27th Feb JA JO - REAL headache Vs EXAGGERATED headaches!ModNt 13 - Page 7

Originally posted by: history_geek

I feel before making such comments on any particular community, high degree of maturity should be displayed. 😊

What they are showing or not, it's for "BOTH" the clans.

But speaking openly and in such a sense, does not convey a correct meaning. 😕

Regarding Rajputs, they were inducted by Akbar in his service HIMSELF, and he spent 1556-1580 almost 24 years in controlling them, when he was in his PRIME..!..And, his could finally settle in 1585-86.

I won't write more. But something on POLITICAL FRONT only.

I feel the CV's are portraying "serial" Akbar with DECENCY on this political front ATLEAST .
Infact, they have shown him fine till now.


As for Rajputs winning the land for Akbar, it was the Rajputs who assisted in the most dangerous campaigns, especially from North-West. . Be it Gujarat, Bengal, Kabul, Lahore, etc. etc. more are there.
Later, many MAIN CRITICAL subahs were under their subedari.
BTW, Rajputs and Akbar relations are well known.
6 generations of Amer clan fought for Mughals, despite Aurangzeb's indifference to an extent.

As for jawai sa,😉 it was Bhagwan Das who saved his life in Battle of Paronkh, risking his own life.
Also, another Rajput Raja also lost his life in this battle as he fell short of supplies, but did not leave his front.

And, later in 1574-75 around it was Man Singh who repeated this act.
In the battle of Gujarat/Sarnaala, it was Bhagwan Das who stood side by side with Akbar in entire battle, and Man Singh who led the forces.


Finally, atleast they were better than following:

Adham Khan
Munim Khan
Shahabuddin
Maham Anga
Mahachuchak Begum
Mirza Hakim
Abul Maali
More are there, don't remember now.😆

Atleast Akbar got loyalty in Rajputs, which he RARELY got in his most close relations.😆
I have more examples, but this was just to highlight some neglected points.😉

I have no issues,😆 but writing all this today, because this was NOT first such type comment, which i read today, and left a bad taste.😕

Originally posted by: history_geek

I feel before making such comments on any particular community, high degree of maturity should be displayed. 😊

What they are showing or not, it's for "BOTH" the clans.

But speaking openly and in such a sense, does not convey a correct meaning. 😕

Regarding Rajputs, they were inducted by Akbar in his service HIMSELF, and he spent 1556-1580 almost 24 years in controlling them, when he was in his PRIME..!..And, his could finally settle in 1585-86.

I won't write more. But something on POLITICAL FRONT only.

I feel the CV's are portraying "serial" Akbar with DECENCY on this political front ATLEAST .
Infact, they have shown him fine till now.


As for Rajputs winning the land for Akbar, it was the Rajputs who assisted in the most dangerous campaigns, especially from North-West. . Be it Gujarat, Bengal, Kabul, Lahore, etc. etc. more are there.
Later, many MAIN CRITICAL subahs were under their subedari.
BTW, Rajputs and Akbar relations are well known.
6 generations of Amer clan fought for Mughals, despite Aurangzeb's indifference to an extent.

As for jawai sa,😉 it was Bhagwan Das who saved his life in Battle of Paronkh, risking his own life.
Also, another Rajput Raja also lost his life in this battle as he fell short of supplies, but did not leave his front.

And, later in 1574-75 around it was Man Singh who repeated this act.
In the battle of Gujarat/Sarnaala, it was Bhagwan Das who stood side by side with Akbar in entire battle, and Man Singh who led the forces.


Finally, atleast they were better than following:

Adham Khan
Munim Khan
Shahabuddin
Maham Anga
Mahachuchak Begum
Mirza Hakim
Abul Maali
More are there, don't remember now.😆

Atleast Akbar got loyalty in Rajputs, which he RARELY got in his most close relations.😆
I have more examples, but this was just to highlight some neglected points.😉

I have no issues,😆 but writing all this today, because this was NOT first such type comment, which i read today, and left a bad taste.😕

fantastic analysis and review shraddha

Originally posted by: minnie2308

His character was already evolved enough to make a split second decision to let a hindu woman practice hinduism in a mughal harem? How forward was that! Jo definitely was lagging behind and has now progressed. Why is everyone so sad for Jo's glory?

I'm very proud of the fact that he's so respectful of women's rights and so tolerant of all religions something that even many men today don't seem to possess...

Originally posted by: history_geek

I feel before making such comments on any particular community, high degree of maturity should be displayed. 😊

What they are showing or not, it's for "BOTH" the clans.

