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Posted: 11 years ago
Excellent take Mansi 👏👏.. The episode was totally rushed up and the flow was bad .. Why they had to end the trip so suddenly .. I mean they can drag Ben track for a month but end this trip within a week and that too without Jalal-Jodha coming close on physical level

One thing which is bothering me a lot is why CVs r not showing that physical intimacy or passion between Jalal-Jodha .. I know they want to show the divine love and how their hearts r coming close and both starting to bond which is all fine but realistically its high time both as husband and wife starts feeling the passion and sexual tension when they r in close proximity which I thought was missing in the whole trip .. I still had hopes that towards the end of this trip , we might see an accidental hug or a rain sequence with some passionate scenes and stuff but well those hv all gone with the wind now and with both returning back to Agra , I already see Bakshi bano pregnency plus Shariff's release issue will take the center stage once again 😒,..

Ekta has always shown physical intimacy between husband and wife even in hate marriages .. so then whats the problem here ... R the actors not comfortable with it or is it Creatives not creative enough to write such scenes ?? 😕 .. I m sorry to write this but I hv been waiting for like ages to see one passionate hug of Jalal-Jodha even if its by accident .. but we hv got not a single till now even when last week there were ample of opportunities .. so obviously I m beginning to doubt something is fishy for sure .. 🤔 .. we even got Jalal-Ruqaiyya intimacy and forhead kisses but not a single Jalal-Jodha similar scenes /. why ?? 😕

Anyways coming to the episode , I was disappointed that Jalal dint ask Jodha to come inside and sleep and mayb let both ladies sleep inside while he will sleep outside which would hv been gentlemanly 🤔 .. but good thing is he himself was not able to sleep and went outside to look at Jodha with love and admiration which was a nice touch 👍🏼

Next morning trip over was a bit weird but guess CVs wanted to rush up with next Bakshi bano track mayb and now the same old Ruqaiyya-Maham blabberings will start with few Jalal-Jodha lollypop scenes here and there

Overall the episode left me a bit dissatisfied ..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hey Mansi, good analysis... thus far i have watched the episode only once and that too just now ... normally before coming to forum i do watch it at least 3 times at night itself... but yest got home ard 1.00 am after party, and frankly was more interested in completing my sleep coz again i have to go to office in the morning today... so now while having lunch in my cabin, i watched JA on my laptop... and now i m bit free , so here i m back to forum..with my take.

ok, so on friday i had hoped that the sleeping arrangement scene is not yet over... but many felt it was... many ppl in forum had lost their hopes, and now i m sure few will remind me, see haven't we told u , Jalal doesn't care for Jo, and he will go and sleep with Ruku, leaving Jo to take care of her own... and so the truth is how much he says that he loves her , he will never change for her, he is still that selfish, rude Jalal... (i m not saying, but few members will say it... and i m not blaming them)...

Just that my point of view on all this is bit different..and before i write more abt it, i ll ask few questions and then will try to write my views..

1. he says that he loves her, but does he understands what love is?

2. isn't it that he thinks that he can't live without her , but has anybody ever told him that love means caring, trusting and sacrificing for the one whom u say u love?

3. does he know that loving somebody means accepting everything abt that person... good or bad?

4. does he knows, that when u say u love somebody, u should not take that person by just face value but try to understand the true meaning of his/her words?

5. does he know that when u love somebody, u should understand the unspoken feelings of that person, let it be happiness, pain, his/her desire?

6. does he know that loving a person does not necessarily posses him/her, but to set it free so that he/she can only turn back to u forever?

and if Jalal's reply is No to all these question , then where his love for Jodha stands? only that he thinks that if something happens to her , then he won't be able to live , but has he ever thought why? if not, then while we expect Jalal should do all romantic thing for Jo, that he should show his preference to Jo over ruku, then don't we expect much from him to do, that he actually can?

as i said, he may love Jo, or he feels that , but he is yet to understand the MEANING of the word... and so i won't blame him entirely for his behavior that he slept beside Ruku and let Jo be on her own..

first thing, he doesn't understand Jo, forget Jo, he doesn't understand anybody, not even himself... he believes what he sees or he believes only on them whom he can satisfy with materialistic things... he has never came across satisfying the feelings/emotions except his EGO... so now suddenly when he feels something abt Jo, we think he should understand everything abt her and do everything for her... but then one question... has Jo ever given him access to her innermost feelings? was she ever so much open to him, so he can understand her?

