JA Feb 6th : Jalal takes blame on self, but gives credit to everyone! - Page 5

Meghana, as always a great analysis 😊 I am also thankful to the CVs that Jodha is starting in a more advanced state of affection for the Shehenshah, You see the pride in her face when he talks to the awaam and you realize how much his success as a ruler and person means to her.

Meghana,

What a charming and affectionate take on this unexpectedly pleasant episode!

Now, as for Jodha not being able to make herself at home in Agra but for this sacrifice, most bahus, even today, do not feel really at home in their sasural. A 16th century Rajput princess would have been taught from childhood to adjust and mould herself to the mahaul of her sasural, not the other way around. I do not think any Rajput saas would have given her even a fraction of the love and backing that Hamida Banu does; she is really one of a kind, she loves her bahu more than she loves her son. As for the other haremwaasis, and Mahaam Anga, they are never going to like her anyway.

So it is more to do with Jalal than with the sasural as a whole.But for her sacrifice, Jodha could not have regained the place in his life that she had till the night of The Shove, the loss of which has made her realise what it meant for her. She is now delighted and relieved, and looking forward to better times with him. I do not mean that she realises that she is falling in love with him. It is more that she is desperate for him to respect her and care for her.

So, during the awaam scene, Jodha, though completely drained out, was brimming over with pride in Jalal and her joy at what he was saying.

So also she greedily vacuums up every shred of information about what all Jalal had done when she was so ill. She is so gratified, the poor girl, and she seems not to have expected anything even approaching this. Her voice, as she asks, seeking reassurance, Shahenshah ne hamare liye itna sab kuch kiya? has a note of wonderment in it, and her eyes brim over with tears, Tears of what? Gratitude or gratification?

As for Ruqaiya, I usually try to stand up for her, but last night she was the pits.

How come the writers, who could produce such beautiful scenes in the last 3 episodes, have to muck up her character even more? Even before she starts getting jealous again, her offering to give Jodha anything she wants, except Jalal, as a reward for having saved his life. is both crude and demeaning of Jalal. How can one put a price on the deed of saving his life?

Not only does she harp on her not having become a widow - not on her love for Jalal - but she seems to forget that he is also Jodha's husband.

And not even a passing thought, not to speak of words, about her acute folly in promoting Benazir so relentlessly.

I hope Jodha does not try to appease her in any way, and is polite but firm with her. As it is, I could not understand what Jodha was thanking Ruqiaya for.

Your point about Mahaam looking at Ruqaiya during the awaam speech for any sign of disapproval and drawing a blank shows excellent powers of observation. Mahaam is now on slightly shaky ground thanks to the GJ's parting swipe at her, and she will soon try to get brownie points with Jalal somehow. I actually thought that having collared Zakira, she would locate the antidote, but Jalal preempted her. Now she will have to think of something else, while all the while instigating Ruqaiya.

As for Jalal, I agree with all your comments. His sense of responsibility is matched only by his sense of gratitude for any and every service rendered to him, at times to excess. That is a quality rare in an emperor, for royalty has a highly developed sense of entitlement, and take royals loyalty and even sacrifice as but their due.

While everyone is gaga about the awaam speech, I for one thought that the scene that really showcased Rajat's mastery over facial nuance was the one in Jodha's rooms. He is not one to beat around the bush, and he wants to get the I will never enter this hoojra matter over and done with. But he does not know where to start and how to proceed, so he uses the aarti as an icebreaker. I am surprised that many here have not understood this simple point. He wants a peg on which to hang his retraction of what he had said then, and this is ready at hand. One can see that in his face as soon as he spot the aarti thali.

The bit about the kaada and that it should be covered was also very cute, as was his expression and the tone of voice in which he says Achcha, tab theek hai when Moti informs him that the vaid has said it should be kept open. It was a minor tour de force, the throwaway line masking unsureness. These things are far harder to do than Amitabh Bachchan style grand perorations. Rajat pulled that off to perfection. And in the very last shot, his quizzical expression when Jodha asks him what he wants to talk to her about, was also very interesting.

As for the conversation to come this evening, using inductive logic and working backwards from the new promo (did you see my response to your comment about that on my thread?), it is bound to be pleasant. If not, they would never have had that comfort level with each other as shown in both the promo and the last part of the precap.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Hi Meghana,

Wonderful analysis. for a wonderful episode. It s always a treat to watch Jalal. I also loved Pari's Jodha yesterday..The way she was asking Moti..That was Jalal holding her hand all the time? How innocently she asks that?

