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Posted: 11 years ago
#71
Not Jalal Pallo
I am describing Jodha Devi's reaction if she sees your comparison of her perfect pious pristine self to Menaka.😆
Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#72
Kids, you are both completely behind the times.

What Jodha would say, on learning of such a comparison, would be Kaash ek bar to kehte ki main Menaka se sundar hoon!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: pallavi003



kadachit Jalal aisa dusahas nehi karega, bechara pura akela pad gaya hai ab to aur nahi karega..:-D:-D

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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Kids, you are both completely behind the times.

What Jodha would say, on learning of such a comparison, would be Kaash ek bar to kehte ki main Menaka se sundar hoon!

Shyamala Aunty

hai hai Aunty... kyaa baat hai...
yes the lad does look like Vishwamitra and she a little frustrated Menaka
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Kids, you are both completely behind the times.

What Jodha would say, on learning of such a comparison, would be Kaash ek bar to kehte ki main Menaka se sundar hoon!

Shyamala Aunty

Oh yes! You are right Aunty!😳 We are still speaking of the Jodha before Benazir, poison bowl and tandoori.
Teddy Bear, Vishwamitra...how many more names by the end of the trip.😆
Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Teddy Bear, Vishwamitra...how many more names by the end of the trip.😆

Hey, I like Teddy Bear Vishwamitra 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76
Can someone tell in which episode, Chugtai Khan or someone else, tells Jalal that Sharifuddin is interested in Jodha and that he should make the move of marrying her? Also who was Zaheer whom Maham gives poison and Bairam is blamed?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#77
Beautiful, Sandhya, and the para in blue above all. All that you have described with such eloquence and force was there in Jalal's one look at Jodha as he said that. It is Rajat who keeps the show going at this level. And he seems by now to have been taken over by the spirit of Akbar. It is difficult to spot where the one ends and the other begins.

But he does not say that the Shahi mohar is false. I went back and checked it. He recognises the seal, but he asserts that the firman is false and that the emperor did not issue any such orders. They must have just continued an existing practice and reissued the firman this time in his name, without telling him, during Bairam Khan's tutelage

My comments in bold black.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Aunty

Yesterday's episode had a touch of class as it had flashes of the Ganghor. But today's was just run of the mill. There were two things notable and enjoyable today.
1. What else do Rajvanshi women not allow their husbands to do! My God! Only Jalal can ask such loaded questions. I was laughing so much at it.
2. 'Very few Emperors get the opportunity to be punished due to their laws and methods. Aapne humse woh mauka cheen li'. And the way he looks while saying that. Again advantage Jalal here. Who writes his dialogues? His angst and pain at the practices going on in his country, the cruelty of his soldiers who misuse his name, the fake shaahi mohra and his being ignorant of the whole thing and his people suffering physically and mentally because of it...his taking responsibility of the scenario (as usual) thinking that it is his failure as a king that such practices are prevalent and wishing that he receive a whip or two in repentance...was all clear in that one line and his resolve to set things right was clear in his looks and tone. What a man! He has always been Akbar within!
The man who could be grateful to loyalty, who could forgive the king who saved his father, who could easily say thanks and sorry and be humble even when he is at the helm, who wanted to slay AK who tortured people at Malwa , who takes the full blame even when not wholly responsible and gives credit to others, who is always determined to accept and correct his faults and does his best to his family and his citizens...has always been the mark of Jalal.
Aunty, though the makers are satisfying the heroine-glorification-seekers by their explicit Jodha Devi and patni-kartavya dialogues, it is Jalal's character that is implicitly glorified, intricately and as an undercurrent right from the start of the show. And naturally so...it is he who is Akbar, the great. I agree with this, Jalal is practicing surreptitious undermining of the CVs!
A little more to today's episode,
-I don't like this stuffed teddy bear avatar. I want the shaahi libaas back. Never mind even if it one among the same 8 costumes that he has had from the start of the show. (The shamsheer was visible atleast as an adornment there). 😭
-Why don't they pay the daroga in coins and set out with their entire group. What was the point of leaving the soldiers behind. If they were not needed why take them along in the first place? Surely the emperor wouldn't be travelling bankrupt even in disguise. No, it seems that the sethanis's jewellery was enough only for the 2 of them which looks very strange/
-This dhakka thing is becoming as repetitive as 'Jalal ka sar' and 'Hamare pas dil nahin hai'. They should give it a break.😳 I don't mind it; it is indicative of his state of mind. He is forcing her to give an explanation by pushing it in her face every now and then.
-Project Ruqaiya ruination seems to have begun in full swing!😔 Can Jodha Devi shine only at the expense of Ruqaiya? Well, seeing how she was shaping up, this was inevitable. In any case, I cannot stand her endless screeching, just as I can no longer stand Mahaam . When was the last time Mahaam pulled off a really brilliant siyasati coup?
-Navaratnas to enter one by one? . Or is Todar Mal just mentioned as he was in the Tasneem track. Will we have some real politics along with harem politics and romance please.
-Didn't the teddy bear look like a rishi muni in the precap with his hair, beard and tilak? Oh so angry too ! Like Vishwamitra!😲