we say, she cares for him, but then she does it for everybody else in the world, not exclusively for him... has she tried to break the wall he has created around himself , so that nobody can break him? has Jo ever shown even her liking (not love) to him? has she ever made him feel comfortable or welcome to her? Ruku , who keeps demanding her audha and all but when it comes to him, then isn't Ruku the one who opens her arms for him? Let Jalal just say once that he wants to be with her, who will go with him without a word, Ruku or Jo? then when he is still not sure abt Jo's feelings, should we expect he goes after her when she says she will be outside?

i think we r rushing things, coz we r now desperate to see that love story , we were promised long back...but friends... not going to happen... both of them r learning to love... and coz Jo drank poison , we expect Jalal to forget everybody else, and just care for her, then he will never do it... if we r forgetting when both hated eachother, Jalal has faced the same deathbed in that tiger attack... Jo saved him then, Jalal did it now... so both stand at the same point ...

and abt him being Ruku, then, they r together long before he knew of Jo, and even after his marriage with Jo, Ruku was with him all the time, and will always be there come what may happen..so let's be sure, that he will not hurt Ruku to the core, he might be harsh or rude to her at times, still her place in life will be always the same as it is, even Jo will never be able to replace it ever...

so here i will try to reply ur questions as much i can..

What do I analyse today? I am short of scenes to analyse because not even one scene was worth a big analysis. So here are my ten questions that I can think of at the end of the episode.

1. Why did Jalal say nothing to Ruq? Why did he sleep with her leaving Jodha outside? Even if he thought Jodha wanted to sleep outside herself, shouldn't he have insisted that he would sleep outside but Jodha should be inside since she is the one who almost lost her life after drinking the snake venom and was in recovery even as late as when this trip began? Was it okay for Jalal and Ruq to not care about Jodha's health when they were both the beneficiaries of the snake poison drinking by Jodha? Would it not have been more romantic if Jalal were to have offered to let Jodha have the more comfy bed inside rather than merely stand and stare with longing at the outside-sleeping Jodha? Whose idea of romance is this? And as for Ruq she has returned home with the triumph that she has separated Jalal and Jodha, so what lessons has she learnt at all regarding etiquette and decency? Does Jalal feel good having a best friend with such pathetic manners and ethics? What does tolerance of Ruq's continued bad behaviour say about Jalal?

what u expect he will say to Ruku, when he hadn't heard Jo-Ruku talk? and how can he stop Jo, when Jo has not shown a bit interest in sleeping with him or even beside him? has Jo ever shown any interest in sharing room with him, forget bed? when Ruku is insecure abt Jo (knowing that Jalal loves Jo), will she ever want Jo to be in same room as of her and Jalal? what romance we expect, when Jo is yet unaware of her own feelings towards Jalal and Jalal has no guts to tell his feelings to Jo? why we expect him to defend Jo in front of Ruku, when he is not sure if Jo will approve it or not?

2. At the DEK sabha, I noticed that Jalal did not take Todarmal's name, so I presume Todarmal will not be mentioned openly except to Hamida at some point this week?

i think , first Jo will mention Todarmal to HB while telling abt the trip, and then may be HB will talk to Jalal and let him know the truth...

3. Again at the DEK, Jalal did not mention about these teerth yatra taxes on the Hindus which I thought was more a burning issue than the dakus?

right.. but i think before discussing that issue in DEK , he will talk abt it privately and will ask to interrogate it before discussion... coz this is related to one entire community, and he has to solve this problem without hurting anybody else

4. What will Jodha's answer be to Jalal's question in the precap?

i want her to say she liked the trip more coz it was WITH HIM...😉

5. Are we going to see enough of Jodha and Jalal in the coming week, or is the romantic season over - and only Sharif and Bakshi and Ruq will now dominate the rest of this week?

i think, romantic season is yet to come.. and that will be when all MUs will be cleared... and i feel right now one more MU is abt to come by the end of this week or in next week and now since they r back to agra, we r going to see everybody, with 1/2 AkDha scenes , may be daily...

