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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: deejagi

May be they have shown him like this to show how different and easy to live in the palace and eat healthy food without any physical work. They have showed him only 3 or 4 times going out of Agra

1. His first Agra trip to se Jodha stealthily
2. His hunting trip with Ruqu where he saw Jodha saving the deers from Ruqu's arrows
3. His trip to Amer to marry Jodha.
4. His trip to Ajmeir Darghah.
5. His trip to Amer again to attend Sukanya's wedding
In all the above, have he ever strained himself physically except for Tiger attack which landed him to his bed for few days and taming teh Elephant during Sukanya wedding? s now they may start show how the healthy Shehenshah after going through physical activity or Much walking & simple food of common people had lost pounds which had been gained earlier. They will also make him realise how difficult is the life of a commoner who does so much work to ean his livelyhood. I hope te CVs will make him use the threadmill or GYM to tone down few additional pounds, synchronizing with his on screen walking miles & miles to reach his destination (Darghah), to make it look real.😉😆😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
#52
wonderful post! 😊 btw I agree completely with the last part. Rajat does look beefy
and padded in contrast to his amer days. I personally the overall focus should be lean and muscular
as opposed to whatever is going on right now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: autumngal95

wonderful post! 😊 btw I agree completely with the last part. Rajat does look beefy
and padded in contrast to his amer days. I personally the overall focus should be lean and muscular
as opposed to whatever is going on right now.

Yup, if you can please call Zee and give them your feedback on this Jalal weight issue. The Zee number is on my replies on Pages 2, 3, 4 of this thread!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
MIND BLOWING, ANALYSIS, YOU CATCH EVERY POINT, YUMMY YUMMY EPISODE, YUMMY YUMMY ANALYSIS.
THEIR JOURNEY STARTS. EVERYTHING IS NEW. BOTH ARE LOOKING GORGEOUS IN MARWARI
DRESS. THEY SPEAK NEW LANGUAGE. BUT BOTH ARE PERFECT.MADE FOR EACH OTHER.
NEW NAMES WAS SO GOOD SETH OR SETHANI

BOAT SCENE WAS GOOD. JALAL TALKED ABOUT ARROWS. EXPRESSION, EYELOCKS WERE AMAZING.MUSIC & SOUND WAS CUTI -CUTI. JALAL TALKED ABOUT AGAIN PUSHING NIGHT. HE SAID GOD IS ALSO IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND BEGUMAAT

I THINK JODHA SO KEEP QUITE BECAUSE NO PROOF HAS TO CLEAR SHE IS SPEAKING TRUTH
BUT WHY JALAL IS STRECHING AGAIN& AGAIN LETTER ISSUE. SO LETTER MUST BE READ
YESTERDAY EPISODE JALAL RAISE THIS QUES TWO TIMES IT MEANS CV SHOWS SOME NEXT EPISODES LETTER WILL BE READ.

JALAL IS FEELING HAPPY WHEN HE IS WALKING. JODHA SAYS YOU TIRED TAKE SOME REST
(OH,JODHA YOU ARE SO PRETTY LOOKING WHEN YOU ARE SAYING THESE WORDS
JALAL IS WATCHING HER BUTY. HE SURPRISED , HIS EYES ARE SAYING MUCH MORE
WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY. GANGUAR SCENE HE RECALLES. PAYAL SCENE. JODHA IS COVERING HER PAYAL. (BOTH ARE CUTI-PAI)

WHEN JALAL SAYS YOU ARE LOOKING LIKE ANGLE WHEN YOU SLEEP, BUT WHEN YOU WAKE -UP LOOKS (TEEKHI MIRCHI) JALAL WHEN YOU REMARKS JODHA LOOKS AMAZING

JAVEDA AS USEUAL FUNNY. ADAM& SHARRIF NO TREATMENT YOURS.ADAM IS SAYING HE WANTS BAKSHI-BANO.(his eyes were entensioning wrong)

JODHA NOT KNOWS JALAL NOT READ, BECAUSE WHEN JODHA WROTE POEM FOR RUK
CHILD, THEN JALAL CAME FOR HER AND ASKS MEANING OF POEM. HE SAYS HE REMEMBERS POEM BUT HE NOT UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS THE DEEP MEANING BEHIND THE POEM. ACC TO ME JODHA NOT KNOWS JALAL CAN'T READ.

