Jodha Akbar 212: Manna from Heaven or a mrigtrishna ? - Page 14

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Posted: 11 years ago
i hope the pilgrimage tax abolishing credit doesn't go to jo's increasing halo😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
Girls calm down.. I was pretty mad for some time then saw it another way...

Jo is spoilt..she's been spoilt at amer..she's been spoilt at agra... yes, she's faced tough times during the MC kaand and Ben (both times Jalal wasn't with her)...but, then apart from that in all other instances, she's come out successfully...and that is because of Jalal's support! And she knows it..

You know what us lovely girls and lovely kids do when our husbands/parents spoil us.. we take advantage of it and if given the chance will blame-shift/escape/evade punishment...cos we feel we have that right... haven't we ever? Well, I do when I get the chance .. 😆
I have a three year old at home and trust me that's exactly what he does too...he blames his 5 year old brother FOR EVERYTHING.. like everything😆 and in a way, its sorta cute to see...

My lil one knows he's wrong.. but he does that cos he knows how to play the cute card...

When one of my friends told me this about jodha's letter (which was totally different to what her own mind told her a day ago) its called me thinks a bit of shehenshah's tedha-pan is brushing off on her that's all.. feminine wiles at their best!

Its ok yaar.. we all do it to our hubbies/boyfriends once in a way... we know they're right and we know we've had a blame in this too..but, try and weasel our way out of it.. this long face and lil potli in her hand is all part of her 'No one loves me..fine... I'll go and sulk in a corner'

Don't take it too much to heart.. the guy himself isn't doing so at this point cos he knows one of the reason for her walking away is not the agnipariksha and all she knows she's a bit guilty and he knows she's a bit guilty...she knows he's a bit guilty and he knows he's mega guitly...only, she's the woman and the lover run behinds her is the neeti ya 16th c mein ya 21st c mein...ya commoner ho ya shehenshah!😆

[she is a fearless maiden.. a push and a shove is not one to deter her... its her hurt ego.,..HIS ego was hurt on Friday HERS yesterday... btw, he subjected her to ten times worse during Ben..she didn't buckle then...so, why now? She'll start missing him already yaar...much like my 3 year old who starts missing our attention once he's decided to go off and sulk for a bit to show his importance!)

At this point, he wants her back that's all.. all she needs is a tight hug and a kiss and those silly sentences you'll get your wife but not Jo back will vanish like it never existed..

I don't know yaar I love these two 😆
***Lashy, all is fine and we know she is spoilt, and hope that she learns her lesson, but knowing Jodha, she might give another bashan to Jalal about, how he needs to lead a common life, and how commoners are living such a peaceful life. He shouldn't turn a saint you see😉😆, what if, he decides to donate half of his wealth to the praja.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks Divi...
Look at it this way...for her; HE IS HER FAMILY... yes, she's a bit not yet there with the passions and love...but, she's already missing him within half a day! She has no one around and now even if she did, I don't think she'd be as close to anyone at Amer as she is with him now...

For him; despite having ALL of his family around him, SHE IS HIS ONLY family ...Salima is Atgah's sister...Ruqaiyya is MA's daughter...and HB is Jo's mother 😆... so yes his only fun times are with Jo!

Yes Mandy.. and as for the jaziya lets wait and watch...😛😛

Even yesterday at the well scene, she was in praise of him and rightfully so... she knows even if it was her ideas/influence without his power/will/broad-mindedness it wouldn't happen...for all of her Rajvanshi dialogues, I haven't seen her praising her dad/bros as she does him...she knows he is super special!😉 Look at the bright side girls!
(Actually, wasn't it Sandhya who'd made this point a couple of days ago..she seemed to answer it yesterday...)

After all that supporting, she then realized...'Omg I supported him? How dare I? and went back to sitting and sulking...I'm not supporting someone who's been so bad with me! I have to be angry at least for some more time!' and she wiped a tear or two😆

Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

***Lashy, all is fine and we know she is spoilt, and hope that she learns her lesson, but knowing Jodha, she might give another bashan to Jalal about, how he needs to lead a common life, and how commoners are living such a peaceful life. He shouldn't turn a saint you see😉😆, what if, he decides to donate half of his wealth to the praja.

Technically, that's already been done and HE'D shown her that bit during Badal Kajri...

Yaar, her acting up like the responsible one (when she's not throwing tantrum like she did yesterday) and advising others is something that's part of her.. she did so to some random kaka-sa yesterday..tho Jalal fir bhi uska apna hai...😉

kiya hai pyaar tho ab baitke sun bhi... 😆
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Lashy: Salima's Atgah's sister? How did you come up with that?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: divyavm

@Lashy: Salima's Atgah's sister? How did you come up with that?


