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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

Good for the show , but in real life. I would not be able to handle Agra's harem. I would start campaigning for woman rights or would end up declaring myself mentally incompetent.😆 Reality is quiet different from the show.


nice take but without the harem...what would you think of Jalal?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ngayou



Dunno abt that mental stranglehold , Radhika, hasnt Jodha always been given freedom to do as she pleases & Jalal has given in to her wishes, & even if what u say is true , isnt the viceversa true too, Jalal seems to be mentally & emotionally too very much affected by Jodha. 😊


Is the freedom which he has given to Jodha enough to balance wavering trust in her?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll


Well said,👏 a bull headed assertive feminist,who knows her mind,gets what she wants,has the brains to differentiate right from wrong and the guts to express it with not a diplomatic bone in her body...Can't think of a man who would like such a wife😆...After she has the brains,capability and guts to challenge him,better him and make him feel insecure 😉.Men mostly prefer to have wives who can massage their egos 😆😆 not wives who are one better than them 😊


Oh great answer Rock&Roll! 👏 She needed all that to stand up to a man who was exceptionally confident of his own power and capability. She was able to carve an equal footing for herself in a totally new and hostile environment. Which was more than what his other begums or even sons could do. (Ruq's standing doesn't really count because she had been handed all that on a silver platter in her childhood.)

His wavering trust could have broken a lesser wife and sent her packing to her parents' place or to suicide. But she stood her ground doggedly and faced him head on. And she ultimately won him over with her innocence and determination. The question for Jodha wasn't if he was desirable (as she was to him). She knew him only as her husband and served his fluctuating trust with unswerving loyalty.

Many of today's women wouldn't be able to live with such a husband, leave alone change him. Many of today's men wouldn't deserve such a wife who will stand by them thru thick and thin without a complaint.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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But how can she reciprocate his feelings with equal intensity when she can never be sure of his trust in her? She is also insecure about her place in his life. He doesn't need a psychiatrist. He needs to let go of his ego and have an open talk with Jodha. Only then can he resolve his confusion and make her believe he trusts her.

I can't say I trust you, so please tell me all your secrets. I have to say, I trust you and let me tell you all my secrets. Only when he reveals himself to her can he expect her to trust him and talk to him openly and then as a next step, love him deeply.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rpeez


Raksha,

Congrats! You are may be the first one so far to say he makes perfect hubby material, but is it for Jodha or you? 😆

But seriously, during all the events you listed, he was still undecided whether to trust her or not. And at that point in time, he had also been quite a boor himself. Be that as it may, post Ben track also, when Jodha is changing for the better (though she has still not become the passionate lover Jalal would want her to be, according to some), why is his trust still wavering? If you had risked your life for your husband and he still doubted you, would you still consider him perfect?


Hmmm, after risking my life maybe I would expect him to trust me, ordinarily it would need normal people 2-3 years to get doubtful, but alas, in TV land only 2 months... But, I've seen men chide their girl friends for chatting with a male friend on FB, in public😲 I am single, have always been, so I can't really comment on what should be the limit, but, I know I would never want a paranoid for a hubby, but, at the same time, I would also be careful about my own behaviour. It's not just about Jalaal, Agra isn't an island, what if commoners saw me with a random stranger in the middle of night at a lonely place. What would my husband's reputation be then?

True our leads have problem in communicating, and all this MU is because of that rather than what was the reason. If they don't communicate openly, there will always be issues. In this regard, remember Jalaal asked her about her problems. True she had a vachan to bind her now, but that may not always be the case. In his case, he tells her his problems, which allows her to give him her trademark bhaashans, but the same is usually not true about her.

I am not anti-Jodha here, as you know from my answer to Neena, but, I can't help but see a sea of change in Jalaal's character since the inception of the series.

Raksha,

Well put! Jalal has changed a lot since the initial days. So has Jodha.

Initially it took just a word from MA to make him angry with Jodha. Now he is at a stage when he is struggling within whether to trust her or not in spite of repeated incitement by MA.

Initially he could seek her forgiveness in a formal fashion and she wouldn't even be bothered by it. Now he is seeking her forgiveness at a more and more personal level because it's important for him that she accept him. And she is reciprocating too because she has accepted him, warts and all.