ONE QUES; WHY JALAL IS NOT THINKING PUSHING NIGHT JODHA WAS SPEAKING TRUTH?

EPISODE WAS ; DOING MESMERISED, JALAL & JODHA SCENE WERE SO MARVELLOUS👏 👏

WORDS CAN HOW DEFINE.

AGAIN MANSI, YOU DESCRIBED& BOUND EPISODE SUCH A BEAUTIFULLY WORDS.😊 😊 😊 😊
⭐️ ⭐️😉 😉









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Posted: 11 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

MIND BLOWING, ANALYSIS, YOU CATCH EVERY POINT, YUMMY YUMMY EPISODE, YUMMY YUMMY ANALYSIS.

THEIR JOURNEY STARTS. EVERYTHING IS NEW. BOTH ARE LOOKING GORGEOUS IN MARWARI
DRESS. THEY SPEAK NEW LANGUAGE. BUT BOTH ARE PERFECT.MADE FOR EACH OTHER.
NEW NAMES WAS SO GOOD SETH OR SETHANI

BOAT SCENE WAS GOOD. JALAL TALKED ABOUT ARROWS. EXPRESSION, EYELOCKS WERE AMAZING.MUSIC & SOUND WAS CUTI -CUTI. JALAL TALKED ABOUT AGAIN PUSHING NIGHT. HE SAID GOD IS ALSO IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND BEGUMAAT

I THINK JODHA SO KEEP QUITE BECAUSE NO PROOF HAS TO CLEAR SHE IS SPEAKING TRUTH
BUT WHY JALAL IS STRECHING AGAIN& AGAIN LETTER ISSUE. SO LETTER MUST BE READ
YESTERDAY EPISODE JALAL RAISE THIS QUES TWO TIMES IT MEANS CV SHOWS SOME NEXT EPISODES LETTER WILL BE READ.

JALAL IS FEELING HAPPY WHEN HE IS WALKING. JODHA SAYS YOU TIRED TAKE SOME REST
(OH,JODHA YOU ARE SO PRETTY LOOKING WHEN YOU ARE SAYING THESE WORDS
JALAL IS WATCHING HER BUTY. HE SURPRISED , HIS EYES ARE SAYING MUCH MORE
WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY. GANGUAR SCENE HE RECALLES. PAYAL SCENE. JODHA IS COVERING HER PAYAL. (BOTH ARE CUTI-PAI)

WHEN JALAL SAYS YOU ARE LOOKING LIKE ANGLE WHEN YOU SLEEP, BUT WHEN YOU WAKE -UP LOOKS (TEEKHI MIRCHI) JALAL WHEN YOU REMARKS JODHA LOOKS AMAZING

JAVEDA AS USEUAL FUNNY. ADAM& SHARRIF NO TREATMENT YOURS.ADAM IS SAYING HE WANTS BAKSHI-BANO.(his eyes were entensioning wrong)

JODHA NOT KNOWS JALAL NOT READ, BECAUSE WHEN JODHA WROTE POEM FOR RUK
CHILD, THEN JALAL CAME FOR HER AND ASKS MEANING OF POEM. HE SAYS HE REMEMBERS POEM BUT HE NOT UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS THE DEEP MEANING BEHIND THE POEM. ACC TO ME JODHA NOT KNOWS JALAL CAN'T READ.

ONE QUES; WHY JALAL IS NOT THINKING PUSHING NIGHT JODHA WAS SPEAKING TRUTH?

EPISODE WAS ; DOING MESMERISED, JALAL & JODHA SCENE WERE SO MARVELLOUS👏 👏

WORDS CAN HOW DEFINE.

AGAIN MANSI, YOU DESCRIBED& BOUND EPISODE SUCH A BEAUTIFULLY WORDS.😊 😊 😊 😊
⭐️ ⭐️😉 😉









Thanks Ayushi for your kind words! And the part I have marked in blue, I am in 100% agreement with you. Major letter/dhakka bhandaphod hone wala hai!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56
superb mansi..I have nothing more to add except for a few pointers on the "dhakka" and Ruq-Maham Nexus

there was clear pointer on why Jo was quiet on the Dhakka issue..she chides him for not believing her without proof..this is what this track is leading them to-jodha would be believed without proof at the end of this track..till that she is going maintain her silence on the core isue of the "letter" is my reading...don't know about this going to unfold..so this is going further alienate the Ruqu-Maham duo


Maham's duplicity is slowly getting revealed..firstly Maham's role in Ben Fiasco has come to light..most importantly her role in furthering Ruqqu's agenda of alienating and insulting Jo will come to to haunt Maham at the end of this track..this is the first mark against her..later when Maham's wrongdoing in the "letter" and "Shivani-tejwant"businesses are revealed ,that would be worse for Maham due to the existing black mark against her..