I meant official advisor 🤣 ok maybe a poor comparison but these days Salima's expressions and statements are also becoming quite repetitive and monotone...
nevertheless, both are good souls...😆 bless em!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Girls calm down.. I was pretty mad for some time then saw it another way...

Jo is spoilt..she's been spoilt at amer..she's been spoilt at agra... yes, she's faced tough times during the MC kaand and Ben (both times Jalal wasn't with her)...but, then apart from that in all other instances, she's come out successfully...and that is because of Jalal's support! And she knows it..

You know what us lovely girls and lovely kids do when our husbands/parents spoil us.. we take advantage of it and if given the chance will blame-shift/escape/evade punishment...cos we feel we have that right... haven't we ever? Well, I do when I get the chance .. 😆
I have a three year old at home and trust me that's exactly what he does too...he blames his 5 year old brother FOR EVERYTHING.. like everything😆 and in a way, its sorta cute to see...

My lil one knows he's wrong.. but he does that cos he knows how to play the cute card...

When one of my friends told me this about jodha's letter (which was totally different to what her own mind told her a day ago) its called me thinks a bit of shehenshah's tedha-pan is brushing off on her that's all.. feminine wiles at their best!

Its ok yaar.. we all do it to our hubbies/boyfriends once in a way... we know they're right and we know we've had a blame in this too..but, try and weasel our way out of it.. this long face and lil potli in her hand is all part of her 'No one loves me..fine... I'll go and sulk in a corner'

Don't take it too much to heart.. the guy himself isn't doing so at this point cos he knows one of the reason for her walking away is not the agnipariksha and all she knows she's a bit guilty and he knows she's a bit guilty...she knows he's a bit guilty and he knows he's mega guitly...only, she's the woman and the lover run behinds her is the neeti ya 16th c mein ya 21st c mein...ya commoner ho ya shehenshah!😆

[she is a fearless maiden.. a push and a shove is not one to deter her... its her hurt ego.,..HIS ego was hurt on Friday HERS yesterday... btw, he subjected her to ten times worse during Ben..she didn't buckle then...so, why now? She'll start missing him already yaar...much like my 3 year old who starts missing our attention once he's decided to go off and sulk for a bit to show his importance!)

At this point, he wants her back that's all.. all she needs is a tight hug and a kiss and those silly sentences you'll get your wife but not Jo back will vanish like it never existed..

I don't know yaar I love these two 😆
***Lashy, all is fine and we know she is spoilt, and hope that she learns her lesson, but knowing Jodha, she might give another bashan to Jalal about, how he needs to lead a common life, and how commoners are living such a peaceful life. He shouldn't turn a saint you see😉😆, what if, he decides to donate half of his wealth to the praja.

If he turns good, half of us will throw stones at his wallpaper and cry, passion passion 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
Jeanie...the temptation was too much to resist. 😃...May I add a few more?😃

Originally posted by: JeannieJA

Aunty Thank You for the PM 🤗

Oh that letter 😡 Title for that letter should be "All About Me", that was more selfish garble from Jodha than I could take. And then coming to the forum and reading about Jodha's hurt and agony in that letter. You know I went back to watch that scene, maybe she said something somewhere about his pain, his love, her fault in all this but no I couldn't even find that 😭 It was just all about her sammaan and what a bad husband Jalal has been. Then I wrote that letter down, maybe I was still missing something with all the angry defense of Jodha, but still couldn't find anything that would make me not wanna take her Kanha and run away & hide and make her run all over the place & suffer a bit 😡
Some parts in that letter really really really made Jodha seem like she has NAMD (Never Accepting Mistakes Disorder) & PBOJD (Putting Blame On Jalal Disorder).
Aunty I am gonna vent about that letter here, I hope you don't mind, I just really really have to do this 😃 So here goes:

apne pati ko bina bataye jaana apradh hoga aur woh hum nahi kar sakte the
(Really???? So idhar hi she did apradh 3 times by going to meet Suja thrice)
Point.👏

hum aapse krodhit hokar nai ja rahein hai shehenshah
(Oh goodie)
aapne hi aadesh diya tha ki hum agra chodkar chale jaaye
( No Goodie, That was too good to be true from Jodha.)
On the thunderstorm night too, Jalal ne aadesh diya tha ki tent ke andar aaye. 😉

