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Posted: 11 years ago
Ruks is not going to change even if given a second chance. So I am not for it...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

As POV , Ruku had failed to grab in first chance itself , so a question mark again whether she able to stand up for second chance , till she was Jalal's best childhood friend , and they were very close to each other ..But always in mode of friendship just a sharing words not a heartful mode..Neither Ruku never been Jalal's wife in these years..As a emperor she couldn't make recognise good as well as bad things..Just she needs her audha in first place but she never take a chance of making her life meaningful towards Jalal as a friend nor a lover and finally not as wife too..Becoz Jalal always feel alone inside his heart , he was restless and had a deep fear of loneliness ..But Jodha had filled those gaps by analysing his small holes in which he couldn't get a small piece of pleasing n refreshing soothy love which he got by Jodha..Jalal had a heart but it deeply sinked inside , but ruku not even try to recover his pricked heart in which he couldn't get tasteness of real love from past.And for ruku don't know to reciprocate his love towards Jalal then she can't b his best childhood friend nor a wife too..
Between very nice post mandy !😃



thx dear😊..and you are so right in saying that jalal was craving for that love and care which he got from jodha and now he does not feel the need of anything anymore but still that was era of polygamy and she is still his wife..at the end i want to see jalal's fairness towards all his khaas begums and ruq who lost that spot in his heart after murti kaand might have to redeem herself!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: munnirony


talking about indifference, ruku was indifferent towards jalal when he was devastated bcoz of BK's death. as maham had pointed out tht time, jalal was crying but she went out to settle harem probs. neither jodha was there tht time nor jalal was away from ruku. yes jalal didnt mind these things tht time, but today he is watching jodha, who cares for others emotions. jalal is also a human being who wants people to be with him. he had always consoled ruku whenever she was upset, but he didnt expected anything in return. so why not ruku is blamed for her indifferent attitude??? as per the balance goes its the responsibility of both, not just jalal. in those days it was the queen's responsibility was well to maintain the balance despite all the insecurity.



munni, i agree, u do have a point there!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: jodah

yes rukkaiya should be given a chance
she always been a friend to jalal more then wife
& it is said when a friend make mistakes don't forget the good things they did for you



jodah, what a beautiful one liner! u deserve a big hug🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sun29



when Jalal found out that rukku was involved in murthi kaand that is breaking mughal law...he became unfair as the Emperor to save his friend from humiliation before others...he allowed the election to continue and ruqiayya gained votes due to this yet he did not utter one word outside even though his love was on the other side...yet you want proof of jALAL being considerate to ruqaiyya???? and why he flinched coz she failed to show even an ounce of remorse for what she did inspite of Jalal telling her she dared him and fell from his eyes...she was already onto her next plan

and all those who say ruqaiyya wanted to spend time with him yet gave up the post ...she did not...she gave up the place and planned a trip with Jodha's husband to separate them and gloat it on her face...she planned nothing for her husband or her friend..and this is what jALAL found out and hence his behaviour to her

if Jalal had behaved otherwise with ruqaiya forgetting what she did a day back i would have whacked him...

and she is going to lose out on her chances and test his patience to the extreme limit before he bursts out ...for ruqaiyya to learn a lesson of life she needs to be brought down on earth

if she is his wife ...the other women are also his wife how come none protested when ruqaiyya treated them as animals...

and let us not even talk about friendship...i can write an essay on how they are not ...no one with a best friend in life would be telling everyone who can hear that how lonely he is in life ...that itself concludes he has no one indeed

and for every question about halal being a husband ,friend i can ask the same question and give the same answer...let her first be his wife and friend and whatever ruqaiyya has done for Jalal ..Jalal has done much much more for her ...so let us not even compare...

wife is a wife be it first or last...you want respect ,then give respect...am wondering if Jalal is also responsible for how she treated Salima beghum too???

i have always empathised with ruqaiyya but i refuse to be partial to her coz Jalal is in love with Jodha...

if Jalal did not make an effort with ruqaiyya the same holds for her as well...

everyday ,every time a man is not wrong ...and relationship consists of two not one person can make or break a relationship...