Again MA??? When Jo regains consciousness, did you notice MA's expressions.She was in tears..I mean she wasn't happy that Jo came back to life..In fact she must be the most sad person that day..Later on though she faked some happiness. but I feel she wasn,t happy at all. Also when during the speech Jalal was referring Jodha as Humaari Jodha Begum...MA did not like it all. She was fuming... and looked at Rukku for a similar reaction...

And the precap .. terrible..I dread this woman and how can they show Ruks so stupid..even after knowing MA..she still trusts her...that too even after this Ben Fiasco??

I hope that don't start Ruks Jealousy track soon..come on after 2 months of Ben torture... we want some good Akhda Romance ..don't we deserve it..after patiently watching JA in spite of the Ben track... Please CV's don't disappoint us..

Hi Neesha,
Thanks for your comments!😊
PS is getting better at being Jodha everyday, she is superb!
very true, there was so much innocence in question about Jalal holding her hand all the time..
MA will retire after who knows how many episodes. Her role in this serial is to create problems that get JaJo closer. But, agree the Ben track was terrible and I missed few episodes during that time.
The jealousy track might actually turn out to not be that bad..In this case Jalal will know how to handle Ruqu..Hoping its not too melodramatic. Like you I also want JaJo to spend more time before there are any other tracks...

Originally posted by: divyavm

Meghana, as always a great analysis 😊 I am also thankful to the CVs that Jodha is starting in a more advanced state of affection for the Shehenshah, You see the pride in her face when he talks to the awaam and you realize how much his success as a ruler and person means to her.

I don't know if I am making this up in my mind- but I saw this tinge of deep sadness in Jodha's eyes when Ruqs said ask me anything except Jalal. I hope she tries being mahaan and stay away from Jalal, but she fails due to her own heart and Jalal's efforts.

Thanks Divya for you sweet comments!😊
So true, PS expressions were so good during the speech. Her eyes said it all and so did her tears..
I am with you on that eye expression of Jodha when Ruqu declares that Jalal is only hers. That's why I mentioned in my post that Ruqu might have mentioned it purposefully to Jodha. Ruqu may be knows that might be the only way to keep them apart as Jalal might not listen to her. Yes, I want Jodha to end up with this irresistible attraction for Jalal that does not allow her to stay away from him.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Meghana,

What a charming and affectionate take on this unexpectedly pleasant episode!

Now, as for Jodha not being able to make herself at home in Agra but for this sacrifice, most bahus, even today, do not feel really at home in their sasural. A 16th century Rajput princess would have been taught from childhood to adjust and mould herself to the mahaul of her sasural, not the other way around. I do not think any Rajput saas would have given her even a fraction of the love and backing that Hamida Banu does; she is really one of a kind, she loves her bahu more than she loves her son. As for the other haremwaasis, and Mahaam Anga, they are never going to like her anyway.

So it is more to do with Jalal than with the sasural as a whole.But for her sacrifice, Jodha could not have regained the place in his life that she had till the night of The Shove, the loss of which has made her realise what it meant for her. She is now delighted and relieved, and looking forward to better times with him. I do not mean that she realises that she is falling in love with him. It is more that she is desperate for him to respect her and care for her.

So, during the awaam scene, Jodha, though completely drained out, was brimming over with pride in Jalal and her joy at what he was saying.

So also she greedily vacuums up every shred of information about what all Jalal had done when she was so ill. She is so gratified, the poor girl, and she seems not to have expected anything even approaching this. Her voice, as she asks, seeking reassurance, Shahenshah ne hamare liye itna sab kuch kiya? has a note of wonderment in it, and her eyes brim over with tears, Tears of what? Gratitude or gratification?

As for Ruqaiya, I usually try to stand up for her, but last night she was the pits.

How come the writers, who could produce such beautiful scenes in the last 3 episodes, have to muck up her character even more? Even before she starts getting jealous again, her offering to give Jodha anything she wants, except Jalal, as a reward for having saved his life. is both crude and demeaning of Jalal. How can one put a price on the deed of saving his life?

Not only does she harp on her not having become a widow - not on her love for Jalal - but she seems to forget that he is also Jodha's husband.

And not even a passing thought, not to speak of words, about her acute folly in promoting Benazir so relentlessly.

