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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

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Jalal at the mazhar and astral scene ... swept away 90% of our anger at him in ben track na. It brought out his state of mind and emotional turmoil resp for crass behaviour and mental paralysis during ben track. Even those who were boiling at jallu melted down considerably. The ben track for its irritating stretch did wind up well though with a lot of drama.

May be he will have an emotional convo with ruqs after she reaches the nadir which will explain his behavior to her so far. That is what I gathered from that guy's words. He was ready to swear that ruqs is certainly a good character whatever she does is out of a deep love. She is not evil but will commit more blunders and jalal will sort it out with her amiably. The main characters will not be compromised and ruqs will not be let down finally.. ( what about jallu's semi-active semi-hibernating brains😭)

Don't know if he was lying as I accused of jallu as a bad friend but if he was then he is an expert liar as he sounded to know the story from the start very well and sounded so genuine.



Mandy
As for jalal getting back his old smarts I feel the chances are zilch. It is serial world where it has to be jai jo..







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after Tuesday's episode i have full faith on jallu😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ariel

Since I haven't watched in eons I am just taking a shot in the dark here:

Gayatri, it's not so much about him making those remarks in passing as it is about him understanding her. Can we watch our best friends self destruct and then go about romancing someone else in peace ? They were like two sides of the same coin. Where is jalals pain ? Shouldnt he be in pain to see what ruku has been reduced to ? Shouldn't he say where at you getting these ideas from? Why are you dong this ? When has he ever acknowledged that she loves him but he doesn't love her back. ? Where is his guilt ? For a man as sensitive as jalal is I would definitely expect some guilt . The thing is he still hasn't understood why ruk is doing all this . It needs more than a passing remark. He needs to tell her that it hurts him to see her so. Only then will she stop . The time for him to be irritated with her is long gone. Now seeing the depth to which has stooped has to hurt him. Not irritate , this is not a child's game. My two cent :)



Hi Ariel,

Agree with what u say , but only if in the case that Ruq is in love with Jalal. Only Smiley ki Ruqs gave signs of that . The current Ruqs has never shown signs of love nor has she shown any sensitivity towards Jalal when he was in distress. She tended to believe his 'humara paas dil nahi hain' statement & acted accordingly. Seeing this, am also tempted to think that RuqLal s friendship was more of the brains & less on sensitivity from both sides. Cant give any other explanation, especially seeing that an usually perceptive Jalal has never managed to find out that Ruq was in love with him all these years. So where s the room for the guilt, hurt etc... 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago

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Hi Ariel,

Agree with what u say , but only if in the case that Ruq is in love with Jalal. Only Smiley ki Ruqs gave signs of that . The current Ruqs has never shown signs of love nor has she shown any sensitivity towards Jalal when he was in distress. She tended to believe his 'humara paas dil nahi hain' statement & acted accordingly. Seeing this, am also tempted to think that RuqLal s friendship was more of the brains & less on sensitivity from both sides. Cant give any other explanation, especially seeing that an usually perceptive Jalal has never managed to find out that Ruq was in love with him all these years. So where s the room for the guilt, hurt etc... 😕



Gayatri one episode with a love statement and a few tears shed do not an urequitted love make!!!

I have not seen anything remotely love like or for that matter friendship like from Ruqs as presented by both actresses - maybe my definitions of love and friendship are different - to me Ruqs has all along seemed a woman who had managed to grab the attention of a warrior emperor through her sexuality and intelligence - but once done she never did put an effort to build on it - as I have said elsewhere - Ishq me kisi ko paane ki nahin, khud ko khone ki arzoo rakho, kyunki paa jaaoge toh kimat ghat jaati hai, par jab khud ko kho doge to khud ko aur khuda ko paa jaoge
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: happygolucky099



frankly speaking as a viewer even i m not aware of ruku's love for jalal🤔


Do we ever jatha-fy our love to our mothers? Sometimes we are insensitive to her too shout at her and angry if we feel she favours someone else... say a cousin over us in some matter. But that does not mean that you don't love your mom. You tend to take for granted something that you are accustomed to since childhood and believe that it will be always there for you.

This is what both ja and ruq are doing to each other so far. Their biggest problem and biggest strength is their long association with each other.

I expected a little more understanding from jalal as he has of late displayed a lot of it to jo and others too and has become nyay-priya. And he has a share in turning ruqs against jo right from the start of the show.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Mandy

I didn't ask about jallu's brains and jo's halos. As I thought that is is a surety.😭
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


Do we ever jatha-fy our love to our mothers? Sometimes we are insensitive to her too shout at her and angry if we feel she favours someone else... say a cousin over us in some matter. But that does not mean that you don't love your mom. You tend to take for granted something that you are accustomed to since childhood and believe that it will be always there for you.

This is what both ja and ruq are doing to each other so far. Their biggest problem and biggest strength is their long association with each other.

I expected a little more understanding from jalal as he has of late displayed a lot of it to jo and others too and has become nyay-priya. And he has a share in turning ruqs against jo right from the start of the show.



jalal encouraged ruku to continue her hatred
but ruku developed the hatred for jodha by herself
in their 2nd meeting in harem when ruku insulted jo jalal was no where in picture
she insulted jodha for first time without jalal's interference
Edited by happygolucky099 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Pride rudeness possessiveness are all certainly negative traits, but do not make you evil or unworthy of loving or being loved. You don't have to be an ultra-perfectionist to be capable of loving or being loved either. Neither do you jave to be a shaayar or chant hamein prem hai. 'Keemthi cheez' seems to be anothe nail. But if a person's words alone are what defines them then the most glib talkers will be the best humans.
Snape was among the dark arts, was on voldemort's side called lily a mudblood once, his manners invited everyone's displeasure, was a brooding introvert, but his love for lily is classical/epic.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

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<font size="2">Gayatri one episode with a love statement and a few tears shed do not an urequitted love make!!!</font>

<font size="2">I have not seen anything remotely love like or for that matter friendship like from Ruqs as presented by both actresses - maybe my definitions of love and friendship are different - to me Ruqs has all along seemed a woman who had managed to grab the attention of a warrior emperor through her sexuality and intelligence - but once done she never did put an effort to build on it - as I have said elsewhere - Ishq me kisi ko paane ki nahin, khud ko khone ki arzoo rakho, kyunki paa jaaoge toh kimat ghat jaati hai, par jab khud ko kho doge to khud ko aur khuda ko paa jaoge</font>



More or less what am saying, Adiana , about Ruq s love/nonlove for Jalal .and ur quote on love, the last lines, it doesnt apply to Ruq s certainly , but to Jalal it does seem to reflect. But my big question is , does Jodha s words & deeds mostly display any of these either with regard to Jalal
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Posted: 11 years ago
Ariel
Sorry. Z guys are what aunty would call- diplomatic. They seem to have given a different set of answers to Ela. So I withdraw my request to you to come back.😕
The only common statement is Ruqaiya will make mistake after mistake and not clever ones either. So PLEASE stick to your Rang-Rasiya.😊
JA undoubtedly is just another ordinary serial with the perfect-heroine and poodle-hero in royal costumes.😭
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Ariel

Sorry. Z guys are what aunty would call- diplomatic. They seem to have given a different set of answers to Ela. So I withdraw my request to you to come back.😕
The only common statement is Ruqaiya will make mistake after mistake and not clever ones either. So PLEASE stick to your Rang-Rasiya.😊
JA undoubtedly is just another ordinary serial with the perfect-heroine and poodle-hero in royal costumes.😭



sandhya pl read my post on poodle and see what you have to say😭

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