and Jalal will never dump Ruqaiyya ..he may get angry with her but he will never dump her ...yes she will lose her hold in his life and that is coz she allowed herself to be led astray ...but he will never desert her ...maybe that will teach her to value him more



sun, good points! its just like when a mother has three children, there is always a situation when one outshines the other two and that one gets more attention and care which makes the other two think that their mother loves that one child more and jealousy creeps up even among the siblings..here jodha is that one child that has outshined his many begums even the one who stood first in class all the time...as they say everything is fair in love and war ruq is playing a game of chess here to redeem her position back in jallu's eyes and that is what is irking jalal! either ruq has to mend her ways or there has to be a third path that might resolve the situation because she is still his wife and she is very much a part of the family..and how can one ignore family..u can choose friends but u have to live with the family members the way they are regardless of their negativeness!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Ruks is not going to change even if given a second chance. So I am not for it...



hmmm..it all depends on cvz..jalal cannot completely ignore her or disown her as she is very much a part of the family..when a family member has his or her weaknesses is it a good idea to cut that member off completely or give her/him a chance to redeem?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Cleo12345


Let us be fair and not forget that she saved Jodha's life twice. First, during the MC track and second, Jodha's suicide track. She was the first one to tell Jalal that Jodha was capable of ending her life
Therefore, I always gave her the benefit of the doubt...till post Ben track. if good ( Ruku is not good but grey to begin with) people make one mistake after another...and refuse to learn from their mistakes, they need to be dealt firmly. ...they can't be forgiven for hurting people because of their past deeds...does this theory apply in real life. If a saint commits a murder, does he deserve to be pardoned...no. Therefore, I can understand Jalal indifference towards her.



a very good point cleo..funny, my son says the same thing if i tell him to be tolerant😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: neelkamal

mandy,

when did she loose first chance anyway ? jalal was angry for murti fiasco that's all .in friday's episode
and thursday episode she revealed her thoughts why she voted for jodah . because she thinks jalal is growing closer to jodah .by giving her harem duty .she will again try to come closer to him .and jodah cannot handle harem .and she can win both back .i did not see anything wrong in her thinking .she is in sync with her grey character . i am curious how jalal handles this situation

i did not get you u want jalal to give love to ruq as he loves jodah ?



😆..even i am confused in the end of it all!..just joking! what i want is that since jalal has found his new love in jodha he should not ignore his responsibilities as ruq's husband..after all she is his first wedded wife!..i want ruq to rationalize the situation on her own..weigh her losses and gains and then decide at the end what exactly she wants..at the end of it all ruq is very well a part of the family and she deserves and demands jalal's attention towards her..we all know her gray shades but then everybody is different and no one can be perfect!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

Yes, Ruqaiya is plan old annoying, irritating as hell, and dumb at times. Still, she deserves a second chance. Yes, at times she makes want me punch my screen. Take that red lipstick,and smirk of her face. Smack my head how an earth a intelligent and intellectual woman can be used as a puppet by MA. Still, i say she deserves a second chance. You know why??? She has a good heart inside. There has been a lot of circumstances to prove it. I believe the woman can be redeemed.



very well said..i agree with you👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: munnirony

well honestly so much confusions r bcoz of the CVs themselves r confused about ruku's portrayal. during fake pregnancy track it was clearly showed tht ruku slapped hoshiyar bcoz he suggested her to kill jodha's baby. ruku prayed for jodha when she was on death bed. but at the same time she was shown behaving rudely with each nd evry wife of jalal. while smiley's ruku was shown as smart but sensitive, but as soon as lavina's ruku entered she was shown insensitive towards jalal's tears for BK death. on one hand, ruku is the one who always warned jalal against maham, but on the other hand she is listening to maham blindly. just as jalal's characterization have been inconsistent, ruku's characterization have been inconsistent as well. so we can argue about jalal & ruku, but the truth is due to the inconsistencies things will always remain like this.😕



i second u on that! inconsistencies of characters has been in this serial since 90 people walked out..i too miss smiley as ruq!..she was different and had something special in her..she was bringing ruq's character beautifully..although lavina is not a bad actress but something is missing!

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