aap shehenshah bhi hai aur hamare pati bhi aur dono hi parasthitiyon mein aapke aadesh ka paalan karna anivarya tha hamare liye
(So she wants us to believe she always listens to Jalal?? 😕)
So, was he not your pati and shahenshah on thunderstorm night.
mann mein hamare bhi hulchul thi parantu uska kaaran yeh krodh nahi tha ki hamare pati ne humpe sandeh kiya uska kaaran woh thes thi ki hum apne pati par apna vishwas na bana sake
uss thes ne humein kuch kehne nahi diya
(Eh??? What about his thes that you didn't trust him enough to tell him the truth 😡 What about being quiet coz of your Suja bhaisa's vachan, now its all Jalal's fault you were quiet?? 😡)
Really? Again Jalal is wrong?Angry

ek asha thi ki hamara uttar chahe jo ho parantu aap hamara vishwas
karenge, aap hum par sandeh nahi karenge
(😆 Here she basically just accepts to wanting him to trust her even if lies or well says anything, but Jodha aapne uttar hi kahan diya?? Trust me aap uttar deti to Jalal would have trusted you 😆)
Trust is two-way traffic madam. Did you trust him in fp track? You even linked him with a daasi and accused him of everything cheap.

yeh satya hai ki vivah ke samay aapse ghrina karte the hum parantu ghrina ke iss keechad mein prem ka kamal khila hi tha ki aapne
(So this is her love confession????? Lotus of Love had just started blooming in the keechad of hate but YOU ruined it???? 🤢 is this revenge for his love confession???)
And what about the various times when she has ruined HIS Lily of Love in the keechad of grina?

asha thi ki hamare pati ko humse kabhi prashna karne ki aavashyakta nahi padegi
(So let me do whatever I want and never feel the need to question me??)
If that was the case, then you should have asked for it as a third shart.like what Ganga asked Shantanu.

ki ek baar hamari aankhon mein jhaakenge aur unhe uttar mil jayega
(😆 did you ever try looking into his eyes everrr and if u did how could u miss his full of pain eyes on friday 😡???? )
Didn't she see SKLL in his eyes herself?Angry

parantu yeh asha aapne tod di shehenshah,
(Did she name one of her pieces of furniture Asha??? coz yea he did break that asha, bad boy Jalal 😛)
He only broke your Asha dear, you have shattered his very being. You have thrust Trishul in his being by you behaviour ever since Amer trip (except for the lovely two Kajiri days...) and are complaining of the thorn he pricked you with?

aapne woh suna jo humne kahaan
(listening to what she says is wrong too??? 😕 he can't do anything right can he?? 😆)
😆😆

shehenshah pati woh hota hai jo apni stree ki maryada ki raksha karta hai, jo uske samman ke liye ladta hai
(Jodha Begum patni woh hoti hai jo apne pati ke izzat ki raksha karti hai, jo uske maan ke liye ladti hai... should have thought of that before going off on midnight walks huh??)
Only Pati has definition and rule books. Patnis have none?😒

parantu hamare pati ne yeh hamara maan aur charitra par prashna utha diya to humein jaane ka nirnay lena pada
(I though she was leaving coz of Shehenshah and pati's aadesh. Now its her nirnay to leave coz he questioned her charitra??? 😕 saying i love him, i love him not in different episodes is confusing enough, she says 2 different things in the same letter too 😭)
Why didn't she walk out of Amer with Kanhaa and Potli when Bharmal questioned her Charitra after boatride?

pati ko parmeshwar maankar poojte hai hamare yahan
(🤣 🤣 🤣 okay still too funny 🤣🤣 kab parmeshwar maanke pooja Jodha??? kab??? hum aapse ghrina karte hai kehte samay ya tiger snack bananeka prayas karte huye ya SKLL ka aarop lagate huye??? If I treated parmeshwar like this I will either get a visit from yamrajji or manholes with no lids will pop up when I am out for walks, that is not something that I will enjoy 😆 punishment you see Jodha???)
You don't dhakka-fy Parameshwar...You don't grina Parameshwar..how is he supposed to know that from one fine day suddenly you have started looking at him as Parameshwar?

aap 7 phero ke samay diye gaye vachan bhool gaye hai jinme pehla tha ki aap sada hamara vishwas karenge, sada hamara samman karenge lekin humein pehla vachan smaran tha ki sada aapke aadesh ka paalan karenge
(na googled it 😛, no blind trust in wife in any of the saat vachans of the groom, it does say I will always be by your side in the 6th vachan of the wife, Seems like you broke it 😆sada aadesh ka paalan karenge???? really???)
This vachan part - selective vachan nibhana - was the biggest joke.