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Posted: 11 years ago
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JAIL SCENE -
Kaue ki moonh mein chonch OMG! Was I laughing or what?😆
As it is Jalal couldn't talk properly because of that moonch, he couldn't sit properly because of the padding and now he couldn't smack that guy because his comment made sense! Imagine finishing it all off with a bear hug!
My only question is - wherever these two go, people only going to be talking about Shehenshah and Jodha Begum? Coincidental much? 😆

I loved the scene where Jalal questioned the jailor and everything that followed that!
Jodha was spectacular here - the way she stopped the whip from falling on her husband, removed her jewellery and then her follow-up answer to Jalal too 'I'd promised you I wouldn't utter the truth...but, never that I wouldn't save you!'
'Very few Emperors are fortunate to suffer the punishments of their misdeeds' Jalal tells Jodha - I loved Sandhya's explanations on this one👏!

NIGHT -
When I heard of Jalal caring for his wife and her soojha hua pair, I thought it was a bit overdone... but, when I SAW IT ON SCREEN - it was played out so subtly and naturally - the dark visuals, the forest setting, the lake, their soft dialogues. All of it was a pleasure!😳
Not only that, the firewood scene and the follow-up treatments showed the practical/realistic side of an emperor (reminded me of how Hindu kings-in-the-making used to be sent to the Gurukul to teach them and prep them on these handy necessities) I'm sure Jalal must have received ample such training during his BK days too. 😃

AK-SHAREEF
I'm worried about Adham-Shareef-MA plotting! Gawd, I really don't want Jodha getting trapped into something again...

The Banjaran scene was cute too! All those who've seen Prithvi Raj Chauhan will understand what I'm talking about when I say that this sweet break for the leads reminds me of some scenes from the Koteswar Yatra!
My only gripe in all of it is with Jalal's repetitive 'Auraton ko samajhna' and 'Dhakka' lines. I understand its eating at him - but he's said these lines every day this week... I hope the CVs don't make this another 'ghrina'...I'm positively bored...
I definitely welcomed Jodha's sweet retaliation to his auraton waala line this time😛!

RUQAIYYA
Ruqaiyya's actions and departure made no sense to me whatever - even for a possessed blinded brainless woman! A queen is just going to be roaming around in those long-winding routes searching for a commoner? What if he took a detour? There were no roads or specific routes then...just basic directions... God! Was this even necessary?

I'm thoroughly enjoying the show this week because I know we'll be left yearning for such scenes once the leads are back at Agra...
I'm so impatient to know what the whole precap is about... so, Jalal is residing at Todar Mal's place - his 9 gem-to-be or is he residing at a minister's place he already knows?
Interesting twist embedded with the current story! 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Episode 31. He does not tell Jalal that, he tells Bharmal, when they are returning to Amer after settling the wedding.

What he tells Bharmal is that he had got an indication that Sharifuddin had decidedly dubiious intentions towards Jodha, and that was another reason why he had suggested the marriage with Jalal, as then Sharifuddin would not dare to even raise his eyes to her.

Jalal has as yet no intention of Sharifuddin's obsession with Jodha. If he had, Sharifuddin would have been history.

Zaheer was Jalal's most trusted servitor. When Jalal leaves secretly (for Amer) flouting Bairam Khan's injunction that he should not leave the camp, Zaheer, who was charged by Bairam Khan with the duty of ensuring this, is punished by blinding for not having stopped Jalal. When Jalal learns of this, there is the first falling out between him and Jalal.

Later, when they are all in Agra, Mahaam has Zaheer, who has meanwhile been imprisoned by Bairam Khan for allegedly saying that Jalal was a puppet and Bairam Khan was the real ruler, is poisoned in the prison by Resham. acting on Mahaam's orders. Mahaam later puts the blame for this death on Bairam Khan, by asserting that Zaheer committed suicide due to the ill treatment by Bairam Khan.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: realitybites

Can someone tell in which episode, Chugtai Khan or someone else, tells Jalal that Sharifuddin is interested in Jodha and that he should make the move of marrying her? Also who was Zaheer whom Maham gives poison and Bairam is blamed?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with you, Bobby, it was a very deeply ingrained sentiment even in the generation before mine and here we are in the 16th century. Why even today some traditional Indian women will not permit it, protesting mujhe paap lagega. It is all linked to the pati parameshwar concept.

See, even today, I never touch anyone with my foot, and if it happens inadvertently, I immediately touch him/her and then carry my hand to my eyes. That is to beg forgiveness for having touched the divine in every human being with my foot.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Bobby13

Please don't be angry with Jodha today. She did not behave like touch me not today. She just did not want her husband to touch her foot. It's just Hindu sentiment and not her attitude. She is definitely not behaving like touch me not now a days. Those days are long gone. Poor Jodha really felt bad today when Jalal mentioned Dhakka yet again. I feel Jalal is more hurt because he thinks Jodha called him and then gave dhakka. He is confused whether to believe her or not. That's why he keeps telling it's difficult to understand woman. I don't think he was hurt because of the rejection. He knew that Jodha just wanted to be his friend and was not yet ready to move on and he was OK with that till he got miss-lead by Maham.

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