I HATED EPISODE - Page 10

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Mads, where r u? (sorry for calling u Mads)... why gaayab from ur own thread?

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

No Maddy, i didn't misunderstand ur feelings.. u misunderstood my words... when i said, this will bring JJ close, i never thought of their romance... see , by asking Jalal's vote for Ruku, Jo won Jalal's trust and respect... it showed in his actions, that he values her words, her thoughts and opinions... and basically , Jo wanted the title for betterment of the subjects, the harem women... and now when she has gained respect in his eyes, won his trust, then had she lost, till she would have got her work done by him... so when she asked him and Salima to vote for Ruku, she has won their unconditional support for her actions... She has proved herself true winner in every aspect...

Originally posted by: realitybites

Yes it was disappointment for all of us who really love the show. And that is the sad part that the JA script writers team care a damn🤢.

Today's episode was pathetic the way they showed Jodha winning. All the ridiculous play behind the scenes. First the writers themselves push Jodha through begams and Jalal to become Harem head and then they themselves make Jodha garner votes of Salima and Jalal for Ruq😕. If you were so sensitive why did you stand up to her?🤪 Ridiculous. Why does Jodha have to ask votes for Ruq from Jalal and Salima? why did she stand from election then? What was the motivating speech Jalal gave? Why did the Harem women look upto Jodha as their humane head? The whole election is now a farce.🤢 After all this, Jodha votes for herself?😳. Sad to say but this is pure masochism by SWs.

It is becoming more and more obvious that there are multiple SWs who keep writing random scenes. Since they are competing with each other, they often end up contradicting each other. Thereby the execution leads to such major flaws and the show suffers.

The creative bankruptcy of the SWs have ruined the Tarazu scene too😭😡.

What on earth is Ekta doing? Wasn't this her dream project?

The whole point of Jodha telling Jalal that she does not want to come in between Jalal-Ruq is flawed. Since its polygamy, this will always be there. If this warranted such significance then Jodha should forget that she is wife of Jalal. The whole point is so stupid- 3rd person in between? Jalal had earlier tried to explain her that he decides whom he likes and there can be no complains. This was the norm at that time. How can a love story ever start this way, since this will point is forever remain till Ruq is alive and she outlived both of them!!😆😆. Jodha should then repent having feelings for Jalal? She should not serve him or care for him too. Is that not coming in between?

Surely script writers have gone crazy and are writing episodes randomly. 🤢

Originally posted by: Joja

Arent they going back to square one.

We were happy thinking Jalal wants Jodha to come out of the feeling that she is coming inbetween Jalal-Ruq. We were happy that she is coming out of that feeling.

But what did we see... Why did she take a U turn.

This story cant go liek this. Understand its a love story but there need to be some logic. Along with it. its just not some love story but this has some history too. they are king/queen.. CV's please bear this in mind. Its just not Jalal-Jodha-Ruq story.. Keep Akabr, the great in mind. Just for the sake of getting a villian, love dont spoil Akbar's image.

I am disappointed with Jalal because he voted to Ruq coz Jodha asked. Then why did he give all the bhashan about her hunar, her responsibilities, indaaf ka tarazu .. why did he ask her to challenge in the first place. when she asked him to choose Ruq for friendship.. where did he insaaf as a king go? Did Jodha forget about the slavery in Haram, the reason which made her to take challenge?

Originally posted by: MaddyO

No Sandhya you are misunderstanding me, and when you presume to say why I would have hated it you are assuming how I would think!!!

I did not like because BOTH Jalal and Jodha DID not care about the Haram, the women who came to Jalal and Jodha expecting for a change in their situations, who were hoping for a better and decent life.

they both took care of Harem... coz just as i said in other post, had Jo lost it, still now since she has gained his trust , he would certainly have given Jo anything she will ask for... and Jo can always use it for betterment of ppl...

By trying to show Jodha mahan and Jalal blindly listening to Jodha and even Salima THEY all came across THEY CARED MORE FOR RUKAYYA than the people 5,000 of them who as a Shehenshah and his intelligent kind Begum were looking to them for justice.

we can't say entire harem wanted Jo... half of them wanted ruku.. and Jalal didn't blindly listen Jo.. he was first angry with her for asking for his vote... only after hearing the entire thing, he did as she wanted... but here both won ... as if Jo had lost, still Jalal would have done what she wanted, and that would have been bigger insult to Ruku...

By this SHAM of voting the CVs made LEADS LOOK LIKE FOOLS, who CARE more about pampering an arrogant woman who would have after winning BECOME EVEN MORE VINDICTIVE towards the haram women, who did not vote for her.

they r not pampering anybody... Jo just made sure Jalal doesn't go away from his relationship with Ruku... coz had Jalal supported Jo openly, Ruku wld have been more dangerous... now since Jalal have been suspecious of Ruku, and understands Jo's purity and selflessness, he will keep watch on Ruku's actions, and will support Jo...

Rukayya WHO WILL NOW THINK it is OK with Jalal HOW much BADLY she behaves HE WILL ALWAYS ignore it. Rukayya who IS GOING TO BE MORE ARROGANT AND PATHETIC.

let her... this way she will degrade herself more in his eyes...

Did Jalal as a Shehenshah NOT care about the haram women? What about Jodha - did SHE care about the 5,000 women OR ONLY RUKAYYA.

Jo saved them from Ruku, by asking Jalal to stay by Ruku's side...ignored Ruku would have been more dangerous and harmful

I DID NOT LIKE THE EPISODE because to STROKE Rukayya's EGO BOTH JALAL AND JODHA FAILED IN THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TOWARDS the HARAM WOMEN - THEN WHY HAVE THE SHAM OF AN ELECTION?

no AkDha didn't fail... both won... now they will stand by eachother and support eachother ... election was fair... nobody can say, they were not given choice.. even Ruku can't complain now...