Automatically the distances between Ruqqu-Jallal is going to grow after this issue due to her outward avowal of jealousy towards JO and jalal's reading of this..
Edited by Lizzy2012 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

superb mansi..I have nothing more to add except for a few pointers on the "dhakka" and Ruq-Maham Nexus

there was clear pointer on why Jo was quiet on the Dhakka issue..she chides him for not believing her without proof..this is what this track is leading them to-jodha would be believed without proof at the end of this track..till that she is going maintain her silence on the core isue of the "letter" is my reading...don't know about this going to unfold..so this is going further alienate the Ruqu-Maham duo


Maham's duplicity is slowly getting revealed..firstly Maham's role in Ben Fiasco has come to light..most importantly her role in furthering Ruqqu's agenda of alienating and insulting Jo will come to to haunt Maham at the end of this track..this is the first mark against her..later when Maham's wrongdoing in the "letter" and "Shivani-tejwant"businesses are revealed ,that would be worse for Maham due to the existing black mark against her..


Automatically the distances between Ruqqu-Jallal is going to grow after this issue due to her outward avowal of jealousy towards JO and jalal's reading of this..

Sangeetha, I agree with you that Jodha did not have proof and that's perhaps why she gave an enigmatic smile instead of again and again mentioning her innocence. Also I agree with you that this exposure of the paigam/dhakka issue is going to take some of the hot air out of Maham/Ruq if not all the hot air.
But I sense a big exposure in the works, hence the repeated mention by Jalal of the dhakka issue. Plus he also says "I should not fight with Jodha for there is a lot to talk about with her on this trip".
The sankets are all there of a bhandaphod and reconciliation!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi friends... m back from a hectic meeting... too many words spoken... and i really fear for loss of words now... actually was handling a workshop and so handling ard 80 ppl at a time , talking to them face to face from morning, with just one coffee-break ...

anyway, need to freshen up my mind... and what better way i can get rather thinking abt JA??? so here i m..

ok so journey started... for our AkDha as well as for us... coz we r going to enjoy their being together, fighting with all odds, caring for eachother, standing for eachother and thus finding eachother...this journey of theirs is not just to know the other, but to find the lost self in their own self... while Jodha will know and understand , Jalal more and more , at the same time she will find Begum Jodha of emperor Jalal... and same time while Jalal will get to know his Jodha, he is abt to know the husband of an simple girl in Jodha (not princess or begum) married to emperor.. that's why i said they r about to FIND the lost self of themselves with the help and support of eachother , and thus finally binding them with the strength of love , they both want from other for themselves... (is it very complex and difficult to read/ understand.. sorry, i m yet to come out of my workshop mode, it seems😉)

anyway, read many posts abt the dhakka issue, that's still clouding their relationship... coz Jalal is not able to forget it... not his mistake... but not her mistake too... but still that rejection from her has put him in a position where, he wants to trust her completely still , he can't... reason... he fears another rejection... had it been anybody else who rejected him, he would have punished the person with his/her life... but Jo is somebody he has loved from start... and so though he tortures her , humiliates her, still he is not ready to let go of her from his life... he is not interested in her reply , as why she rejected him , certainly not now when she has shown the extent she can go for him... all he wants her to take him in her arms and console him saying she was wrong, and is sorry for that and she never meant to hurt him but still it just happened , and though she can't reverse it, if he is ready to forgive her , then she wants to move on with him...

i know, many of us (including myself) will not accept this theory, coz we know Jo is not at mistake, but WE know that, not Jalal...for him it was a rejection from his LOVE... Love that has happened for the first time in his life... and it has torn him to the core... as i said, if she tells him even now that she never invited him that night, he won't believe it... he might go back to his shell that is opening up now in front of her... and so she stays quiet, coz just as she said he needs proof every time, and she doesn't have anything to prove right now... but then i m sure, we r going to see this Dhakka issue again and again , when finally he will break up if she stays silent like this and will demand answer... and right now only answer she can give is saying sorry for it (even though she is not at mistake), and give any damn reason (like he was drunk, or she feared he would hurt her), i m sure he will forget that issue right there and will be ready to move on with her...