6. Where is Rahim, the paigam, Shivani-Tejwant and the expose of Maham?

our wait is not yet over, it seems... may be few weeks more..😉

7. What exactly will be the plot of Ruqaiaya against Jodha at the "goad bharai"? Some petty insults at the ceremony amongst the women? Or something more deeplky evil like linking of Sharif and Jodha romantically to give Jalal some hint that Jodha and Sharif were too cozy with each other? Will Jalal only readily believe such concocted stories and thus give room for MU - or will he this time brush off all such stories about Jodha showing that he at least has progressed?

i feel, Ruku will taunt her abt not understanding what a mother can be as she hasn't let Jalal come near to her... i hope Jalal is not involved in it...and now since he knows that Jo is to be MUZ , so he will just ignore Ruku instigating him abt Jo...

8. Since the "goad bharai" is expected to be mostly an all-women's affair, will it be a tug of war with the women taking sides? With Jodha, Salima, Hamida on one side ... and Maham, Ruq on the other side?

it is possible... and it will be ok, just that i don't want Jalal involved anyway in it..and if Jo herself stands for her own self-respect, i will love her more.

9. Is there any hope of this week's remaining episodes having any new twist? Or is it all just going to be Javeeda-Adham kind of fillers with in between one or two lollypop romantic interludes between Jodha and Jalal?

may be if Ruku keeps insulting Jo abt not being close to Jalal and hence no chances of Jo becoming a mother, it may work on Jo as 'mirchi' , and may be she will understand her feelings for Jalal , finally and may be her wish to be a mother will become her top priority.. and anyway, she too knows the prediction abt herself, and it will work as fuel to fire..why not to expect...?

10. I am already at a low ebb today, how am I going to survive the prospect of a dull week? Does anyone have an idea how I can drink some snake venom myself and do some herogiri on the Forum just to keep everybody awake?

keep imagining abt AkDha romance😉😉



so now, i know, Mansi, u r not going to agree any of my point today... still u know when i saw that sleeping arrangement scene , how i felt...

for me Jalal sleeping besides ruku didn't matter (he is doing it for last 8 months , and we r watching him like that).. but later when he came out , and keeps looking at her, his face smiling.. that's the power of Jo, that just thought of her was enough to get him out of comfort of bed and Ruku's arms, and take him to Jo , and only her sight is enough for him to feel the peace and happiness he never felt in his life till date...

so i didn't feel bad after the episode... i m rather interested in her today's reply... want to see if she can tell him her feelings wrapped in words, and if he understands the meaning of it, or she will shy away without reply and change the topic...



Diksha good points... More than JJ love I want JJ to trust & emotionally understand each other... I don't think Jalaal will sideline Ruqu, she always will be his first priority, until she doesn't do BIG blunder...

Their love story just started, GHIRNA was there till 3 to 4 month so confession also takes 3 to 4 months...

I don't think JO would going to confess,still there will be MU, then separation track & later love realization & before love confession Ruqu will get something which will distract JJ love track & they will be more focus on Ruqu feelings...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: deejagi

Abhi, I really can't stand more MU time and again between the only lead couple that to because of mistrust. If Jo completes her SR, then he willnot doubt her and if she don't then he will think she is having that satisfaction elsewhere. What logic. But like any other seriel, even here once she agrees for SR, they may show her SR& pregnancy, babyshower & even delivery in one episode and in the enxt they will,announce her as MUZ and let the souls talk the final days. There ends this epic (should I call epidamic) love story.
How I wish the CVs visit this forum to get enormous Plots to use for better Storyline.

Jalal has to understand love to get a 'warish' ... Hamida told once, SC told this more than once ... now jalal knows he loves Jodha, but does not know what is love, as he had never been in love before and no one ever loved him.
Jodha is very close to the realization of her love. So probably she will accept jalal as her husband. According to history Salim will come after 4/5 yrs. So is it possible that they may get a child, but that won't survive?
I have a feeling that now they both will go through a lot of suffering, heartaches and during these phases they will learn the true meaning of love. The night before the poison drinking, Akbar's soul said,that night was the last night of their loneliness after that, they were never alone ... I think they will consummate and get a baby, but the 'warish' will come after both of them learn the true meaning of love. Let's see.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: abhi786


Diksha good points... More than JJ love I want JJ to trust & emotionally understand each other... I don't think Jalaal will sideline Ruqu, she always will be his first priority, until she doesn't do BIG blunder...

Their love story just started, GHIRNA was there till 3 to 4 month so confession also takes 3 to 4 months...

I don't think JO would going to confess,still there will be MU, then separation track & later love realization & before love confession Ruqu will get something which will distract JJ love track & they will be more focus on Ruqu feelings...



right abhi,

if their love starts without trust, their fallout will come soon, and then their coming back together will take too much time...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



No. 😕

Though the first scene left a bad taste... TOTAL NON-SENSE..!!.