But speaking openly and in such a sense, does not convey a correct meaning. 😕

Regarding Rajputs, they were inducted by Akbar in his service HIMSELF, and he spent 1556-1580 almost 24 years in controlling them, when he was in his PRIME..!..And, his could finally settle in 1585-86.

I won't write more. But something on POLITICAL FRONT only.

I feel the CV's are portraying "serial" Akbar with DECENCY on this political front ATLEAST .
Infact, they have shown him fine till now.


As for Rajputs winning the land for Akbar, it was the Rajputs who assisted in the most dangerous campaigns, especially from North-West. . Be it Gujarat, Bengal, Kabul, Lahore, etc. etc. more are there.
Later, many MAIN CRITICAL subahs were under their subedari.
BTW, Rajputs and Akbar relations are well known.
6 generations of Amer clan fought for Mughals, despite Aurangzeb's indifference to an extent.

As for jawai sa,😉 it was Bhagwan Das who saved his life in Battle of Paronkh, risking his own life.
Also, another Rajput Raja also lost his life in this battle as he fell short of supplies, but did not leave his front.

And, later in 1574-75 around it was Man Singh who repeated this act.
In the battle of Gujarat/Sarnaala, it was Bhagwan Das who stood side by side with Akbar in entire battle, and Man Singh who led the forces.


Finally, atleast they were better than following:

Adham Khan
Munim Khan
Shahabuddin
Maham Anga
Mahachuchak Begum
Mirza Hakim
Abul Maali
More are there, don't remember now.😆

Atleast Akbar got loyalty in Rajputs, which he RARELY got in his most close relations.😆
I have more examples, but this was just to highlight some neglected points.😉

I have no issues,😆 but writing all this today, because this was NOT first such type comment, which i read today, and left a bad taste.😕

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The way the serial is progressing is giving everyone headaches it looks like

Originally posted by: prejudiced

The way the serial is progressing is giving everyone headaches it looks like

Time for a chill pill!

Originally posted by: greeshma014

sorry to interfere..i think sara doesn't meant to hurt any community or religion..she just pissed with d potrayel of Akbar in dis show..i think every one here is disappointed with jalal's character potrayel..all his achievements r overshadowed by jodha..i don't knw much abt history..i think I have sum necesary knowledge..and i'm happy with dat😊..i think history changes with a person's mind set..actually people believe what dey want to hear..

Hi,

No. It was not a matter of religion or something like that. Keeping it brief. My reply was from a different angle, and I cleared in the comment that my reply was on political matter only.😊
But, if you read the last para of her writeup, it was a strong one, not portrayal . 😕
There is some other word here.

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So, just replied on that POLITICAL FRONT.

And, regarding, your point in bold. History is constant. 😊 It just happens once.
And, here we were talking on POLITICAL accomplishments. And, that is bound to remain same.
Atleast political accumen is NOT a matter of how one sees it or hears it. 😊 It is the same.
If someone wins a war in history, that would remain same..😊

Regards
Abhay

My generally light-hearted post has definitely taken on a different tangent today...😆

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi,

No. It was not a matter of religion or something like that. Keeping it brief. My reply was from a different angle, and I cleared in the comment that my reply was on political matter only.😊
But, if you read the last para of her writeup, it was a strong one, not portrayal . 😕
There is some other word here.

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they cant satisfy them bec the <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#FF0000">only way to pacify them to show <font color="#990000">Rajput</font></font> win over Mughal</font> through them out from Hindustan ...<font color="#0000ff">n for obvious reason they just cant show this</font>...
<font color="#0000ff">so <font color="#FF0000">to make them happy</font> they are trying hard to <font color="#FF0000">show <font color="#990000">rajputs</font> good from both side</font></font> ...anti Akbar or pro Akbar...

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So, just replied on that POLITICAL FRONT.

And, regarding, your point in bold. History is constant.😊 It just happens once.
And, here we were talking on POLITICAL accomplishments. And, that is bound to remain same.
Atleast political accumen is NOT a matter of how one sees it or hears it. 😊 It is the same.
If someone wins a war in history, that would remain same..😊

Regards
Abhay

I didn't mean it a theoretical way dat history chages..u r right. if someone wins d war it remains d same..we got indipendence n 1947..it's a fact..but hw we got it, it changes with people's mindset..most of dembelieves dat its becoz of our freesdom fighters..few beleives dat it'becoz brtish exploited our all wealth, dey left by their own will..dat's why I said historydoes change with people's mindset sometimes..