so many will ask why Jo has to say sorry when she is not at mistake... but when ur relationship is yet to start , or is on a shaky path, one has to go one step back , if other one is not able to step forward... if one keeps going ahead and other one stays circling at one place, the relationship is streched beyond limit and finally broken... and i think Jo is wise enough to understand that, and that's the reason she is keeping quiet... she is not replying anything... neither denying nor apologizing...she is just watching his moods, coz even she is not sure, how his mood will change with one word from her (though she is right)... so she is just taking care that this new found relation , love, trust is not shaken now...

i wish, that letter MU btw them gets burried with this new journey, where they will find eachother... but if , instead of defending herself right now when she has no proof in her hand, she let's this relationship blossom , with just one sorry from her, then she should do it... (i m not against Jo... plz don't bash me for saying this...) ... her one apology, though she is not wrong, can strengthen their relationship, and can buy her his trust, so she should go for it...build a new strong relation with him of trust and love, which won't be shaken by any storm , big or small, and then he too will be her support system , whenever she needs him... but one thing for sure... the first step has to be taken by Jo... coz Jalal fears rejection...

i know she too can fear it, still i think Jo is stronger than Jalal, when it comes to emotional stress... and so, even if she can't clear the MU right now, she can let it bury using whatever method she can, and help him move on with THEIR new life...

and later when and if the MU is cleared , then trust me Jalal will apologize for every thing, every single mistake he has done, every humiliation of her, he will ask for forgiveness for everything... and that will only strengthen their relationship to the point of not breaking ever...

anyway, rest of the episode was cute... the symbolism shown ,and u said in ur post is interesting... Jalal's intensity, his desire for her, her love, is increasing every moment... and just as Chishti Baba said the other night, that he will soon understand the meaning of his name ' Mohammad' (hope spelling is right)... and so this journey is towards that... his finding himself in new light will be understanding the meaning of his name, and who can be his support system and strength , if not Jodha... the transformation of a cruel, ruthless king has started when Jo came in his life, and now this journey with her love and support will surely take him to being a human being, whose future will mark him as " GR8"...

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one thing, if anybody calls Zee or Balaji, plz ask them not to kill our happiness of watching AkDha by showing idiots in Agra pagalkhana...


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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: skanda12

Sangeetha, I agree with you that Jodha did not have proof and that's perhaps why she gave an enigmatic smile instead of again and again mentioning her innocence. Also I agree with you that this exposure of the paigam/dhakka issue is going to take some of the hot air out of Maham/Ruq if not all the hot air.
But I sense a big exposure in the works, hence the repeated mention by Jalal of the dhakka issue. Plus he also says "I should not fight with Jodha for there is a lot to talk about with her on this trip".
The sankets are all there of a bhandaphod and reconciliation!


instead of the major revealation ,why can't it be that -Inspite of this being a major issue for Jalal,he does not ask for proof when jodha would hint at the the content of the letter..that this issue would get resolved with the growth of mutual trust and affection built during the trip..instead of the exposure now,the combo of revealations of :shivani-tejwant"and the "letterr" later ,would remove atleast one vulture from the agra mental asylum and put ruqu on the back foot for her indirect complicity in issue of insulting Jo
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful dear...
how much thought you put into it..My God mansi...how do you do it..🤗
I loved how you said that the entire episode was about two individuals stepping out from known world into an unknown world and merging with a common language/customs etc to discover the common theme 'love'

I also found another parallel between how Jodha stays silent now about the shove night and how Jalal used to stay silent when Jodha used to question him on his intentions/vachans...

He never argued back or spoke for himself despite the many times she suspected him wrongly (he teased, but there was no proper discussion on this per se)
It took the fake pregnancy track for Jodha to realize that Jalal never crossed the line on this issue (or had intentions to do so) and that he kept up his respect and her wish rather than a vachan (which actually didn't exist) That was the turning point for Jodha in this relationship. She never looked back!

Similarly Jodha now stays quiet (she is still semi-guilty about it) but she also knows he's mistaken in this semi-MU between them (primarily caused by MA)
When Jalal will realize that she's been quiet to respect his honour which had come crashing down that day, it'll be a turning point in their relationship for him! As it is, its this final thing that keeps from becoming totally hers...once he discovers the truth there's no looking back for him in this relationship!

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