Bhagavat in harem sets stage for Ruq vs Jodha match! - Page 2

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

I hope this incident forces Ruks to change and understand and have a cordial relation with Jodha..

Personally I do not want Ruks to win. AM sure Jodha will not accept this position..

Originally posted by: akdha

HI Mansi, nice debatable post 😃. i feel the headache for Jalal will happen surely after this match😆 my thinking on these questions will be, the big ultimate climax of a power held woman(either ruq or maham) will come to an end, wih a heavy explosion

Originally posted by: akdha-fan

Why do I have a feeling that maybe Salima may have some major role in this "Bagawat"... Not that I'm too good at predicting, but I think maybe Jalal will choose Salima or something, or maybe Jo will ask Salima to also become a voting candidate...

Personally, I want Jodha to win, but I think if the CVs show that Ruks is stripped off of her title, then considering the type of person she is, she may even try to commit suicide, or even murder... Also, it would feel as though Jalal has forgotten his old relations for new ones...

Originally posted by: prejudiced

I did not like the episode today as it was an overdose of harem politics saving grace was the precap.

One thing that did make me wonder - it was an era of polygamy...But everyone where talking as though the only option was Mazar to marry one or the other...

why not mazar marry both?😆😆😆

Originally posted by: preeti.r

Beautiful analysis Mansi ,

On salim Chisti prophecy making Jalal more inclined towards Jo , I too am of the same opinion.

But if ever he blurts out that as one of the reason for his interest in her, there will be a MU. Because JO will think of it as the only reason for him to like her as usual she won't be listening to his further explanations.

Yes that's true. he should never say that openly to Jodha or she will suspect that he is trying to make the prophecy true and is not genuinely in love with her!

Regarding BEK

I think Ruqs will be Mughal sultanate's BEK and JO will be Jalal's Khas begum.

I think Jodha will successfully teach Ruqaiyya a lesson and not accept to be the BEK and give it to Ruqaiyya..

If there is a vote and JO wins her giving it back to Ruqs will be wrong from her moral POV as the harem has entrusted the reins in her hand against Ruqs how can she now give it back to Ruqs.

So in my opinion either JO will influence Jalal into making Ruqs BEK, considering her exprience and seniority also giving a reason that she isn't aware of the handlings of the harem thus excusing herself.

Or

Jalal himself will decide on Ruqs being incharge of the Harem not sure of the reson but maybe by then sujamal has reached Agra and there is a MU between JOJA.

Regarding Ruksana-Mazaar-Aziza

I want there to be a Akbar Birbal kind of justice ,

wherein Jalal asks the guards to punish Mazhar for having duped both the women and that's when Aziza who loves him says let him marry Ruksana please don't punish him. Whereas Ruksana is happy saying he deserves the punishment.

Seeing this Jalal stops the punishment and gives a justice favouring Mazhar and Aziza. JO happy ,Ruqs fuming , Jalal torn between his two wives. ...😆

Originally posted by: abhi786

Today episode is nothing there but stage set for MU... I think there will be no elections but Jalaal may get to know that haram people now wants Jodha as BEK to rule haram and I think before he decide who will run the haram he would personally will talk to each one...

Ruqu will tell Jalaal, how she handle haram all these years & she is BEK it's her right and he has to decide now and how can JO being a mere begum can equal with her...Jalaal will feel dis interested...

Jodha will tells Jalaal, she doesn't want BEK or anything, but want justice on Mazhar love should win and also bandi should also have a chouce ( abolish of salvary) ...Jo says that she is not interested 7 doesn't know their needs are anything ...He should announce Ruqu as BEK as she is managing it for many years ... Jalaal will be impressed...

I think he will announce ruqqu as BEK, but will tell from now on wards Jodha as Khaas Begum and how she herself didn't want to rule BEK... I think MA will instigate jalaal choose her because JO is not interested & not in the race...

Originally posted by: sreev12

Hi Mansi, good debatable points!

I felt the epi as a filler with some stage setting done to accommodate the ME.

This confusion b/w BgmEKhass / KhaasBgm was thr in my mind initially but when I saw both words used interchangeably I thgought both mean the same at some point ... but there came a qsn to my mind abt ruk's title etc .. aah I am curious to see some inputs around this from our history geeks ... Abhay, Kamal, Jodah ... etc

Coming to Ruk/Jodha harem mtr: Somehow I feel ruk regains her harem mgmt pwrs (not by Jo winning it & sacrificing it bck to ruk as I dnt feel this convincing) ...
may be Jo tells Jal to let the harem rights be with ruks itself as ruks is more deserving cand & she just wanted nyaay & not the pwr?
may be this time Jal himself lv the rights with ruks but just handle the current issue hearing the concerns from both the parties?
I somehow still feel BEK will be ruks but KhaasBgm for Jal would be Jo ...

I see sujamal's visit to Agra / Harem issues around at same time have some critical connectivity - may be +ve or -ve ...

I think what CVs mean by "Begum-e-khaas" here is the lady who governs the harem and "Khas Begum" is the title which is shared by all three of them. Bdw if I'm not wrong Ruqu has always called her BEK or MEH and not Khas Begum. This Khas begum concept was Jalal's and later Maham addressed the three with same title during Tasneem Track. But now as per Ruqu BEK and Khas Begum are different as long as the harem responsibility is considered. So if Jodha wins the election (This is really weird! I cannot think of general elections in an age of Monarchy 😕) will she be bestowed upon the title BEK ? If we think practically Jalal should not even let the elections happen! I do not think all those 5000+ begums and kaneez has any right to choose their head. Ruqu has managed the harem very well till now and that's why Jalal never had to pay any extra attention to the harem affairs! If the ladies of harem and Jodha thinks the democratic views can bring peace in harem then it is not possible as we are talking about ladies 😆. Jokes apart, I do not think Jodha can rule and manage the harem with her forgiving nature, not right now! she has a long way to go before handling the political affairs which Ruqu is very much used to being part of it since childhood. Now if Jalal agrees for this elections then I will not blame Ruqaiya scolding and ranting him for being partial towards Jodha. This one Mazhar matter should be resolved in DEA which then does not require the harem head to be changed and if the begums are pissed off because of Ruqu's behaviour then Jalal can just advice Ruqu to be more patient while dealing with them. The Baandi issue actually does not even need to be resolved as the law supports multiple marriages and there is no question of income as the Baandi's must be getting some salary being part of harem so Mazhar can support two earning wives! When Ruqu and Jodha both does not know what Mazhar wants then fighting over who should Mazhar marry is height of ignorance and childish thing. I'm quite disappointed with this track as they are mixing up Monarchy with Democracy!