cannot read the heart of the loved one, cannot see things thru his eyes, cannot perceive and will not heal the hurt that lacerates his whole zehen?

Jodha's 'epic' love.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 11 years ago
Adi, as Jodha is missing now, they will not blame Jodha, but once she is found safe, hope Ameris give her some sense, but expecting them to blame Sujamal or Jodha at this stage, no parent would do. We should just be glad that, they didn't blame Jalal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
No, my dear, Aunty yes, Shy , no, for that is one thing I am not! 😉So Shyamala Aunty will do just fine.

Just disregard all these effusions canonising Jodha Begum. You cannot change anyone's mindset, and they are welcome to their views, and we to ours! I spare myself a lot of exasperation by not reading anything in the forum but a very few select threads.

As for the Chinese Communist Party joke, it goes like this. In the CCP, erring cadres are not punished for minor breaches of party discipline, of they are ready to confess their sins in public, at a Party gathering, and do prayaschit. The ones doing this naturally look very shamefaced and despodent and guilty. Just like Jalal. You know, I am glad you asked me!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: knumnum

Shy aunty, can I call u so?😃

Returning to the serial, I agree with Jeannie Jodha is irritating and I am so disappointed with other ppl here. How can they be so feminists tat they blindly take her side jus cos she s a woman. I read in one of the posts where the person mentioned tat we are proving y women are worst enemy of another woman Heights of hypocrisy I tell u!!!

I fail to understand wen did jodha ever try to understand others pov especially jalals. She doesn't fail to understand every other tom dick n Harry but she always fails wid jalal. Why???!!!!!!!!!

And her proclamations abt her bahut prem overnight 🤢 Cudnt she hv realized tat 2 nights earlier wen jalal was venting out?

She really has convenient timing and selective amnesia🥱

Ps: I didn't get the Chinese party joke😆 Wat is tat?

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