Did Jalal think by voting for Rukayya he was letting down those who came to him for a better life in haram? Did Jodha and Salima THINK they are letting down these 5,000 women?

no... half of the harem voted for Ruku...

I HATED IT BECAUSE BOTH JALAL AND JODHA LOOKED LIKE FOOLS AND PATHETIC PEOPLE WHO FOR PAMPERING AN ARROGANT WOMEN LEFT 5,000 in the LURCH without ANY THOUGHT FOR THEM.

again i say, they pampered Ruku's ego , just to make her less harmful... both came out as winner...

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

If I may guess why u hated the epi maddy, was it that jo won courtesy ruq. Had jalal voted the decider in favor of jo stating her goodness and ruqs failure as reason you might have liked it better?😉😆

But I disliked it for a different reason. It was totally senseless. If ruqs really wanted jo to win why the moorthi fiasco? And her reasons for the her 'chaal' was pathetic. She looked fit for a psycho session. ... not a queen experienced in siyaasat.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

EXACTLY - Please read the reply I have written to Sandhya - above.

Jalal and Jodha FAILED as Shehenshah and Begum today - they failed the 5,000 women to pamper the ego of one vindictive arrogant woman.

By writing this way the writers HAVE made Jalal and Jodha look fools and uncaring about anybody but THEMSELVES not certainly for the haram

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

I agree...The CVs probably have two reasons for doing this

1. They are so obsessed with 'shocking ' the viewers and then patting their backs at the 'achievement' that they sometimes let go of logic.
Exactly - they just did not understand how much they messed with Jalal and Jodha and even Salima characters today!

2. Gives them a reason for more Harem related tracks. I think they are preping Rukkiya to step into MA's shoes as the the dirty dark vamp since they can't delay MA exit for very long.

But they could have showed Jodha winning differently or EVEN Jalal voting for Rukayya - say when he knew Jodha was winning to make Ruk feel better. This way they actually harmed Rukayya cos she will feel however I behave Jalal will stand by me! If Rukayya is going to be vamp anyway why weaken JJ characters for her???

They are short sighted, just like Rukkiya. Too much negativity may bring an initial rise in TRP's but in the long run, if three out of five episodes in a week are boring and illogical, some people wont mind missing a few episodes here and there, thus, easier for them to quit when their patience runs out. I do this...i only watch the ones that you guys recommend. Skip the rest for lack of time. I was just talking to my mom who watches a lot of other Hindi serials. She brought up a few examples. Don't want to name the serial, but another one on the same channel which was popular for months lost viewers for the same reason. Too many villains...always getting away with their chaals, hero and heroine are clueless victims and are not able to get married for one chaal/MU or another. The cute and bubbly heroine and the hunk hero have less screen time than the villains . Massive drop in Trps...they are unable to recreate the magic now.

Yes EXACTLY, they are ruining a wonderful show. This is PATHETIC writing and somebody did not pay attention. There are MORE villians and vamps here than LEADS HAVE CLOTHES. Too much negativity, do the CVs want viewers to watch and enjoy or HATE it.

They are becoming too arrogant THESE WRITERS.

Regarding JA, disappointing end to the track but I want to stay positive.

1. With her new responsibilities, Jodha has less time to spend with Jalal...but she has more reasons to go and see him now. Same for him. Can't wait for him to make up excuses to discuss matters and summon her. I think that our emporer will not run away from harem politics anymore.

2. This is Jodha's second step ( being khas begum was first) towards the desirable rank of Malika. She getting powerful and will be making important decisions. People will start seeing her a a leader.

3.Rukkiya thinks that reponsibilities make a person unpopular ...not always. It really depends on the person. No matter how inexperienced jodha is, she will still do better than Rukkiya. She is intellegent, kind hearted, very talented and fair.

4. Rukkiya probably thinks that this made her look grand...I don't think anyone in Agra will buy it. People don't change overnight. Most will be able to see through it. Infact who knows that Jalal, Hamida and Salima may become more protective towards Jodha.

Thanks Cleo for writing these positives. I feel better reading them. I am sure Jodha will be successful and we might get slowed love story.

BB...I won't say anything about her except that Jodha should learn something from this. She needs to borrow some tedapan from her husband.

BB is the most pathetic character of JA, she is ungrateful and stupid and selfish.

Jodha will probably get bashed for letting Sujamal escape. To me, this is consistent with her character. She has forgiven people for bigger 'crimes'. She has high morals but is also a human being. And a loving sister. Throwing a brother in a lion's den is not easy. The brother who risked his life to check on her well being. To me, it would have been a very inhumane on her part. How many times can she ask Jalal to pardon someone? And, i am sure that deep down she knows that Sujamal could not have done something like this. Hasn't she seen enough conspiracies in Agra?

Got to go..will catch up later😊

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Diksha I agree with every word of yours. Today Jodha gained Jalal and Salima's trust even more. She can get him to do anything (atleast till MA plays her MU) but THEY BOTH FAILED as Shehenshah and Begum who Haramites were looking to for justice.

As people they came out better, as king and queen no.

Jalal looked surprised when Ruk voted for Jodha, so he was expecting Ruk will vote for herself and Ruk will win - then what about haram women? Did both Jodha and Jalal and even Salima show any care for their conditions?

If Rukayya had won - do you think she will have AGAIN let Jodha run interference in haram? Then would all 3 of them not have failed these women?

How by becoming weak and foolish in pampering an arrogant vindictive woman do the king and queen do justice to 5,000 women? Are they not playing around with their lives in their mahanata?