I hope Jodha does not try to appease her in any way, and is polite but firm with her. As it is, I could not understand what Jodha was thanking Ruqiaya for.

Your point about Mahaam looking at Ruqaiya during the awaam speech for any sign of disapproval and drawing a blank shows excellent powers of observation. Mahaam is now on slightly shaky ground thanks to the GJ's parting swipe at her, and she will soon try to get brownie points with Jalal somehow. I actually thought that having collared Zakira, she would locate the antidote, but Jalal preempted her. Now she will have to think of something else, while all the while instigating Ruqaiya.

As for Jalal, I agree with all your comments. His sense of responsibility is matched only by his sense of gratitude for any and every service rendered to him, at times to excess. That is a quality rare in an emperor, for royalty has a highly developed sense of entitlement, and take royals loyalty and even sacrifice as but their due.

While everyone is gaga about the awaam speech, I for one thought that the scene that really showcased Rajat's mastery over facial nuance was the one in Jodha's rooms. He is not one to beat around the bush, and he wants to get the I will never enter this hoojra matter over and done with. But he does not know where to start and how to proceed, so he uses the aarti as an icebreaker. I am surprised that many here have not understood this simple point. He wants a peg on which to hang his retraction of what he had said then, and this is ready at hand. One can see that in his face as soon as he spot the aarti thali.

The bit about the kaada and that it should be covered was also very cute, as was his expression and the tone of voice in which he says Achcha, tab theek hai when Moti informs him that the vaid has said it should be kept open. It was a minor tour de force, the throwaway line masking unsureness. These things are far harder to do than Amitabh Bachchan style grand perorations. Rajat pulled that off to perfection. And in the very last shot, his quizzical expression when Jodha asks him what he wants to talk to her about, was also very interesting.

As for the conversation to come this evening, using inductive logic and working backwards from the new promo (did you see my response to your comment about that on my thread?), it is bound to be pleasant. If not, they would never have had that comfort level with each other as shown in both the promo and the last part of the precap.

Shyamala

Thank you Shyamala for your affectionate comments, missed these on my previous posts. So, I am glad that you had the time to write a detailed comment.

I am with you on the point of girls being asked to train themselves to adjust to in-laws, this happens even now as you pointed out. Jodha has been shown to be different in this regard from the beginning, CVs fault for not getting their facts right. You see as MS had mentioned in Amer to Jalal - Jodha always broke rules and did apne mann ki. Jodha never tried to make Agra her home, she was just pleasant with Hamida and Salima. But, after pregnancy track I felt Jodha wanted to make Agra her home. The change was because she has started caring about Jalal. I felt if not for this sacrifice she would have never had so many peoples on her side as strongly as she does now. After this sacrifice I doubt if Hamida or Salima or Ruqu will question her care for Jalal. Even MA would now be little more careful in playing games with Jalal on Jodha's case.

I am not completely with you ont the gratitude vs. gratification part. I know you feel its only gratification, but to me it felt like both. She was gratified that Jalal gave her so much importance, but there was gratitude also that she is married to a man with principles and values. Those tears were tears of admiration, the joy in being associated to a honorable man. Ofcourse one cannot be sure, but that was my take on Jodha's tears and feelings.

Excellent take on Ruqu, yes her character fell down tremendously and I feel there is more downfall to happen. Till Jalal makes it clear to Ruqu his stand with Jodha, this might continue. As Jodha's importance grows its bound to make Ruqu insecure. So, I feel what they are showing cannot be completely irrelevant. Can any woman give up their spot of special importance in their husband's life? Specially if you have had it for such a long time. The initial smily ruqu was little different, but since the new one came she has always been shown to be the audha tantrum queen. Yep, I am with you on Ruqu is Jalal's problem and hope Jodha stays away from it.

MA was completely defeated in her master plan. I wonder why she did not doom over her colossal loss of kicking Jodha out, may be some happiness of Jalal being alive?

I felt Jo was thanking Ruqu for taking care of Ben, getting rid of her...

I was bowled over by Jalal's qualities yet again, you have put another good point that its so rare to see it in an emperor.

Your command over the language is just superb Shyamala. The way you have described RT's acting skills are just mind blowing, so is your attention to detail. I have not read the response to my comments on both of your last threads. Your thread has grown like crazy and as I did not see your like I assumed you have not responded yet. I will check it out.