BUT...Why so upset / angry / ghrina. ?
Break it on head of CV's .?. 😃
Why spoil your mood .?. 😊

BTW, I feel that Jodha may tell something later to Salima what happened afterwards that night..?..

Probably both Jo-Ja talked whole night.?. 😉

May be this is the last 'blunder' on Jalal's part.?. 😊

Right Abhay. But kya kare, yesterday's episode left a bad taste on everyone's mouth.🤢 During Jo's story narration session to Salima I want two scenes to be shown - 1) feeding and handwashing scene 2) I want to know clearly what happened that night. After Jo went outside the khema and after Jo opened her eyes to see a smiling JalluConfused
Hope the CVs show a scene where Jo gives her narration to Salima with flashbacks. Or it will turn out to be like the jashn that Jallu announced for the public but was shown nowhere in the following episodes.Angry
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: surjyotapa

Jalal has to understand love to get a 'warish' ... Hamida told once, SC told this more than once ... now jalal knows he loves Jodha, but does not know what is love, as he had never been in love before and no one ever loved him.
Jodha is very close to the realization of her love. So probably she will accept jalal as her husband. According to history Salim will come after 4/5 yrs. So is it possible that they may get a child, but that won't survive?
I have a feeling that now they both will go through a lot of suffering, heartaches and during these phases they will learn the true meaning of love. The night before the poison drinking, Akbar's soul said,that night was the last night of their loneliness after that, they were never alone ... I think they will consummate and get a baby, but the 'warish' will come after both of them learn the true meaning of love. Let's see.

What you say makes sense. But Jo for a fact knows what love is. So if she goes to have a baby with him, then it definitely means she loves him and has accepted him whole-heartedly. Does that mean Jallu takes 4-5 years to realize that his feelings are love and not something else. What kind of love story is this then😕😡 Maybe it is different, because it is an epic one😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
Mansi, Jaya, Ela, Maddy, and all others including myself... Sujamal's entry seems to be on cards this week or next... let's get ready for one more MU btw AkDha...

and this time i m not going to blame Jalal if he suspects her, coz he hasn't met Suja, and Jo should tell him abt her meeting instead of meeting suja secretly... why she should keep it secret, afterall it's her bro.? and not that Jalal has anything against her meeting her bro??
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Mansi, Jaya, Ela, Maddy, and all others including myself... Sujamal's entry seems to be on cards this week or next... let's get ready for one more MU btw AkDha...

and this time i m not going to blame Jalal if he suspects her, coz he hasn't met Suja, and Jo should tell him abt her meeting instead of meeting suja secretly... why she should keep it secret, afterall it's her bro.? and not that Jalal has anything against her meeting her bro??

May I know dear when you have blamed Jalal?...Btw who told you abt Sujamal's entry?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh

May I know dear when you have blamed Jalal?...Btw who told you abt Sujamal's entry?



i have blamed Jalal many times in Ben episodes... rather i have bashed him , even wanted to kill him and get Jo remarry to somebody else..

and abt suja, then read somewhere, and seen his photo too with other cast , i think Maan sing
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Posted: 11 years ago
MANSI. AGREE with your analysis. i was busy some urgent work i read your and SWEET DIKSHA analysis. you both are right.
i just read ELA PAGE TALKED WITH ZTV. they are saying JODHA is mature so she slept outside.
very disappointing ans. ACC to ZTV jodha is mature so she can faces DECOIts.

BUT jalal also surprised us. which kind of LOVE i can't understand. JODHA IS also feeling love for him.

HER RAGVANCI attitude was missing yesterday. ONLY one scene when she said to SALIMA she will meet BAKSHI BANU. maybee she punished,ans was dignity.

TRACK was suddenely finished. THEY both not know the meaning of LOVE.

when JALAL was recalling SALIM CHISTHI WORDS JODHA WILL BECOME MUJ. i can't understand

which husband wife slept DECOITS area outside, her huband thinking these words. THIS DOESNOT SUIT NOT ANY KING OR ANY HUSBAND. RUK IS SILLY. WHY YOU BEHAVING LIKE THIS?

HE DIDNOT TALK TAXES SYSTEM. I AM THINKING THIS IS BIG PROBLEM MAYBEE HE WILL TALK LATER.
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IS JALAL IS EYING ON ADAM THIS TIME?😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕



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