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Originally posted by: amssaiyed

I have read some of his posts and i dont agree with it completely. As a Jodha Akbar couple fan he has made it very Jodha pro and directly and indirectly anti Ruqaiya which makes me not believe him at some points. I have no issues with Jodha but its just that i loved Ruqaiya earlier and want positivity for her and history definitely shows her as positive..

Originally posted by: amssaiyed

How can u be so sure that Akbar never favoured Ruqaiya? I think we can not be sure of anything of that time because nobody is part of 16 century now.

I think u people want to believe that Ruqaiya was not important and like in the serial negative beacause i do not think anybody will gain anything by falsely praising Ruqaiya.

Originally posted by: adianasr

I suggest you check the government chronicles and research papers and books on Mughal women of power which should give better information than wiki and twitter and whatever other 'OPEN' source. If you dont know, 'OPEN' web sources should never be used as they are highly unreliable.

Originally posted by: ann2012

I can ask you the same question. How are you so sure Ruq was favoured by Akbar? I suppose even you weren't a part of the 16th century. What we can believe are the different contemporary accounts and historical chronicles. Cross-reference and re-confirm the incidents in more than one account. Only then the real picture shall emerge.

When did anybody say Ruq wasn't important? She was the first wife of Akbar and a Mughal princess. These two positions themselves make her powerful in both court and harem. But the article that you have posted paints a very wrong picture. She was powerful, agreed but not THAT powerful.

The most powerful woman in Akbar's era was MUZ (Jodha). That I am sure without a doubt. Since you have read Abhay's post, you do know why I am saying this.

Many muslim bigots resented MUZ's influence over Akbar a lot. Abhay has given in a post of his that Aurangzeb closed down the royal libraries soon after his accession to 'clean stuff up'. Even I have read about it. Raising one queen's status to downplay the effect of other queen. That is what they have done. They effectively erased MUZ's mention/influence in many accounts but not all. That is why info about MUZ is so difficult to come by.

If you want to know real history, avoid blogs and articles which site no references and read Abhay's post. If you don't believe Abhay's posts, do your own digging then. And you will know what I am talking about. 😉

Originally posted by: JeannieJA

Oh so you've gone to the REFERENCES he gives in his posts for every point that he makes???? The chronicles and archives??? I prefer to believe somebody who gives me proof from believable sources, which Abhay does 😃

And none of us have anything against the REAL Ruqaiya Sultan Begum, kindly please keep her away from this. The negativity in the forum is for the REEL Ruqaiya and that's coz she is being portrayed like that .

Thanks 😊

Originally posted by: amssaiyed

I have read some of his posts and i dont agree with it completely. As a Jodha Akbar couple fan he has made it very Jodha pro and directly and indirectly anti Ruqaiya which makes me not believe him at some points. I have no issues with Jodha but its just that i loved Ruqaiya earlier and want positivity for her and history definitely shows her as positive..

Originally posted by: MaddyO

You can believe whatever you want and I WILL BELIEVE WHAT I WANT.

I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU, pasting one article from some source is NOT PROOF

Abhay has GIVEN PAGES AND PAGES OF INFORMATION QUOTING SOURCES
Abhay, Kamal, Lizzy, Syria - they have done so much to dig out information.

You can love whoever you want but you cannot negate their research.

The simple fact is AFTER JODHA and AKBAR's demise the Mugal Empire WENT BACK to rigid intolerant ways and lot of materials were destroyed or distorted, because Jodha was a Hindu.
Aurangzeb was a zealot and he did most of the damage.

Originally posted by: amssaiyed

First of all i am not claiming anything, i just shared the article because i liked Ruqaiya and when did i ever say MUZ was any less important. You guys always compare Jodha and Ruqaiya and there lies the problem. I have done research for my knowledge from Libraries about the Mughal Era but still nobody can ever claim what is truth or what can be truth and i have never claimed anything.