aaj aapko hamara satya pata hai aur aapko khed bhi ho raha hoga parantu prem ke dhaage mein ek baar gaant pad jaaye to woh kabhi nahi khulti
(so she knows he knows her truth and knows ki unhe khed hai, but no attempt to alleviate that khed, none whatsoever)

aapka dosh bhi nahi hai shehenshah
(Oh goodie again)
sansar ki riti yehi hai ki agni pariksha sada stree ko hi deni padti hai aur purush phir bhi uss par sandeh hi karta hai
(No goodie again, she just does not want him to let go of his guilt does she?? 😆
High sounding words to compound the guilt that gullible manOuch

hum jaa rahe hai Shehenshah, aapke bhavishya ke liye prarthna karte hai, prarthna karte hai ki jo hriday aapke paas nahi hai woh aapko mil jaaye
(So on friday this guy put his heart out there, pulled it out and showed it to her but nope she couldn't see his heart 😭 )
Wasn't he screaming about his shattered heart on Friday? Was it selective listening too?
Now for selective vision...
Earlier - Hriday-heen
After Ajmer - she made the earth-shaking discovery of his heart
Again he became heartless in fp track
When he cried for BB she again saw his heart
During Shivaani- Mirza wedding talks, when she was praising Mirza to the skies Jalal again became bad and heartless
After he inspired him to take up harem warden post and became yours obediently she saw his heart in everything
Now the heart goes missing again?
Is it his heart or the Hailey's Comet?

kyunki aap humein dhoond bhi le to bhi aap apni begum ko to paa lenge parantu Jodha ko kabhi nahi paa sakenge
Aapki, Jodha
(So if u find me you will get your wife but not me so bye from YOUR Jodha 😕 Confuse the guy some more why dont you 😆)
This stands true if his Sena comes searching...It means YOU HAVE TO COME panting and searching and sweating for me.

haaash I feel better 😆

The most strange part was that she said 'had she loved anyone else she would have done jouhar! Didn't she tell Salima that she had prem for Surya? Did that prem also die with the poor guy? Poor Surya...got beheaded for nothing...Cry
The letter was highly contradictory, worded with grandiloquent words and phrases but totally against how she has behaved so far.Confused The SW for Jalal and Jodha are two different and oppositely talented chaps for sure.
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Sandhya
Yes that letter does tempt you to sing its praises, kitni fekam faaki 😆
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I hope Jodha's SW runs away 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

Girls calm down.. I was pretty mad for some time then saw it another way...

Jo is spoilt..she's been spoilt at amer..she's been spoilt at agra... yes, she's faced tough times during the MC kaand and Ben (both times Jalal wasn't with her)...but then, apart from that in all other instances, she's come out successfully...and that is because of Jalal's support! And she knows it..

You know what us lovely girls and lovely kids do when our husbands/parents spoil us.. we take advantage of it and if given the chance will blame-shift/escape/evade punishment...cos we feel we have that right... haven't we ever...at least, subconciously? . 😆We know they're right and we know we've had a blame in this too..but, we still try and weasel our way out of it.. It's ok yaar... Well, I do when I get the chance...

I have a three year old at home and trust me that's exactly what he does too...he blames his 5 year old brother FOR EVERYTHING.. like everything😆 and in a way, its sorta cute to see...my lil one knows he's wrong.. but he does that cos he knows how to play the cute card...
this long face and lil potli in her hand is all part of her 'No one loves me..fine... I'll go and sulk in a corner'

When one of my friends told me this about jodha's letter -which was totally different to what her own mind told her a day ago - me thinks a bit of shehenshah's tedha-pan is brushing off on her that's all.. feminine wiles at their best!
She's the woman and the lover run behinds her is the neeti ya 16th c mein ya 21st c mein...ya commoner ho ya shehenshah!😆

Don't take it too much to heart.. the guy himself isn't doing so at this point cos he knows she's a bit guilty and she knows that he knows she's a bit guilty...similary, she knows he's a bit guilty and he knows that she knows he's mega guilty...dekhaa kitni confidence say she said don't send sena to search for me and all...😆


[she is a fearless maiden.. a push and a shove is not one to deter her... its her hurt ego.,..HIS ego was hurt on Friday HERS yesterday... btw, he subjected her to ten times worse during Ben..she didn't buckle then...so, why now? She'll start missing him yaar...she already does... much like my 3 year old who starts missing our attention once he's decided to go off and sulk for a bit to show his importance!]

At this point, he wants her back that's all.. all she needs is a tight hug and a kiss and those silly sentences you'll get your wife but not Jo back will vanish like it never existed..

I don't know yaar I love these two 😆

If Jo is shown as a spoilt girl who has weaselled her way out in the - go! Khati!Khatti! I won't talk with you again fashion and misses him as he misses her, and finds what life is without him, then this running away business will add to the romance of the story, but if it is only about I am faultless, you come and weep at my feet, then it will be worse than the Tasneem Track. Let us see how it is handled.😊

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