PS: In this particular track, both have kept their problems to themselves and not spoken to the other in spite of being asked repeatedly. So both are at fault. Regarding why Jodha has no idea about the fuss over her meeting her brother is that she is meeting her brother and wouldn't care who saw her in normal circumstances. Here she is hiding him because he is a traitor in her husband's eyes. Not for any other reason.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


But how can she reciprocate his feelings with equal intensity when she can never be sure of his trust in her? She is also insecure about her place in his life. He doesn't need a psychiatrist. He needs to let go of his ego and have an open talk with Jodha. Only then can he resolve his confusion and make her believe he trusts her.

I can't say I trust you, so please tell me all your secrets. I have to say, I trust you and let me tell you all my secrets. Only when he reveals himself to her can he expect her to trust him and talk to him openly and then as a next step, love him deeply.


😊She can never reciprocate his feelings/feel for him the way he feels for her..at least not for quite some time(in real life scenarios,not for another 10 years at least..dunno how much that means in reel life 😆 )..The baggage in her life from her past experiences with Jalal is heavy and bitter and it will take time for her. I am only saying that Jalal is hurt that she doesn't reciprocate his feelings(which is unreasonable,but Jalal will not get that)...I am not saying that she should reciprocate his feelings.

I completely agree when u say that he needs to take the first step.He has to first confide his love(yes,he has to take the initiative again)and win her trust..Onus is pretty much solely on Jalal.

As for the psychiatrist thing,i was just joking..poor guy looked so harassed in the last episode...Why even in today's episode Maham begged him(Main aapse darkhwaast karti hoon,apne dimaag par zor lagayiye 🤣).So i thought he shld seek proper counselling...😉.But logically speaking,u r right again,all he needs to do is let his ego go and talk out things with her openly and clearly...But ah,with real life experience,we all know that is easier said than done right? 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks again, Jeannie! Liked your answers. 👏

It's a very good time at which Jodha has realized she loves him. When he does see the real face of MA soon, he will need Jodha by his side to support him or he will be totally devastated.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll


😊She can never reciprocate his feelings/feel for him the way he feels for her..at least not for quite some time(in real life scenarios,not for another 10 years at least..dunno how much that means in reel life 😆 )..The baggage in her life from her past experiences with Jalal is heavy and bitter and it will take time for her. I am only saying that Jalal is hurt that she doesn't reciprocate his feelings(which is unreasonable,but Jalal will not get that)...I am not saying that she should reciprocate his feelings.

I completely agree when u say that he needs to take the first step.He has to first confide his love(yes,he has to take the initiative again)and win her trust..Onus is pretty much solely on Jalal.

As for the psychiatrist thing,i was just joking..poor guy looked so harassed in the last episode...Why even in today's episode Maham begged him(Main aapse darkhwaast karti hoon,apne dimaag par zor lagayiye 🤣).So i thought he shld seek proper counselling...😉.But logically speaking,u r right again,all he needs to do is let his ego go and talk out things with her openly and clearly...But ah,with real life experience,we all know that is easier said than done right? 😉


U r rocking and rolling today! you are may be the first person to say that Jodha is carrying the baggage of her past experiences with Jalal. which is very true.

logic is in short supply in the reel world 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0



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One more thing we ve to remember, Jalal is in love, we ve been shown that, infact most of his actions from the start has been due to this inexplicable attraction he felt for her. Jodha on the other hand, didnt display any loverlike feelings towards him though she was willing to give up her life for him. What am trying to say is Jalal s current distrust in Jodha despite the strong faith he has that she can do no wrong is because his love is unreciprocated he thinks. Love as we all know is a very volatile feeling & breeds on insecurities when it s unrequited & craves for the feeling to be returned. If Jalal distrusts Jodha even after he knows she loves him, then he deserves all the bashing & thrashing, I d say,bcos mutual love deserves lots of trust & understanding, but now his actions come out mainly bcos he feels his love isnt returned
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Posted: 11 years ago
Interesting Q.

But before one answers this there is a preceding Q that would need to be addressed - What is a 'desirable husband'? or What makes a man a 'desirable husband'? and this Q would then need to be addressed contextually - both in terms of time and space.

Then perhaps this particular Q can be called relevant.

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